Pixel Scroll 11/12 Vampire Elf-eared Zombie Shape-Shifting Warriors Of Gor

(1) An Al Hirschfeld signed lithograph of the Star Trek: The Next Generation crew is for sale by the Baltimore Science Fiction Society.

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This a signed limited edition (127 of 375) print originally owned by science fiction fan legend Marty Gear. The lithograph shows the cast of the Star Trek the Next Generation TV Series and was commissioned by cast member Brent Spiner (Commander Data) with many given to the cast and crew of the show during the show’s original run as gifts…. This hand signed numbered print was dry mounted and framed by Marty Gear in a silver frame with glass and was bequeathed to BSFS in Marty’s will. It is in perfect condition. We are offering this item for $1,495.00 plus tax and shipping.

(2) “(Almost) Every SFF Adaptation Coming to Television and Movie Theaters!” compiled by Natalie Zutter at Tor.com.

Thanks to Game of Thrones and Marvel’s Cinematic Universe, we’ve entered a golden age of sci-fi and fantasy properties being developed for film and television. It seems that nearly every network and studio has snatched up the rights to old and new classics, with a bevy of projects in production or premiering in the coming months. We’ve compiled a master list of every SFF adaptation currently in the works, from American Gods to Y: The Last Man. And surprising no one, prolific writers Neil Gaiman and John Scalzi each have a number of projects in varying stages of development.

(3) The fourth installment of Superversive Blog’s interview with Ruth Johnston, author of Re-modeling the Mind: Personality in Balance, is titled “Culture War Post 4: The War Over Archetypes!”

L. Jagi Lamplighter poses the questions in this series described as “Speculative Fiction meets Jung.”

Q: So the group that is interested in exploring gender roles and seeing them as less restrictive probably loves books like Ancillary Justice or Left Hand of Darkness, which do just that. In fact, it was probably a major factor in Ancillary Justice winning the Hugo in 2014.

A: If there’s one thing the two sides in the Hugo controversy agree on, it’s that the most important thing about Ancillary Justice is not the story itself but the way it used pronouns to obscure gender. Everyone is “she” until the narrator has a reason to identify male or female. It’s explained in the story as just part of the narrator’s native language which, like Chinese and Turkish, doesn’t specify gender in a normal sentence. The narrator, writing in English, is forced to make gender choices in every sentence, so instead just uses “she” for everyone. But I had to read some of the story to understand the thing about language, because when people talk about Ancillary Justice, they elevate the single pronoun to such importance that it’s like the story was really just about obscuring gender. If they liked the story, it’s because at last we’re disrupting mental assumptions that gender will always be visible. If they didn’t like the story, it’s because obscuring gender became more important than whatever was happening.

So that’s a great example of the wider culture battle interfering in science fiction and crowning a winner in what might otherwise just be a dispute about literary taste. Once it’s connected to the wider question of how we, in real life, see men and women, then it’s about life and death, good and evil. It’s like they’re saying, “If you don’t like this story, maybe it’s because you want to suppress the “‘other’.” Those who didn’t like the story respond in defensiveness: “well maybe if you like the story, it’s because you care more about message! You just want to disrupt society.” Now it’s no longer about literary taste, it’s about hurting people or destroying the culture, and things “just got real,” as they say. There are pre-existing political sides to take, and these sides are ready to swing into action even if they don’t care about science fiction or fantasy.

(4) From a website devoted to Joyce Carol Oates — “Into the Void: Lovecraft and the World Fantasy Award”.

Joyce Carol Oates’s short story “Fossil-Figures” from the collection The Corn Maiden and Other Nightmares won a World Fantasy Award in 2011. Her story collection Haunted: Tales of the Grotesque was a finalist for the collection award in 1995. The award itself is a bust of H.P. Lovecraft.

At the link is a Twitter conversation about the news that the Lovecraft statue will no longer be used for the award.

(5) The publisher of Castalia House, Vox Day, would like everyone to know the firm is doing well.

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Two simultaneous #1 bestsellers isn’t bad, especially when you only publish one book each month.

