Foz Meadows on Other Prospective Apologies

Foz Meadows, who readily accepted Lou Antonelli’s apology for claiming Camestros Felapton is a pseudonym for Foz Meadows’ husband, Toby, said today she has a different policy and expectation for any apologies and retractions that might come from Dave Freer and others who ran with the story because of all the abuse they packaged with it.

32 thoughts on “Foz Meadows on Other Prospective Apologies

  1. I won’t be holding my breath waiting for Freer or Torgesen to display an ounce of decency.

  2. Me neither. They’ll stop talking about it soon (we all hope) and down the line they’ll probably deny any of this happened. And continue to deny there’s any connection between Sad/Rabid — yet post crap like this that proves they’re fellow travelers.

    Freer will NEVER admit he was wrong, and never hint at anything vaguely apology-shaped. He got what he wanted — upsetting Foz — so his uneducated homophobic ass will keep doubling down on it.

    (And homophobic is the right word. He hates LGBTQ people, but so intensely and irrationally that it must be coming from fear.)

  3. “I won’t subject anyone here to quotes from the salient comment thread on VD’s blog”

    I took a look at the VD post and comments Ms. Meadows references… and, yep, I can see why she chose not to link to it. Very ugly and bigoted—gosh, contain your shocked surprise.

    And, as always, you could search high and low, far and wide, without finding people stupider than VD and his blog followers. The absence of intelligent life there seems almost scientifically astounding.

  4. I expect nothing useful out of either Freer or Torgersen. I’m glad Foz Meadows pointed out the identity issue being separate. And IMHO so much smokescreen/stupidity.

    Very reasonable series of tweets from Meadows. That reminds me, time to read the sample of her book.

  5. I am not going near Beale’s blog. I fully agree and understand why she was willing to accept Antonelli’s apology as it was, but is looking for something more than a mouthed apology from Freer and company. The utter homophobia in those posts and in the comments are repulsive.

    (funny I got told I was posting comments too quickly. Oops.)

  6. I won’t go anywhere near the day blog, even with anonymizing and a strong vpn. Just the comments on the angry highIQ blog make we want to scrub with bleach. It’s hard to understand where the hate is coming from. df sure is wedded to his theory and absolutely refuses to budge one iota from his self-justification.

    Sad.

  7. Wait, what did Hines do to annoy Freer this time? Was it just the summary of L’Affaire Arroz, or was there something else? I (possibly naively) wouldn’t have thought F would take that blogpost so personally.

  8. I’m 150 pages into Tyranny of Queens and really enjoying it, despite struggling to remember all the characters and worldbuilding from Accident of Stars (it’s nominations season, no time to reread!). Either it leaves behind the aspects of Accident that I found frustrating (which were mainly based on the main character’s development), or I’ve developed as a reader since mid 2016 and don’t find those things frustrating any more. Whatever the explanation, I’m very happy with the result!

  9. This is probably beside the point, but why does someone (or more than one?) on MGC refer to Mike Glyer as “China Mike?”

    Is this more of the effervescently witty name-calling that crowd enjoys (ex. CHORFhole, Hinesy, Fieldsy, GHHs, blah blah blah)?

  10. Good for her to not offer Freer an olive branch. He’s so openly displayed his disgusting nature that he doesn’t deserve any way out. Next time one of his fans loudly bangs on about how mean libertarian writers are treated, bury their noses in this hate.

  11. Laura Resnick, their name-calling, besides being a called name, must also signal an accusation of a specific fancied crime, which the hurler’s friends are familiar with and generally committed to believing in loudly. This is the explanation of every mysterious left-field nickname they throw.

    From a reference I saw here, I boldly conjecture that the nickname refers to a darkly hinted and imagined Man-From-U.N.C.L.E. plot about bots, and leave it at that.

  12. @Laura Resnick:

    It’s “witty” namecalling alluding to File770 getting fake traffic from China, along with all of us fake Chinese comment bots.

    (Because some people don’t like it when File770 ranks higher than their website. It’s all a piece with the idea that if ‘they’ are doing better than ‘I’ am it’s not through talent & hard work, it’s because ‘they’ are cheating. Seems to be a common thoughtline with some people.)

    ETA: Help! This comment is trapped in moderation.

  13. I maintain that given his usual word-salad style, it seems unlikely anybody’d be able to even parse a Freer apology, in the even more unlikely event he’d admit to being wrong.

