Brian Keene. Photo by Scott Edelman.
(1) BRIAN KEENE BURN INJURY. Horror author and podcaster Brian Keene is hospitalized, reports Stephen Kozeniewski, who has started a “Brian Keene Burn Fund” at GoFundMe:
On June 5, 2018, author, podcaster, philanthropist, and father Brian Keene was badly burned in an accident. At this time he is conscious and in good spirits but has first degree burns on his face and second degree burns on his body.
As a freelance author, Brian does not have health insurance. We’re not sure at this time how long he’ll be in treatment, or how much the bill will be, but any visit to the hospital is expensive, and will only be compounded by lost wages from not being able to work.
We’re asking the community of writers, horror fans, and just decent human beings in general to chip in a few dollars to help get Brian back on his feet and spending time with his loving girlfriend and sons. We’d be very grateful for anything you can afford to contribute.
The appeal has raised $14,415 of its $15,000 goal in the first four hours online.
Keene co-hosts of The Horror Show with Brian Keene. Last May, they held that 24-hour telethon and raised roughly $21,000 in support of Scares That Care.
Kozeniewski added in an update, “What we know right now is that the wind shifted while Brian was burning brush.”
(2) ALL YOUR COMIC CONVENTION ARE BELONG TO US. Those lovable knuckleheads who run San Diego Comic-Con International would like a federal judge to award them several million dollars in attorney fees after winning their lawsuit against the Salt Lake Comic Con. Courthouse News has the story: “San Diego Comic-Con: ‘Comic Convention’ Is Ours”.
…U.S. District Judge Anthony Battaglia heard a host of posttrial motions Thursday, including San Diego Comic-Con’s request for over $4.5 million in attorney fees which have already been paid in full.
San Diego Comic-Con attorney Callie Bjurstrom with Pillsbury Law told Battaglia Thursday he should find the case is “exceptional” so that attorney fees and costs can be awarded.
“This was a very expensive case; the reason this case was so expensive was because of defendants and their counsel and the way they litigated this case,” Bjurstrom said.
She pointed out Brandenburg testified at trial he knew about San Diego Comic-Con’s trademarks but still used “Comic Con” to name his Utah convention. Bjurstrom said the Salt Lake owners engaged in a “public intimidation campaign” once San Diego Comic-Con sent them a cease-and-desist letter to stop infringing the trademark and that Salt Lake’s attorneys filed meritless motions, “flip-flopped” on legal theories and violated court orders throughout the three-year litigation.
“If this case isn’t exceptional, I don’t know what is,” Bjurstrom said.
San Diego Comic-Con also asked Battaglia to permanently bar the Salt Lake convention from using its trademarks, arguing its reputation has been irreparably harmed by the confusion to consumers.
During the trial, San Diego Comic-Con presented evidence its attendees had contacted its employees about the Salt Lake convention, believing the two events were associated.
But San Diego Comic-Con’s request went a step further than simply asking Battaglia to enjoin the Salt Lake convention operators from infringing its trademarks: it asked the judge to bar the Salt Lake convention from using the words “comic convention” or phonetic equivalents to “Comic Con” or “comic convention.”
Bjurstrom said the injunction should include any spelling variation on “Comic Con” which is pronounced the same as the San Diego trademark, including spelling it with a “K” or “Kahn.”
“Whether you spell Comic Con with a ‘C’ or a ‘K’, it’s pronounced the same. It is exactly the same when you say it,” Bjurstrom said.
San Diego Comic-Con also asked the judge to order the Salt Lake operators to destroy marketing and advertising materials which make reference to “Comic Con” and to cease operating websites and social media accounts which reference the trademark.
Battaglia took the motions under submission and will issue a written order.