It’s also worth noting that in the Military Strategy category, Castalia House currently publishes five of the top 40 bestsellers.

(6) Kate Paulk, never known for her economy of prose, could have distilled today’s Mad Genius Club post into this sentence:

And yet, when I pointed out that our dear anti-Puppy friends were behaving like the Nazis did, complete with examples and quotes, I was horrible, just absolutely horrible.

(7) But this is a strange field. John Scalzi wrote a post reassuring the original Sad Puppy, Larry Correia, that when it comes to book tour audiences, “Size Matters Not”.

I’ve been actively touring novels since 2007, when Tor put me on tour for The Last Colony. Since that time, across several tours, I’d say my largest tour event had several hundred people at it, and my smallest event had… three. Yes, three. I was at the time a New York Times best selling, award-winning author, and yet three people showed up to a tour event of mine. And they were lovely people! And we had a fine time of it, the three of them and I. But still: Three.

Because sometimes that happens. And it happens to every writer. Ask nearly any writer who has done an event, and they will tell you a tale of at least one of their events populated by crickets and nothing else. Yes, even the best sellers. And here’s the thing about that: Even with the best sellers, it’s an event often in the not-too-recent past. Every time you do an event, you roll the dice. Sometimes you win and get a lot of people showing up. Sometimes you lose and you spend an awkward hour talking to the embarrassed bookstore staff. Either way, you deal with it, and then it’s off to the next one.

Also, tangentially: the dude on Twitter trying to plink one off of Larry because of the size of his event crowd? Kind of a dick. …

And then those seven or eight or forty or however many people will go home feeling valued by Larry, and they’ll keep buying his books and keep recommending them to friends and others. Because that’s the point and that’s how it’s done. The value of doing a book event is not only about who is in the crowd that day. It’s the knock-on effect from there — building relationships with fans and booksellers, and benefiting when they talk you up to friends and customers and so on….

(8) It really must be National Pat Your Puppy Day, because George R.R. Martin claimed to have found a silver lining in the Hugo disaster:

Last time I talked about some possible nominees for Dramatic Presentation, Long Form. This time I want to focus on Dramatic Presentation, Short Form. In other words, best television episode. (No, not officially, but that’s what it usually comes down to, and let’s ignore the silliness of nominating an Easter Egg or an acceptance speech from the previous year’s Hugos).

I was no fan of the efforts of Puppies to game the Hugo Awards last year. I don’t think I have been shy in my opinions on that subject. But I will give the Puppies this much — their efforts did break the decade-long hold that Dr. Who fandom had on the nominations in this category. I have no problem with episodes of DR. WHO being nominated, and indeed winning, mind you… and the Doctor has won plenty of times in this category over the past decade… but when four of the six finalists are from the same category, that strikes me as way unbalanced and, well, greedy. The Doctor’s fans love their show, I know, but there is a LOT of great SF and fantasy on the tube right now. Nominate DR. WHO, by all means… but leave some room for someone else, please.

(9) Even S. T. Joshi got some love today — in Black Gate’s post “New Treasures: The Madness of Cthulhu, Volume Two, edited by S.T. Joshi”.

The reason his stock is still flying high is because Black Gate’s review of Volume 1 is quoted on the back cover…

G. Winston Hyatt wrote:

Lovecraft’s At the Mountains of Madness serves as the inspiration for many of the authors in The Madness of Cthulhu… it’s masterful in concept and at times in execution. A fusion of Antarctic adventure, science fiction, and early-modern horror, it not only offers chilling passages with an escalating sense of dread and isolation, but also constructs a world horrifying in its implications about mankind…

The second volume contains 14 brand new stories inspired by Lovecraft’s At the Mountains of Madness.

(10) As SF Site News explains, “In 2014, SFWA developed an accessibility checklist for its internal events, such as the Nebula Award Weekend or the New York Reception. SFWA has now elected to make the checklist public and available to other events which may desire to have some guidelines.”

“Accessibility Checklist for SFWA Spaces” is now posted at the SFWA Blog.

The SFWA Accessibility Checklist is provided for the use of conventions and other gatherings who want to ensure that their event is fully accessible by all attendees.

