74 thoughts on “2017 Hugo Award Winners”

1. Congratulations to all the winners!

2. And all puppies placed below No Award.

3. Bitter sweet to see these from my hospital bed and not live in Helsinki, but so, so happy to see ‘The Tomato Thief’ winning. And, of course, glad that I was able to donate my membership to a Finnish fan when it became obvious that there was no way I was going to get on my plane!

4. Red Wombat’s acceptance speech, about whalefall was awesome and will surely get nominated for BPD(s) next year.

5. Congrats to all who won!

6. Suzle and I “watched” the live-streamed ceremony – there was some unintentional humor from mis-heard or mis-typed substitutions, and some dropped names of presenters or winners, so I’m glad we could fill in the blanks here. On the other hand, transcribing an awards ceremony has to be a tough job, so many thanks to whoever was doing the transcription.

7. NickPheas says And all puppies placed below No Award.

   Nice. I just checked some of Puppy papers, errr, blogs. Not one of them is saying anything about Awards.

8. Congrats to all the winners!

   Looks like Best Novel was very close, and Chuck Tingle almost made it.
   While Arrival and Every Heart a Doorway totally dominated their categories.

9. Pretty great outcome. Especially when only two categories had pretty obvious winners.

10. Clickity

11. Really wish I could have been there. 11 of the winners were either my 1st or 2nd choice which is something of a record for me. I’m planning on catching as much as the con as possible on the Worldcon 75 YouTube channel. I know the live stream of the awards was unsuccessful, but hopefully they’ll get a video of the ceremony posted soon.

12. A PDF full of Hugo voting statistics may be found here.

    Thanks to Twitter user @didic, “Didi at Worldcon,” for the link!

13. Interesting. Mr. Noah Ward doesn’t appear to have won anything this year, which is a good sign. Either the revised nomination process is proving effective or enough of the ballot-box-stuffers have wandered off.

14. Looking at the nominating data and the voting data (both linked to on WorldCon’s page here: http://www.worldcon.fi/wsfs-hugos/hugo-awards/hugo-award-winners-2017/

    If I’m reading this correctly, there were about 80 Rabid nominators and about 30 Rabid voters. Beale got 83 Nominations for Best Editor, and only 32 votes. This year’s T-Rex book had 77 nominations and 45 votes.

    I hope this means the Rabids are done. And, if so, I do want to thank them for being responsible for an improved voting system.

    I can’t wait to see the reports for the meeting about the impact of EPH and other modifications we’ve voted in the last few years.

15. The one thing that surprised me looking at the stats was how poorly The Vision did in the Graphic Story category.
    Monstress was a worthy winner, don’t get me wrong, but Vision was a well told story that really explored the human condition disguised as a superhero comic. Obviously I am out of step with the masses.

16. I’m in Helsinki, but I wasn’t at the ceremony either, since the panel I was on was running up right to the Hugo ceremony. So I followed the awards on my smartphone in the hotel restaurant and occasionally surprised fellow diners with spontaneous outbursts of “Yeah”.

    Plus, I just woke up my Mom, when I squeed about finding my name on the extended nomination list for best fanwriter.

17. The File 770 time machine is working again, so this post is brought to you from the far off future of 5464.

18. Looking at the nomination statistics, it looks like EPH gave results only slightly different from the old first-past-the-post system…and one of those slight differences was Theodore Beale displacing Patrick Nielsen Hayden as a finalist in BELF. How ironic.

19. @NickPheas: Vision was a well told and well constructed comic….that ran counter to half a century of established history of the character. That dropped it down on my ballot, at least. In any case, it was quite a strong category, in which something had to come in last.

20. The stats are interesting, but I’m wondering if I’m reading the numbers correctly. By my eyeballing, each of the written-fiction awards was ignored by a third or more of the voters, compared to ~10% in the past four years; is this a trend, or just an effect of a serious fraction of the membership not having English as a first language (combined with slow translation, especially into a language with a limited number of speakers) versus being able to see movies subtitled in a comprehensible language? London was a bit below average for novel, and well below average (but above Helsinki) for shorter work; my guess would be they had more non-English-first members than a typical US convention but not as many as Helsinki, so slow translation may be the issue.

21. Looking at the nomination statistics, it looks like EPH gave results only slightly different from the old first-past-the-post system

    Yes and no. The big thing was that EPH caused Teddy to confine his griefing to one per category and one per category can be ignored.

22. Congrats to the winners! This is the first year in my three years of voting where none of my limited first choices won an award, which I think points to the fact that we have a depth in quality candidates that we didn’t have in the two previous years.

23. I was also surprised by The Vision, but I was more surprised how poorly “Splendor & Misery” did. Not to mention Too Like the Lightning and “Our Talons Can Crush Galaxies”, both of which I had considered highly likely candidates.

    Also, Homestuck didn’t even make the long list. Ouch. (Though Oglaf made it.)