(3) WIKIPEDIA. Juliet McKenna asks “What can SFF fandom do about the inherent bias of Wikipedia?”. The author looked into the question because the Wikipedia entry about her was flagged for deletion, on grounds that she is not sufficiently notable:
It seems Wikipedia is aware of its systemic bias, as detailed in this article. Read this, and related pieces, and I imagine many of you will note, with the weary contempt of familiarity, the repeated insistence that it’s up to women themselves, and other under-represented groups to do all the hard work here. Though I haven’t found anything addressing the issue I raise above, explaining what we’re expected to do when sufficient acceptable citations simply do not exist, and those references that do exist are not deemed acceptable. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
On the plus side, I have learned that there are dedicated groups of female and other special-interest Wikipedians spending considerable time and effort updating and expanding pages, intent on correcting this bias. Mind you, I also learned their work is frequently challenged and even undone by other Wikipedians applying the all too prevalent and far too often white western male logic of ‘not of interest to me personally = not of interest to anyone’. And of course, such challenges can very easily be a thinly veiled cover for actively discriminatory behaviour. Having read the Wikipedia page on handling tendentious editing, I am not in the least reassured that this is in any way satisfactorily addressed.
(4) LUCRATIVE SFF AUCTION. Fine Books & Collections was standing by the cash register: “Sci-fi from the Stanley Simon Estate Breaks Records in Swann Literature Auction”.
Science fiction ruled on May 15 at Swann Galleries’ auction of 19th & 20th Century Literature. Selections from the Estate of Stanley Simon, featuring 84 rare and first editions of cornerstones of the genre, boasted a 98% sell-through rate. All of the offered titles by Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury, Philip K. Dick and Stephen King sold, with many achieving auction records.
Leading the pack was a signed first edition of Dick’s dystopian novel The Man in the High Castle, 1962, which was purchased by a collector for $10,400, above a high estimate of $6,000, a record for the work. Another record was achieved by a signed first edition of Ubik, 1969, at $5,500, while the auction debut of the rare galley proofs for Valis, 1981, reached $5,000.
Simon had acquired several uncorrected proofs of important works, none of which had previously appeared at auction. While not strictly science-fiction, material by Stephen King outperformed in this category. The highlight was the presentation copy of an uncorrected proof of The Stand, 1978, which sold to a collector for $9,100. Also available were one of apparently 28 copies of proofs of King’s The Shining, 1977, inscribed, which sold for five times its high estimate for $6,250, and the complete six-volume set of uncorrected proofs of King’s The Green Mile, 1996, exceeded its $1,200 high estimate to sell for $5,200.
Another highlight from the Simon estate was the complete Foundation trilogy, 1951-53, by Isaac Asimov. Together, the three signed first editions achieved an auction record of $9,750. Also by Asimov, a signed first edition of I, Robot, 1950, reached $6,250, above a high estimate of $3,500. Important editions of Ray Bradbury’s magnum opus Fahrenheit 451, 1953, were led by the limited author’s edition personally inscribed to Simon ($7,500). The popular asbestos-bound edition reached $5,200. All six editions offered were purchased….
(5) LE GUIN’S LAST EARTHSEA STORY. The Paris Review has a story by Ursula K. Le Guin. And not just any story, but a final Earthsea tale, written a year before her death. (So I’m guessing it’s the last one.)
He was thinking of Lookfar, abandoned long ago, beached on the sands of Selidor. Little of her would be left by now, a plank or two down in the sand maybe, a bit of driftwood on the western sea. As he drifted near sleep he began to remember sailing that little boat with Vetch, not on the western sea but eastward, past Far Toly, right out of the Archipelago. It was not a clear memory, because his mind had not been clear when he made that voyage, possessed by fear and blind determination, seeing nothing ahead of him but the shadow that had hunted him and that he pursued, the empty sea over which it had fled.
(6) BUMBLEE TRAILER. This movie will be in theaters at Christmas.
Every adventure has a beginning. Watch the official teaser trailer for Bumblebee, starring Hailee Steinfeld and John Cena.
(7) TODAY’S BIRTHDAY PRODUCER
- Born June 5, 1953 – Kathleen Kennedy
(8) IT’S A JUNGLE OUT THERE. Of possible interest to Sarah Gailey fans (because of a hippo reference) is this segment from the June 3 episode of HBO’s Last Week Tonight, on the subject of guardianship for the elderly. The relevant portion starts at about the 13:20 mark. That’s where John Oliver introduces a new PSA on the subject, starring several celebrities – including William Shatner.