The checklist was assembled by Matthew Johnson, Teresa Frohock, Peggy Rae Sapienza, Tanya Washburn, and Bill Thomasson.

(11) RedWombat in a comment on File 770.

Let us go then, me and you,
When the awards are nearly due,
Like shoggoths dissected upon a table;
Let us go, through eldritch winding blogs,
Muttering and wordy slogs,
Of those upset in one-line tweets
And those who pound the well-worn beats:
“PC censorship!”–a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question….
Oh, do not ask, “What the hell is that?”
You behold the bust of Lovecraft.

In the room the fans go fore and aft,
Talking of H. Phillip Lovecraft.

(12) Glenn Fleishman visited Amazon’s new brick-and-mortar bookstore in Seattle to shoot some photos – and in the process caught a labeling error in the sf section where Neil Gaiman’s American Gods is listed as the 2015 Hugo Award winner. (It won in 2002.)

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360 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 11/12 Vampire Elf-eared Zombie Shape-Shifting Warriors Of Gor

  1. 1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Abstain on account of not having seen Howl’s Moving Castle, although I feel bad about that because I have a good friend who loves it.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    I gave some serious thought to Hard Rock Candy Tim Curry, but then I thought, yeah, Tom Cruise… So Kris Kringle and tiny Natalie Wood it is.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    Abstain. Haven’t seen the latter and the former is not my kettle of trouble.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasy film?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    I’ve only read two books total on this list and they’re paired, so…

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton

    Tooth and Claw it is.

  2. Eurgh. Forehead cloths to the fore please

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    The beautiful vs the “merely” good

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    Willow has not only aged poorly, but was fairly average to begin with. PotC 1 was just fabtastic though, esp for someone who *loved* the Monkey Island games.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    Abstain, even though I’ve watched both. Miracle was saccharine meh to me, and the only thing I remember about Legend was the really cool looking devil character.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    My love for Big Trouble knows almost no bounds.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    Isn’t Reign of Fire sci-fi (ie, the dragons had a scifi explanation behind them?) Regardless, Munchausen. For coolness

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    Because why not make me cry again about the Chain of Dogs.

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    HMD would be *perfect* for a movie/ miniseries.

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

    Again, because awesome. Someone suggested Jackie Chan as Master Lim but based on his similar role in Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame, I think Andy Lau would also make a good candidate.

  3. @Jim Henley

    The Shop Around the Corner isn’t in these brackets.

    It would make my top 10, possibly my top 5 (and I definitely look forward to watching it next month), but nothing can displace Miracle in my heart.

    BTW, have you read Connie Willis’ story Miracle? Does a great job on the difference between Miracle on 34th St people and It’s a Wonderful Life people.

  4. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)

    Ow. I’m sacrificing a giant of my childhood (which was largely spent cutting school and watching old movies) for my children’s favorite movie. And David Bowie’s ability to be the coolest person ever, even in a bad wig.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)

    We were poor and I didn’t know the movie was in color until I was in my late teens, but even in black and white Oz was the stuff of nightmares for years. Also, I hate the LotR movies with the fiery passion of a purist who has read the books a hundred or more times, so easy choice.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    Although I too dispute that this is a fantasy movie, because Santa is real, I love every schmaltzy moment of this film.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    OW. Either would be amazing, but I’ll go with Temeraire, because I still remember the excitement with which I awaited book two.

  5. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Ouch – a tough one but I’ll have to say goodbye to Howl

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)
    Despite the logic and Bowie, I’m going with Sinbad.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    What? But you can’t possibly make that choice…OK Oz just because OK.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)
    Abstain – not a fan of either

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    The City of Lost Children (1995)
    Legume

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    A surprise of a movie versus a Gilliam mess. It is a tough choice but I’ll go with the dragons

  6. 1. Pan’s Labyrinth
    2. Abstain
    3. Labyrinth (apparently I really like mazes)
    4. The Lord of the Rings
    5-8. Abstain

    Bonus bracket:

    1-3. Abstain
    4. The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox

    (Again a bracket where I’ve only read one thing, but this time I think it could make some good movies in the right hands.)

