MidAmeriCon II Addresses Chaotic Hugo E-mail Issue

MidAmeriCon II has released a “Hugo Nomination Update & Apology” message on Twitter and Facebook acknowledging the problems with voting update emails generated by its automated system.


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16 thoughts on “MidAmeriCon II Addresses Chaotic Hugo E-mail Issue

  1. FYI, Filers, I was told I may never get an e-mail – but that my votes are intact (I’m not convinced they checked, BUT I do believe they were recorded). Anyway, I’m very glad to hear they’ve identified the issue and taken steps to prevent it from happening! The last will help prevent mass confusion in the future. 🙂 So, thanks, MAC II.

  2. I got my actual final ballot notifications today (and they look right, as far as my memory goes), having received a few yesterday and then none all the way back to the 22nd. So they were still trickling out as of this afternoon.

  3. FYI, Filers, I was told I may never get an e-mail – but that my votes are intact (I’m not convinced they checked, BUT I do believe they were recorded).

    I’m glad I’m not the only one. I never got any emails, so I seriously doubt I ever will, and I harbor a suspicion that nobody checked. But I think the odds are good my ballot got to them. I just think there was some snafu between their confirmation email server and mine.

    If I vote for the awards themselves (as opposed to nominating) I think I will use a different email addy.

  4. I just got the rest of my ballot emails tonight in one lump, including my final one. Yay!

  5. I have to buy a vote-on-site-selection membership. Anyone know when that opens?

  6. I had an email last week and a couple of emails yesterday, but so far, none have shown my completed ballot. I guess that I’ll just have to hope they’re right about all the votes being counted despite the emails.

    It really would be useful if there was the possibility of logging into a read-only view of our ballot after the deadline, so that we can check. I saw this being discussed in another thread, so I hope the Helsinki concom can take that under consideration.

  7. All of these nominating issues (and e-mail issues) have left me less-than-confident in MACII’s ability. It actually makes me a bit anxious about the convention itself.

  8. @Cassy B., I can’t see that they’ve announced a date when site selection will open, but it seems to me it’s usually about when voting on the final Hugo ballot starts, which would make it in May sometime. The deadline is later for site selection, though – you or your designate can carry your site selection ballot to MidAmeriCon II, or you can vote there, with a deadline midway through the con. The Hugo deadline will be earlier.

    As to memberships, of course you have to have a voting membership in MAC2, either supporting or attending, in order to vote on the final Hugo ballot or in site selection. You can buy that now if you haven’t already. For site selection you have to also pay for an advance supporting membership in the con being voted on – is that the membership you mean? Since there are two site selections being run, for the 2018 Worldcon (New Orleans or San Jose) and the 2017 NASFiC (San Juan or Valley Forge), to vote in both you would need to pay for an advance supporting membership in each.

    Speaking of which, who are people favoring for the Worldcon in 2018? I know I’m voting Puerto Rico for the NASFiC, but I’m undecided on the worldcon. I’ve seen presentations from each and I’m afraid I was unimpressed.

  9. Speaking of which, who are people favoring for the Worldcon in 2018? I know I’m voting Puerto Rico for the NASFiC, but I’m undecided on the worldcon.

    I am also voting for Puerto Rico for the 2017 NASFiC. I’m leaning towards New Orleans just based on geography, as there is little chance I could make it to San Jose, but my leanings could change as the bids become more fleshed out.

  10. @Lenore Jones, I have a supporting membership in MAC2 and Helsinki; I’m following Kevin Standlee’s advise and getting on the site selection train; apparently voting site selection gets me a membership for the WorldCon 2 years hence. So as long as I keep voting site selection, I keep being a supporting member for the next two years.

    Yes, I know there’s a site selection voting fee, but it’s apparently at or less than the supporting membership fee for any given WorldCon, so it’s net as cheap or cheaper if I’m willing to commit two years in advance.

    That’s my understanding, anyway; I welcome correction.

  11. @Aaron, I haven’t done my due diligence yet, so I haven’t formed an opinion. I’ll look at the bids before I vote.

  12. Cassy B on April 6, 2016 at 2:05 pm said:

    Yes, I know there’s a site selection voting fee, but it’s apparently at or less than the supporting membership fee for any given Worldcon, so it’s net as cheap or cheaper if I’m willing to commit two years in advance.

    That is correct. That’s why it’s called an “Advance Supporting Membership.” You’re buying a Supporting membership in Worldcon N+2 in advance of the site’s election, and you’re always paying the lowest possible cost for that membership. To think of it another way, you’re buying your WSFS membership for year N+2, and as a benefit of joining so far in advance, you get to help select where WSFS’s annual convention will be held in that year.

    (Incidentally, I’m a member of the San José in 2018 bid and secretary of the board of directors of the bid’s parent non-profit corporation, SFSFC Inc. This is the same non-profit corporation that ran the 1993 Worldcon in San Francisco and the 2002 Worldcon in San José.)

  13. San Jose has a MUCH better concom and depth of experience in the organization. (Kevin! The other Kevin!) These people have thrown many, many great cons, under budget. Including more than one Worldcon. The weather will be WAY better — no humidity, no bugs, no rain or hurricanes.

    NOLA … does not impress me. I don’t think I’ve seen a bid party for them, and their outreach seems nil. Their web page at announcement consisted of… their flyer. And their hotel isn’t near any of the places you’d want to see. The last time they had a Worldcon, I got a lot of reports from friends that the French Quarter was fun and the plantations out of town were lovely and all about how much time they’d spent NOT at the con.

    With San Jose, it’s downtown. You get the beach nearby, the mountains not far, mass transit to San Francisco, and access to at least four different wine regions/appellations. Or you might just have so much fun at the con that you don’t do any touristing till before and after… although you really should get out to the downtown restaurants, taquerias, and bars. And donuts.

    And walk over to the Tech Museum, which is the geekiest museum EVAR and should not be missed by anyone who’s fannish enough to attend a Worldcon. Wee fen will love the Children’s Discovery Museum, a short light rail ride away. So will their grownups; it’s all hands-on science. But it’s basically a 5 year old’s heaven. And there’s some very nice churches within walking distance if you’re looking for that sort of heaven. Or an art museum and a quilt/textile museum. And it’s not far from Japantown for all your otaku needs.

    If you don’t want to leave the con (and chances are you might not), two of the hotels are actually connected to the convention center. The convention center itself is more than used to cons — there’s a furry con, an anime con, and now a ComicCon there every year. And it’s accessible. And no smoking. Ditto the hotels.

    I doubt I’ll make the NASFIC, but I’m leaning towards San Juan because Caribbean beats suburban Philly any day.

  14. lurkertype on April 6, 2016 at 3:03 pm said:

    San Jose has a MUCH better concom and depth of experience in the organization.

    Thanks for the kind words.

    (Kevin! The other Kevin!)

    That, by the way, is a reference to Kevin Roche, who will chair San José’s Worldcon if we win the bid. He was co-chair, along with his husband Andy Trembley, of Westercon 66 in Sacramento in 2013. (Westercon 66 was also an SFSFC-sponsored convention.) Andy is chair of the San José in 2018 bid and will hand the baton over to “Evil Kevin” should we win the bid.

    (I’m “Tall Kevin” — the nicknames help tell us apart when we’re both at BASFA meetings.)

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