(9) DOG DAYS. This perfect poem inspired a thread of deep appreciation for the artist…
https://twitter.com/DelilahSDawson/status/1001854513492488192
(10) DINO APPRECIATION SUMMIT. Chuck Tingle and Jeff Goldblum had an internet encounter —
very thankful to have nice talk today with HANDSOME JEFFS GOLDBLUM about which kind of dinosaur is most handsome pic.twitter.com/NqNo6NBj2Y
— Chuck Tingle (@ChuckTingle) June 4, 2018
(11) WALL POLITICS. And they’ll make the schwein pay for it. (Oh, wait, that’s something else….) “Denmark backs fence on German border to keep out wild boar”.
Denmark’s parliament has voted to build a 68-km (42-mile) fence along the border with Germany in a bid to protect the pork industry from the spread of African swine fever.
The vote aimed at keeping out wild boar is controversial for several reasons.
Environmental campaigners doubt it will stop the animals entering Denmark, while others say Germany has no trace of the virus.
Some in Germany have condemned the move as gesture politics.
Work on constructing the fence is unlikely to start until autumn, after an assessment by Denmark’s environmental protection agency.
(12) MORE WALL POLITICS. Security décor from another era: “The 12 best posters from the very odd NSA archive”.
Long before it was at the centre of a huge spying scandal, the US National Security Agency had the communist threat to deal with – and wanted to make sure its staff did not spill secrets.
A vast archive of posters, apparently for display at the spy agency’s offices, has been posted online thanks to a freedom of information request from governmentattic.org.
The website asked for “a digital/electronic copy of the NSA old security posters from the 1950s and 1960s”, although confusingly it also got one featuring John Travolta.
Here are some of our favourites. The full, 139-page document, can be found here.
(13) CASTLE COCKY. More trademark hoo-hah: “Rapunzel, Rapunzel let down your trademark restrictions”.
Rapunzel, the long-haired maiden locked in a tower by an evil witch, has been immortalized in countless bedtime stories and adaptations, from the Brothers Grimm to Disney. There is even a teenage rapper who goes by the name RapUnzel.
Now, a private company wants to lock the princess’s name in a castle fortified by United States trademark law.
But this attempt to register the trademark for the name Rapunzel has unleashed fervent opposition, not from Hasbro or Mattel, but from an impassioned group of Suffolk University Law School professors and students.
(14) DINO DUBIOSITY. The BBC asks “Does Jurassic Park make scientific sense?” Can you guess the answer? I knew you could…
In 1993, Steven Spielberg’s film Jurassic Park defined dinosaurs for an entire generation.
It has been credited with inspiring a new era of palaeontology research.
But how much science was built into Jurassic Park, and do we now know more about its dinosaurs?
As its 25th anniversary approaches, visual effects specialist Phil Tippett and palaeontologist Steve Brusatte look back at the making of the film, and what we’ve learned since.
So, first of all, what did Jurassic Park get wrong? It started off by inheriting some complications from Michael Crichton’s novel, on which the film was based.
“I guess Cretaceous Park never had that same ring to it,” laughs Brusatte.
“Most of the dinosaurs are Cretaceous in age, that’s true.”
(15) SWEET WRITING. Cat Rambo tasted these chocolate bars for Green Man Review: “Chuao Chocolatier’s Chocolate Bars with All the Add-ins”.
Here in America we like our add-ins, ice cream and candy full of other candy, nuts, random sweets, and sometimes savories. Chuao (pronounced Chew-WOW) has a shelf-load of such, chocolate bars with all the goodies, created by Venezuelan chef Michael Antonorsi.
Most of the bars I tried were terrific but some are more successful than others. Idiosyncrasies of taste may make a difference; when I tweeted about the one I really disliked, someone mentioned that was their favorite, and bemoaned not being able to find it. And it’s not entirely fair to stack dark chocolate up against milk, particularly given that my sweet tooth resembles that of a six-year-old’s. Still, I present them in order of how much I liked them, from most to least.