  7. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart

  8. @David Goldfarb: Hahaha, you did say “currently” and I overlooked that – yes, we’re both jaded about death in comics. I find myself wondering if someone’s made a list of the characters who’ve died the most in comic book history! A quick search got me nothing useful. ;-(

    @Meredith: You haven’t seen “Reign of Fire”? ! But . . . but . . . dragons! What the heck, Meredith! 😉

    Darn, I wanted to put my votes in a separate post but I can’t post back-to-back. I’ll post them in a few minutes.

  9. 1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart

  10. 1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)
    [Enters brackets to pick up ballots. “Remember, Greg, just don’t EAT anything.” Looks at the ballot table. A PALE MAN is there. He has NO EYES. Table of delicious food.]

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)
    I saw Willow more recently, and I can still remember great moments from Pirates: “Well, ya best start BELIEVIN’ in ghost stories… ’cause yer in one!”

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)
    Despite the terror of David Bowie’s tight pants, still an original film.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)
    How did two of the strongest titles get paired up against each other? Wizard of Oz is one of the foundational classics. Jackson’s epic achievement is astonishing, but not everything in it works.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)
    City of Lost Children has a great Ron Perlman performance (in French!) and a TALKING FRIENDLY BRAIN IN A VAT.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)
    I cannot believe Reign of Fire made it into the brackets and Dark City didn’t…

  11. @Kendall

    Well… I sort of have, to be totally accurate? But I decided I liked the dragons more than any of the actual humans and concluded I probably didn’t want to see the ending where the dragons would probably lose. Also the plot was kind of stupid. And the science. Everything and everyone was kind of stupid. So I’ve seen, like, three quarters of it, and it didn’t seem fair to vote on that basis. Especially since I’d basically be hate-voting against it.

  12. @Meredith: Hahaha, yeah, it’s not a great movie; I voted for it mainly ‘cuz I didn’t care for its competitor. I kinda wish one of these had been against “The Wizard of Oz” and the other had been against “The Lord of the Rings” – then both votes would’ve been so easy!

    In other news, here are my votes. I’m abstaining from various things (haven’t seen both, or only saw part of one and didn’t care for it, or neither grabs me). So I’m inserting protest votes! 😉 For the Bonus Bracket, I haven’t read some, so I abstained from a few. And then I decided to turn them into protest votes, muhahaha. . . .

    FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. PROTEST VOTE: “Were the World Mine”

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    OMG how could you, I mean, how could the dice you borrowed from Kyra! Give them back – they’re tainted, evil things! This is a tough call.

    5. PROTEST VOTE: “Practical Magic”

    6. PROTEST VOTE: “Harry Potter” series

    7. PROTEST VOTE: “Coraline”

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)

    Not that “Reign of Fire” was great, but I didn’t like “Münchausen.” Methinks Snowcrash is right about “Reign of Fire” technically being SF, but pretty much the only SFnal part was the dragon explanation + “our future,” so I’m still thinking it’s really just fantasy.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    Oh, yes, this would be surreally good.

    2. PROTEST VOTE: Jim Henley just mentioned Amber; is it coming up? I’ll protest vote it here, just in case: Zelazny’s first Amber series!

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    LOL, I’m pretty sure I heard Meredith’s head explode! I haven’t read either (blush), but I’m voting anyway based on what I believe (from what I know) would make a better movie – well, series of movies. 😀

    4. PROTEST VOTE: “All the books”! 😉

  13. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    Listen, will you just take those dice and STOMP them?
    Really

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    Stomp them into little tiny pieces.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    Meh

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

  14. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    Never saw Howls but Pan’s Labyrinth is a beautiful, tragic, wonderful classic.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    Tie I can’t decide between them, don’t have huge feels for either, so tie.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    This is CRUELLLLLL! Mean dice, no cookie.
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    Gah, I can’t choose between a marvelous childhood icon and, no matter the flaws, that worldwide juggernaut by Jackson.
    Tie

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    I never saw Beetlejuice and don’t feel strongly enough about Jason.
    Abstain

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    Never saw either film.
    Abstain

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    Abstain

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    Abstain

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

  15. 3. Golden Voyage Of Sinbad

    4 LOTR
    Because I have read it, I mean watched it so many times. I will never tell my niece I voted against Wizard Of Oz

    5. Beetljuice
    Because I watched it so often with my daughter

    7. Big Trouble In Little China
    Because I watched it so often with my son

  16. Very good round one, now onto the next challenge. Sorry to see Man of Gold fall to Good Omens but it’s a worthy movie choice.

    FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. Howls Moving Castle (2004)
    I have not see Pan’s Labrynth but I love the Moving Castle. I vote sight unseen.

    2. Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    This was surprisingly good. Undead pirates for the win

    3. Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)
    Sinbad and stop motion animation. This captured me as a child. Also Tom Baker and Kali. A classic film.

    4. Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)
    In spite of Jackson’s excesses, this was a dream come true.

    5. Beetlejuice (1988)
    Tim Burton ! Micheal Keaton.

    6. Legend (1985)
    Legend over a holiday movie.

    7. Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    It’s all in the reflexes.

    8. The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)
    Absurd and fun.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Ohh tough. Deadhouse gates because it would be more interesting visually.

    2 Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson
    This would be a great movie with a good market for it right now – Vikings, Bastard Executioner…

    3. Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    I don’t want Master and Commander with dragons

    4. The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    This is the one I have read from the bracket. It’s a very good and funny book.

  17. 1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    Abstain, don’t know any

  18. In the year 8214, I’ve finished Ancillary Mercy and enjoyed it very much. I feel like my pre-nomination novel reading is going better than other categories. (sigh)

    FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik
    ARGH!!!!!

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

  19. 1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY – no vote
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS – no vote
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS – no vote
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

  20. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    A wonderful example of how a film needn’t be at all true to the original book to be a great film and a great book.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    PotC benefits from not being run as a complete series.

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    Meh. Sinbad, I guess.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    Ouch. Tie.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    Meh. Abstain.

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    Just squeaks in on fantasy, and only because Santa is real.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    Abstain.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    Wacky and memorable.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    I would like to note that the choice between these two is only on the basis of which would make a better movie, not which is a better story. But the thought of an extended series of Napoleonic dragon warfare films is what the silver screen was made for.

  21. Meredith on November 15, 2015 at 10:56 am said:

    @Kendall

    Well… I sort of have, to be totally accurate? But I decided I liked the dragons more than any of the actual humans and concluded I probably didn’t want to see the ending where the dragons would probably lose. Also the plot was kind of stupid. And the science. Everything and everyone was kind of stupid. So I’ve seen, like, three quarters of it, and it didn’t seem fair to vote on that basis. Especially since I’d basically be hate-voting against it.

    Yeah but the expression on the little kids’ faces when Bale & Butler are acting out The Empire Strikes Back – priceless. There is one tiny kid at the front who deserved an Oscar.

  22. I would like to note that the choice between these two is only on the basis of which would make a better movie, not which is a better story. But the thought of an extended series of Napoleonic dragon warfare films is what the silver screen was made for.

    I agree with this analysis.

    Though I voted for Tooth and Claw because the Temeraire series has been optioned by Peter Jackson. Really no guarantee it will actually be filmed, especially after all this time, but it’s a mite closer than Tooth and Claw.

  23. 1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    Lesser Miyazaki vs. major del Toro. Del Toro takes it.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    A vote against Willow, which basically sucked.

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    Jackson’s adaptations had their problems, but it’s still Middle Earth versus Oz.

    The Witch King may not have died of it, by the by, but that flood on the Baranduin did at least cause him serious inconvenience.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    Gotta give one to Harryhausen.

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    Never actually seen either of these. Abstain.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    Not quite Gilliam’s best (for my money, that’s Time Bandits) but good enough to win this matchup.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    Malazan is on my “someday” list. The Zelazny is terrific, though.

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    Sorry, Jo. I love Tooth and Claw but I think the Novik is better suited to the screen.