  14. This is probably beside the point, but why does someone (or more than one?) on MGC refer to Mike Glyer as “China Mike?”

    Larry Correia snarked once that the traffic from File 770 all comes from China, based on an Alexa traffic page for this site. There was a weird data hiccup on Alexa one day claiming 92% of the traffic here came from that country. It was obviously anomalous — a check today shows 82% of this site’s visitors come from the U.S.

    I could explain more, but that would require reacquainting myself with one of Correia’s most childish, mean-spirited and tediously long personal attacks. It was unpleasant enough the first time.

  15. I had hoped for a more entertaining answer, preferably a sneak peek into Mike’s past as a militant Marxist (which subject they’re always yammering about at MGC).

  16. rcade: There was a weird data hiccup on Alexa one day claiming 92% of the traffic here came from [China].

    As it turned out, the anomalous Alexa results were the result of JDA siccing 4chan to do a DDOS attack on File 770. (screenshot here)

     
    rcade: a check today shows 82% of this site’s visitors come from the U.S.

    It says 84.1% when I just checked it, so it’s strangely variable.

    Not quite as high a U.S. percentage as this site, but File 770 has a great many non-U.S., non-MAGA commenters, and a U.S. ranking which is 32% higher.

  17. The real problem is not why that stat exists, it is that I was too ignorant to understand what it meant before I ran with the Alexa comparison. But in social media wars, the “I’m not crooked, I’m stupid” defense really doesn’t make anything better.

    So I’m prepared to take my medicine, just like Vox has to live with those two fifth chapters.

  18. Laura Resnick said “. . . Mike’s past as a militant Marxist (which subject they’re always yammering about at MGC).”
    I noticed that what’s-her-name there is moving past Marxists into Maoists.
    One of her recent posts said something about mass graves in Portugal from the Summer of Mao. When I couldn’t Google anything about either one, I thought about asking. Then realized what I was considering and smacked myself in the head for being foolish.
    I’m still baffled at their insistence that they’re winning the book war with their e-books and that the big 5 or whatever are going to fold any day and that they told you so all along and ‘I’ve got three books ready to come out and five more lined up and ideas for eleventy-twenty more and so there.” Fabulous–you’ve won a war that the “other side” wasn’t even aware you were fighting. Bless your hearts.
    They do seem to be the poster children for success not making you happy.

  19. When I couldn’t Google anything about either one, I thought about asking. Then realized what I was considering and smacked myself in the head for being foolish.

    Another lapse like that, and we may have to sedate you.

  20. Harold Osler: One of her recent posts said something about mass graves in Portugal from the Summer of Mao. When I couldn’t Google anything about either one, I thought about asking.

    She’s referring to when Portugal finally came under a constitutional government, and the “mass graves” are those of the ambitions and entitlements held by the members of the previous repressive authoitarian government, of which her family had apparently been a beneficiary.

  21. My guess is that Torgersen will go quiet and Freer will double down with gibberish and word-salad.

  22. Ohhh, I know who that is without looking. Someone lamenting how the people of Portugal were no longer under the firm hand of those who knew how to lead them and were able to *shudder* make decisions for themselves?

  23. My guess is that Torgersen will go quiet and Freer will double down with gibberish and word-salad.

    Well, I see on MGC that that Brad Torgersen has posted a new blog entry. He does not acknowledge that his previous blog entry, claiming that Camestros Felapton is Toby Meadows, was erroneous, let alone apologize for it. Has he apologized somewhere else perchance?

  24. Laura Resnick: I see on MGC

    Wow, their blog interface is really poor, isn’t it? You look at the front page and you can’t even tell who wrote any of the posts. Seems like a pretty dim way for authors to try to promote themselves.

  25. Wow, their blog interface is really poor, isn’t it? You look at the front page and you can’t even tell who wrote any of the posts. Seems like a pretty dim way for authors to try to promote themselves.

    ROFL!

    Seriously, this cracked me up.

    I mean… where does one even start, when it comes to the choices that clique has made in terms of how to promote themselves as writers? Probably, a poor blog interface is waaaay down that list….

  26. Laura Resnick: where does one even start, when it comes to the choices that clique has made in terms of how to promote themselves as writers? Probably, a poor blog interface is waaaay down that list…

    Fair point. 😀

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