First up, the “Baconluxious”. Described as “delicate maple sweetness, a sprinkle of bonfire smoked sea salt and crispy, uncured bacon in milk chocolate.” This had a nice aroma and when tasted, an immediate smoothness to its mouth feel, followed by a wash of saltiness and not-unpleasant grittiness before the final bacon note, leaving just a few salt crystals to be crunched between the tooth and savored. This was delicious to the point where I thought I would and then did readily pick one of these up again. And probably will again and again….
(16) A BOY AND HIS ROBO DOG. The AXL Official Trailer came out recently.
In the vein of classic ‘80s family movies SHORT CIRCUIT and FLIGHT OF THE NAVIGATOR, A.X.L. is a new adventure about a down-on-his luck teenage bike rider, Miles (Alex Neustaedter), who stumbles upon an advanced, robotic, military dog named A.X.L. Endowed with next-generation artificial intelligence but with the heart of a dog, A.X.L. forms an emotional bond with Miles, much to the chagrin of the rogue military scientists who created A.X.L. and would do anything to retrieve him. Knowing what is at stake if A.X.L. gets captured, Miles teams up with his smart, resourceful crush, Sara (Becky G), to protect his new best friend on a timeless, epic adventure for the whole family.
[Thanks to John King Tarpinian, Robin Reid, Cat Eldridge, JJ, Jonathan Cowie, Martin More Wooster, Chip Hitchcock, K.M. Alexander, Rev. Bob, Dann, Mike Kennedy, Michael D. Toman, Carl Slaughter, Steve Johnson, and Andrew Porter for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day Stoic Cynic.]
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Like a pixel, scrolled for the very first time
Before I read everything: Kevin Wilson (Game designer of several IP-games) talked about online abuse of creators. Its worth a read imho.
The very first guy (yes, guy) didnt get the message and basiccly defended the online abuse of actress Kellie Marie Tran, because the new movies are more political… so much to unpack. (eyeroll)
I’m very disappointed in how this cake turned out. I suppose i should have asked for written instructions. But I would have sworn you said bacon chocolate.
Every pixel in the room is filing at me, I want to scroll in their faces…
Everybody’s scrollin’ at me
I can’t read a file they’re sayin’
Only the godstalks in my mind
Filin’ in my head, I see the box tick and scroll on through…
10, 13) I would like to see Dr. Chuck Tingle write a tingler about CockyGate.
@Jayn, on the off chance you haven’t seen this yet:
@Joe H: That reminds me of this, which I thought was going to be just the sort of sketch I dislike and turned out to be just the opposite:
@ Kendall: I used to be more doctrinaire about it, but I still don’t like things like sweet-and-sour chicken or honey-glazed ham. I do have a preference for sweet barbecue sauce over sour, but given the option I’ll take sweet/hot instead; that seems to move the sauce enough in the direction of savory to make it work much better. Still prefer either butter or jam on my toast, not both. My favorite omelet is mushroom / onion / feta cheese.
“You can File if you want to, you can leave your thoughts online”
Re: savoury/sweet food combinations
There are numerous,
– turkey & cranberry sauce
– roast pork & apple sauce
– ham & pineapple. On pizza!
So bacon & chocolate doesn’t seem that weird to me.
There is such a thing as marmite chocolate. Apparently even marmite lovers draw the line at SOMETHING though, and it’s not a huge success.
@John A Arkansawyer
I had the same reaction when I saw that. I thought that sketch was sweet. Also, Melissa Villaseñor pulls off teenager surprisingly well.
Regarding sweet and savory:
– chocolate and bacon
– chocolate and salt
– caramel and salt
Those are all great things. Also, spicy/sweet Korean fried chicken is awesome. Oh, and chicken and waffles, though the savory does not need to intermingle with the sweet in that case.
I wish I could say those are just my opinions, but I’m afraid they are objective facts.
“And here come the pixels in grey, to scroll me away.”
@Soon Lee:
‘Cause your scrolls don’t file and if they don’t file well they’re… no scrolls of mine.