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

  24. @ULTRAGOTHA

    Mind you, after Jackson’s Hobbit films a fan of the books might almost hope (pray, beg, bribe nearest deity) that the option expires to get bought by someone else.

  25. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Beetlejuice (1988)
    (this was the toughest decision so far)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

  26. Jim Henley on November 15, 2015 at 8:45 am said:
    @Lyle:

    The best Christmas movie ever made

    The Shop Around the Corner isn’t in these brackets.

    Die Hard is clearly the best Christmas movie

  27. 1. Howl’s Moving Castle\
    2. Wilow
    3. Labyrinth
    4. Lord of the Rings
    5. abstain
    6. Miracle on 34th Street
    7. Big Trouble in Little China
    8. Reign of Fire

    Bonus bracket:
    1. abstain
    2. Pegasus
    3. His Majesty’s Dragon
    4. Graceling

  28. 1. Abstain

    2. Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    3. Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    4. Wizard of Oz (1939)

    5. Jason and The Argonauts (1963)

    6. Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)

    8. The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart

  29. 8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart

  30. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Frozen

    I’m backing the Frozen lobby. Especially since PL drive me to drink, and Howl’s was the first Miyazaki I didn’t like.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    PotC was a miracle- they turned a ride into one of the best pirate movies ever.

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    This is so interesting because this is one of the few fantasy movies that was a girl’s narrative.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    LotR is still an incredibly strong movie. Willow…is an 80s fantasy movie.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Nightmare Before Christmas

    BEST CHRISTMAS MOVIE

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    Hard choice, but CiLC is such a bizarre, original film.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    No contest.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Seven Princes in Amber

    As long as we’re doing shadows.

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    Best D&D game ever.

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Dragonsong

    Cause it’s an excellent fantasy duology.

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

    I’ll go for Chinese Mythical Leverage.

  31. Lorcan Nagle on November 15, 2015 at 5:57 pm said:

    Die Hard is clearly the best Christmas movie

    I’ve noticed that Die Hard is often named as the best Christmas movie by people who don’t like Christmas movies.

  32. Was at Windycon. Just got back. Hope I’m not too late….

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    Ack. Pan’s Labyrinth was brilliant, and I never ever ever want to see it again. I’ll watch Howl’s Moving Castle again and again. I’ll vote for the brain-space I want to live in.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)
    Willow (1988)

    Willow was fun but flawed. The rest of the Pirates movies were a waste of time, but the first one was excellent.

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)

    Labyrinth. Henson over Harryhausen.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939)
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    Um. Um. Damn. Forehead cloth….

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    Beetlejuice-Beetlejuice-Beetlejuice!

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985)
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    Abstain; didn’t see Legend.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986)
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    Abstain; didn’t see City of Lost Children

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002)
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    Abstain; didn’t see Reign of Fire

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    Zelazny. (Should I read Erikson? I haven’t.)

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    Ouch ouch ouch. McKinley.

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    Walton. Although Novik would probably be more cinematic, so I’m sympathetic to that vote.

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore

    Hughart. (Should I read Cashore?)

  33. Some really tough matchups in this section!

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006). I love both, and hated to pick one, but while Howl was a great film, it was a less-than-perfect adaption of the source material, so I let that be the deciding factor.

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003). The women in my life would never forgive me if I chose otherwise.

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986). The women in my life would never forgive me if I chose otherwise. 🙂

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003). Yeah, Oz is a classic and all, but I find it a bit annoying.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986). Another tough call, but this is one I rewatch more often.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988). I think this is a seriously underrated film.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT
    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny. Not his best work, but I’m a total sucker for Zelazny.

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik. I almost said tie, but on second thought, I’m not sure Tooth & Claw would make the transition to film quite as well.

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart. Ideally a big-budget Korean production, for maximum confusion. 🙂

  34. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Howls Moving Castle (2004)

    No Flash in the Pan’s for me!

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003)

    I loved Madmartigan and Sorsha, once upon a time; the movie’s not too bad, but it’s dated for sure and shows a bit of that leaden Lucas touch. The first Pirates has a similar “fun adventure” feel, but I guess it’s more modern. Plus Depp was just brilliant (before he collapsed under his own eccentricities in the sequels).