One of the reason bacon and chocolate works as well as it does is that they’re both fatty flavours. That said, bacon overpowers other things really easily if you’re not careful. Really what you want is the smoky flavour and a hint of salt. It also works a lot better if you use dark chocolate so you don’t have as much sweetness to it.
@Anna Feruglio:
If you want odd, Lindt sold a wasabi-flavoured chocolate bar for a while. For me, it was in the category of ‘I’m glad I tried it, but it’s not going to be a regular purchase’.
I say, we can read what we want to, explore new places in our mind
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind,
[This stuff barely needs changing.]
BTW, a friend recently brought round some unusual Kit Kat flavours (there are an incredible variety in Japan) to share. I rather liked green tea Kit Kat. Mandarin Orange Kit Kat was nice too but I was not convinced by Sake Kit Kat.
I’ve had green tea Kit Kat, and ‘cookies and cream’ Kit Kat as well; they’ve run a number of the flavours as special editions over here in Canada as well. Granted, the banana Kit Kat I never saw over here.
Yeah, Safety Dance is a fairly easy to tweak song. Some friends of mine filmed a cosplay video based on a tweaked version of the song some years back.
Mixing sweet and savory is an old, old idea: mincemeat, for example. And a lot of Middle Eastern dishes, where you get meat/bird with fruit – they’re not always noticeably sweet, though (I’m thinking of the one that uses rhubarb and parsley as the vegetables in the dish). Or, closer to home, pork or chicken with apricots or peaches. (I’d probably count tomatoes for this kind of dish, too.)
I have a recipe for a really nice African beef curry (which I’ve also made with chicken) with raisins, dates and dried apples.
@Chip Hitchcock
Try Feodora with candied orange peel or Hachez orange brittle leaves, if you can find them. Though I think both are milk rather than dark chocolate.
My current favourite is Hachez strawberry lemongrass, a special summer flavour.
Bacon chocolate is one of the really weird outgrowths of the Americn bacon obsession.
I actually like raisins better in savories than sweets. No raisin cookies. No raisins in pies or bread pudding. I’m a fan of biryani, which often has raisins. And there’s a pork pie a friend makes that has raisins. And a recipe for chicken and cherry pie I like.
I discovered that Cantaloupe Kit Kat and Apple Kit Kat both work, surprisingly enough. Cheese Kit Kats turn out to taste mostly of white chocolate, though they do smell of cheese.
There is nothing in that sentence that encourages me to try Cheese Kit Kats.
@Stoic Cynic: I am surprised that a handgun is useful against a bear; ISTM that low muzzle velocity, thick fur, and size would result in irritation rather than flight. But I’m equally uninclined to test. OTOH, a handgun against an urbanized “wild” turkey would probably be effective (and useful — turkeys near/in Boston take no s**t from anyone), but risky.
Oh my god, I would drink mugs of maple syrup with bacon swizzle sticks!!!
Nothing is better than pancakes or waffles with syrup and bacon. Plus OJ.
Black bears are relatively easily frightened off if they’re just looking for a meal, or if you don’t go near the cubs. Grizzlies, not so much, and they’re much bigger; bear attacks south of the arctic ranges tend to be grizzlies. They can be dissuaded but it might take firearms. And Polar Bears … handsome at a distance, or in a zoo, but eek! Though I’ve been told if you come face to face with one, dodge to your right (their left). Like humans, they tend to be right-pawed and use that one first.
My reaction to this knowledge was thinking, this will give you a few more seconds of life…
@Lenora Rose:
I was once in a car with my grandparents in the Kootenay Boundary in southern B.C., when we saw a bear cub run across the road.
My grandfather came to an immediate stop.
A few seconds later, a second, larger bear ran across the road, presumably mama chasing after the cub.
That’s when my grandfather started driving again.
@Cora: I have never seen either of those brands; I will keep an eye out the next time I go across the border, and look in on the gigantic Whole Foods (haven’t checked them in a while) to see if I get lucky.
The national dish of Afghanistan (Qabili Pilau) is lamb with basmati rice cooked in some kinda broth with some kinda spices, then baked with carrots, raisins, maybe almonds, with the meat covered by the rice and stuff. It is NOM. Meat falls off the bone when you dig it out.
Now I want it but already have pizza for dinner. First World problems.
Jenora Feuer:
It’s lucky there wasn’t a collision after your grandfather resumed driving. There’s usually three of them in a group. (Based on anecdotal evidence. And they have chairs!)
@Lurkertype
The Afghan cookbook I have says it’s water and juice from the meat. (Two recipes, using different methods for cooking the rice.) I bet it’s OMNOMNOM! (I’ve met Persian food. Similar but not the same.)
@Lee: Not butter and jam together?! ::eyes you suspiciously::
@Soon Lee: I think I may be odd; I like turkey and I like cranberry sauce and I like the U.S. traditional Thanksgiving dinner, but I prefer eating the cranberry sauce separately. Also, I have a big affection for the jellied stuff in a can, which most people make fun of me for. One of the few foods (at least, one of the few prepared/processed ones) where a serving size is measured in inches! 😀 So silly.
I try ham & pineapple pizzas about half the time it’s an option, but I’m not really into it. I’m not a big pineapple person, but sometimes other meat pizza options disappear too quickly, and it’s an okay alternative when (like me) you like pizza with meat on it.
Hmm, I did have a giant specialty cupcake with some bacon on the frosting and methinks some kind of bacon-flavored-something in the cupcake itself. that was weird, but not bad, I admit! It was a chocolate base cupcake, IIRC.
I’ve had & I like the green tea Kit Kat. Wow, Mandarin Orange?! I’d love to try that!
@Jenora Feuer: Ooh, I’d like to try the banana Kit Kat, too!
@Lurkertype & @P J Evans: I love Afghan food. 🙂 There’s a place that used to be a few miles from my office and I discovered a while back that it moved a few blocks from work! I’ve only been once since it moved, but mmmm, I need to go there again soon, thanks for reminding me.
@Anna Feruglio: Marmite chocolate?!?!?! I don’t even know what to think. I probably should try it, so I can get my vaguely-appalled curiosity satisfied. 😉
I had enough junk food today (i.e., too much), but this is chat making me hungry.
Bacon in milk chocolate can be pretty good. I can’t remember the one brand that was excellent though most are mediocre. What I can recommend against is bacon cappuccino. Local coffee chain in California started carrying it at the height of the bacon in everything craze. Knew the odds. Tried it anyway. One sip and I disposed of the whole cup. One sip and two hours of the most vile taste of greasy sugar and burnt toast. Did I mention it was bad?
I have yet to find a bacon-chocolate version that really seems to hit the spot for me, but the problem is always too little bacon. I think what I’m really looking for is some nice crispy bacon strips that are then lightly dipped in dark chocolate coating.
@Heather Rose Jones,
I’m almost tempted to crisp up some bacon & whip up some chocolate sauce!
Honestly it’s largely about the addition of salt for me. I really dislike sweet things that have ended up salted. I mean, I also don’t really want pig-taste in my chocolate either. But I also don’t add extra salt to a savoury meal either as I seem to be overly sensitive to the taste. Possibly related? I can’t stand sugar being added to tea or coffee – it’s such a massive clash to the natural flavour of the drink that I just can’t stomach it. The amount of times I’ve forgotten to ask for no sugar and ended up with a cup of lightly coffee-flavoured sugar water in Thailand…
Somehow missed the kitkat thing: the best kitkat, hands down, is definitely the green tea kitkat. Green tea chocolate in general is pretty great. As is green tea ice cream. Green tea [snack/dessert] is generally a good shout, it seems. I quite like the sakura kitkat too but it’s a little artificial and over-sweet.
I always buy a big bag of the mini green tea kitkats for my friends when I head home from Asia.
Must… resist… siren call… of… ice cream…
@Kendall: Try pepperoni and pineapple pizza. The contrast is even contrastier. Of course other people might be more likely to eat it then.