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)

    David Bowie auditioning for a spot in Spinal Tap. Excellent kids movie nonetheless.

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    Wow. A brutal matchup. Although it got a bit worse with each new movie, I’m going with LotR.

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Jason and The Argonauts (1963)

    Beetlejuice is fun, but Harryhausen is great and JatA was a real Sunday afternoon
    thrill.

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    I thought Legend just didn’t work, so I’ll give the saccharine the vote.

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Little China (1986)

    A real gem.

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    RoF ain’t fantasy in my eyes, and Münchausen is a great romp anyway.

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Well, I can voice some opinion this time.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    Abstain

    PS: Can we get these brackets up on the “Honeycomb Hideout” page a bit faster, he asked politely?

  35. @bloodstone75

    I’ve been saving the links as it goes along but I wasn’t planning on sending them to OGH until the bracket finished. Are the reminders in the Scroll comment threads not catching you well enough?

  36. I’m impressed with the love Jack of Shadows is getting for the Bonus Bracket. I haven’t read Malazan, but it looks like epic fantasy that would work well for movie-series or TV mini-series or even ongoing TV show. I haven’t read Jack of Shadows in a long time; I feel like maybe I should re-read it now. 😉 Especially having voted for it on the strength of somewhat vague memories. (blush)

  37. @Meredith:

    On the weekends when I am not arranging my wife’s birthday get-togethers, I have an easier time keeping (mostly) current; tonight I had to do some digging to find it.

    If the brackets page is meant to be a retrospective voting record, then I suppose it’s fine; but if it could also be a quick link to the latest ongoing round, that would be great, too. 🙂

  38. @bloodstone75

    I’m not really sure of the intent; it was only created at the end of the last bracket so it hasn’t been anything except retrospective.

    You should (if I’ve been paying attention – or, depending on timing, Hampus always links right after he posts the heat) find a comment pointing to the latest heat of the bracket on the most recent comment page of the most recent Scroll, so look for that first, maybe? It takes less digging. Otherwise, Hampus seems to be posting on consecutive Scroll’s – last heat was on the 11/11 post so the next one will likely be on 11/13 and so on.

    Happy Birthday to your wife!

  39. Lyle on November 15, 2015 at 6:41 pm said:

    “I’ve noticed that Die Hard is often named as the best Christmas movie by people who don’t like Christmas movies.”

    I don’t care for most Christmas movies but my favorite is Stalog 17

  40. 1. Howl’s Moving Castle. Wynne-Jones AND Miyazaki!
    2. Willow
    3. Labyrinth
    4. LOTR
    5. Jason & Argonauts
    6. Miracle on 34th St.
    7. Big Trouble in Little China
    8. Reign of Fire, for the craziness
    ——-
    1. Jack of Shadows
    2. Three Hearts and Three Lions
    3. His Majesty’s Dragon
    4. Master Li & #10 Ox

  41. 3. Labyrinth
    7. Big Trouble in Little China

    Also, I don’t care if it’s hokey, Krull.
    And I thought Night at the Museum was absolutely fantastic.

  42. Meredith:

    “Otherwise, Hampus seems to be posting on consecutive Scroll’s – last heat was on the 11/11 post so the next one will likely be on 11/13 and so on.”

    Exactly so. I will move forward one day at a time to make the brackets easier to find. Also always linking to next heat after presenting the winners of the previous.

  43. @Hampus

    It makes it easier on link collecting, too, so I definitely appreciate the thought. 🙂

  44. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006)

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Willow (1988)

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986)

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003)

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS
    Beetlejuice (1988)

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    The City of Lost Children (1995)

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988)

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    Which one would make the better fantasyfilm?
    Special rules: Vote even if haven’t read both contestants. Winner with fewer votes than two will be removed from bracket.