@Heather: There are many do it yourself recipes online. I haven’t tried any, because diet. Shouldn’t be that tough, though, and you could get the bacon exactly as you like.
@Oneiros: you don’t do sugar in tea, yet you like tea in your chocolate, which is sugared?
I like the different flavors of Pocky: orange, green tea, and banana. All artificial, but that’s Pocky for you.
@Lurkertype: “Try pepperoni and pineapple pizza.”
No, thanks. I do like pineapple-and-meats pizza, but I usually get there by substituting pineapple for pepperoni. (I find pepperoni to be far too greasy for my taste, but I like me some cooked pineapple.) I also like getting the shop to use barbecue sauce instead of standard pizza sauce, but I can go either way with that.
@Lurkertype: honestly I’m not sure what makes matcha chocolate acceptable to me but not sugary tea of any sort. I also don’t like matcha lattes but then, matcha ice cream… (Baskin Robbins in Korea had a fantastic flavour that was a blend of dark chocolate and matcha ice cream)
@ Soon Lee: I like turkey and I like cranberry sauce, but not at the same time; in particular, I don’t want the juice from the cranberry sauce getting on the turkey or into the stuffing. If the turkey needs moistening, that’s what the gravy is for. Give me the sauce in a separate cup and I’m likely to eat it for dessert!
Pork and applesauce, same deal.
Ham and pineapple has the same problem as honey-glazed ham, and the only way I want pineapple on a pizza is if it’s a dessert pizza.
@ P J Evans: Dried fruit + meat doesn’t trigger the sweet/savory clash for me. I think this may be due to many years of SCA feasts, because I think of that sort of thing as “period food”. Or it might be because dried fruits don’t taste sugary in the way that e.g. jam does.
@ Kendall: Butter + jam is one of the things I’ve gotten less doctrinaire about, because you can’t get the cooks at Waffle House not to pre-drench your toast with melted butter. But at home, it’s one or the other, not both. ETA or peanut butter!
@Lee: “Ham and pineapple has the same problem as honey-glazed ham, and the only way I want pineapple on a pizza is if it’s a dessert pizza.”
This reminds me that I’ll likely be going grocery shopping tomorrow, and sandwich fixin’s would be a nice change of pace. Honey ham it is, possibly with turkey and definitely with cheese…
Butter and jam, only in the context of spreading some jam (or jelly) on buttered toast at breakfast. For biscuits, you want to mix butter with honey, ideally honey from your own hives. Honey also goes well with peanut butter, but adding jelly or jam is just too much. A third wheel, if you like.
@Rev. Bob: No. Butter and molasses for biscuits.
You all have made me ravenously hungry
There’s a place near me (Black Sheep Pizza) that does a pineapple & bacon pizza that is amazing — the pineapple is in very, very thinly-sliced rings, which seems to help.
Paul Weimer: You all have made me ravenously hungry
I, for one, am exceedingly appalled at the very obviously inferior and perverted tastes of some of my fellow Filers. 😜
I had a green tea Kit Kat not long ago and wasn’t much impressed. However for some reason I really like the white chocolate ones.
@Rail: “No. Butter and molasses for biscuits.”
Of course, when you really get down to it, there’s nothing like a good mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, when the mutton is nice and lean…
😉
Jam is what you put on waffles and pancakes, on top of the butter.
Honey goes on biscuits, on top of the butter, and on peanut butter sammiches. (Butter-and-honey sandwiches are a treat, and brown sugar goes on pb sammiches too, though it tends to want to fall out if you get lumps.)
Molasses is an ingredient in other stuff: cookies, breads, beans….
Just be sure you properly source those tomatoes, Bob.
(“You did not steal an old lady’s tomatoes. It was rude, and also, she would destroy you.” — Oor Wombat)
Honey on buttered biscuits? I suppose, but suspect it’s a regionalism — although not as regional as maple syrup, which is what I grew up with. I was near DC, but my father was a many-generations New Englander (we’re somehow related to the chairs) who insisted on real maple syrup (in the blunted-arrowhead) bottle instead of the “pancake syrups” that got ~98% of the shelf space then.