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Pass

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pass

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Pass

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS
    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart

  45. FANTASY MOVIE BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR DEPTHS
    Pans Labyrinth (2006) – 18 votes
    Howls Moving Castle (2004) – 15 votes

    An incredible duel, but however the castle moved, it couldn’t get through the maze. Sometimes in a tie with the faun, sometimes one or two steps behind, but never in the lead. The Castle has stopped moving and the faun is secure in his labyrinth.

    WINNER: Pans Labyrinth

    2. TRICKSTER VS TRICKSTER
    Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl (2003) – 27 votes
    Willow (1988) – 13 votes

    For an hour or two, it seemed possible that Willow might have a chance, but then came stronger winds and the Nelwyn is left behind. “Peck, peck, peck”, screams Mad Martigan in frustration.

    WINNER: Pirates of the Carribean – The Black Pearl

    3. ADVENTUROUS TRAVELS
    Labyrinth (1986) – 29 votes
    Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973) – 12 votes

    Labyrinth is a favourite for the filers, and if Harryhausen has his strong supporters, they could never match the following of the Goblin King. Also, David Bowies pants. Sinbad is lost at sea.

    WINNER: Labyrinth

    4. TOO BAD THE WITCH KING IS NOT AFRAID OF WATER
    Wizard of Oz (1939) – 13 votes
    Lord of The Rings – Series (2001 – 2003) – 28 votes

    For a time Wizard of Oz was in the lead, but is it even possible to compete against the Lord of The Rings juggernaut? The lion has lost his bravery again, the witch has melted and the wizard can’t hide for ever behind a screen.

    WINNER: Lord of The Rings – Series

    5. HEROES AND ANIMATIONS

    Jason and The Argonauts (1963) – 18 votes
    Beetlejuice (1988) – 17 votes

    This one had me biting my nails with never more than one or two votes difference between the two. In the end, the argonauts rallied after the defeat of Sinbad. Beetlejuice is exorcised to the afterlife, waiting for a new remake.

    WINNER: Jason and The Argonauts

    6. THE NICE AND THE NAUGHTY
    Legend (1985) – 12 votes
    Miracle on 34th Street (1947) – 20 votes

    He may be fat, he may be sweet and he’s even nicer than rotting meat. The Lord of Darkness got a lump of coal this year as Santa put him on the naughty list.

    WINNER: Miracle on 34th Street

    7. LOST IN THE CITY
    Big Trouble in Litte China (1986) – 23 votes
    The City of Lost Children (1995) – 12 votes

    It could have been close, but then Jack Burton drank a potion that made him feel “kind of invincible” and after that, it was just on the reflexes. The children remains lost and One drowns his sorrows in a bar.

    WINNER: Big Trouble in Litte China

    8. VULCAN OR DRAGONS – WHO BRINGS THE MOST HEAT?
    Reign of Fire (2002) – 7 votes
    The Adventures of Baron Münchausen (1988) – 29 votes

    The heat from Vulcans smithy is too much for even a dragon. The Baron rides away victoriously on his half horse while the dragons find their fires extinguished.

    WINNER: The Adventures of Baron Münchausen

    BONUS BRACKET – SECOND HEAT

    1. SHADOWS AND GRIT
    Deadhouse Gates, Steven Erikson – 6 votes
    Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny – 17 votes

    This one was no contest for the filers. The winner was decided in the early hours of the bracket.

    WINNER: Jack of Shadows, Roger Zelazny

    2. THREATENED NATIONS
    Pegasus, Robin McKinley – 7 votes
    Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson – 17 votes

    Again, there never was a contest.

    WINNER: Three Hearts and Three Lions, Poul Anderson

    3. DRAGONS! EVEN MORE DRAGONS! DRAGONS EVERYWHERE!!
    Tooth and Claw, Jo Walton – 7 votes
    His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik – 24 votes

    For the first hours, there seemed to be a contest here, but after that, Temeraire won vote after vote in one of the larger victories here.

    WINNER: His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik

    4. EVEN MORE TRAVELS

    And again, never really any contest. It seems the filers know what they like and are not afraid to say it.

    The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart – 21 votes
    Graceling, Kristin Cashore – 8 votes

    WINNER: The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox, Barry Hughart

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