    (Here in 6155, both are considered highly important classical works of art, natch.)

24. Phew! File770 finally loaded for me!
    What a fun and entertaining morning! Woke up early and they hadn’t reached Best Novel yet. Shame the video live stream didn’t work. I want to see RedWombat’s dead whale speech.

    A very nice surprise in the nomination stats!

    Sad, though, that Splendor & Misery didn’t win – that was the one nominee I was really, really hoping would win.

25. David Goldfarb on August 11, 2017 at 2:07 pm said:

    Looking at the nomination statistics, it looks like EPH gave results only slightly different from the old first-past-the-post system

    Fan artist has the biggest EPH effect because of a lot of near-ties.

26. After I sent the “In Memoriam” list out, I noticed that Tom Endrey appears twice. (You have it too.) Owell…

    Chip Hitchcock: I didn’t vote in most of the written fiction categories. I’m turning into a fake fan in my dotage.

27. I am at a party thrown by GRRM, who has made me wear a chicken hat, but I love you all.

28. @Stevie: Sorry you’re in the hospital and couldn’t make it.

    @NickPheas: I liked “Monstress” a lot and I strongly disliked “Vision.” But I wouldn’t call myself in-step with the masses, usually.

    @Cora Buhlert & @Camestros Felapton: Congrats! 😀 I haven’t looked closely at the long list yet, but I did notice your names.

29. I was rooting for Clipping too. But it was tough going in that category. On the other hand, it was wonderful that Arrival won Long Form. I still have a hard time believing that Hollywood released an actual movie that was based on a Ted Chiang story and hewed rather close to the original material.

30. Congrats to all the winners and I hope the losers enjoy the Hugo Losers Party!

31. Congratulations to all the winners!

    And wow, what a strong group of winners it was! SO MUCH great stuff!

32. Hmmm. I seem to have settled into a comfortable also-ran status suitable for my advanced years but my site seems to be completely off people’s radar. Must post more statistical minutia!

33. @NickPheas – Personally, I would have voted Vision higher if it had been the full 12 issue run that was nominated, instead of just the first 6 issues. The first half was good, but the ending is what really made it great. (Note that I haven’t read any older Vision comics. All I know of the character is what’s in the Avengers movies.)

34. Wow, there’s nothing here I’m upset about, and almost all of it is how I voted! Even if I didn’t vote for the winners in some categories, I can see why they won.

    Good job, Worldcon!

35. WOMBAT POWER!

    For those that weren’t at the ceremony, there were actually a few people starting to applaud Castalia House (like no more than 5 persons or so). You could hear people hushing at them. And when John-Henri Holmberg read Beales’s name, there was a sound almost like a small sigh that made lots of people laugh.

36. I’m not sure if anything I voted 1 for actually won but each win was like ‘wow! what a great choice!’

37. And I also placed Vision first. Monstress second. I have a real hard time understanding what people saw in Black Panther or Ms Marvel. One was confusing with unlikeable characters and the other standard fare.

38. I collected a full set of first choice winners in the short fiction categories, which are my favourites, so I’m blissfully happy. 🙂

39. Yeah, if there’s not much organized slating going on, EPH won’t yield results very different from first-past-the-post. That was one of its selling points, that it wouldn’t significantly change the result in the absence of slating. Mr. Beale limiting his ballot-box stuffing to one item per category, and apparently losing most of his voting strength, means that specific distortion isn’t really there for EPH to counteract.

    The major long-term effect of EPH may have been to discourage Mr. Beale and his imitators. Personally, I’ll take that as a win.

40. I correctly called seven first-place winners – there’s nothing I’m exactly unhappy about, though there’s some cases where I wish some things had done better – still, congrats to the winners!

    (And, looking at those nominations stats, there’s a couple of things I might try to push a bit harder for next year….)

    Must go now, the Alemanni are invading Gaul, there will be some mess to clean up.

41. Oh, and congrats to both Camestros and MRK for being soooo cloooose. Of course it would have made my voting in those categories even harder.

    Big ups for Oor Wombat! Yay! So glad she was there; hope to see her speech online soon.

    Wow, Best Novel went down to the wire.
    Best Related stats also interesting.
    Graphic exactly mirrors my votes in every place.
    Chuck Tingle did really well! Love is real!
    Puppies got THRASHED. Below Noah in every pass.

    Re: Vision — with that volume ending on a giant cliffhanger/middle of the story, it didn’t tell a complete story. That hurt it. (Even “Saga”, being Vol. 6, seemed more self-contained.) Also, the lettering made it nearly impossible to read on my tablet; might have been the same for others, which makes people cranky. And NOTHING touched the awesomeness of “Monstress”. Ms. Marvel told a complete and good story, which would have won if not up against Monstress.

    I am kinda annoyed about Editor Long: Navah Wolfe should have been ranked MUCH higher just on the incredible strength of “Starlit Wood”. It’s the only category where the results caused my jimmies rustling.
    Mildly grumbly that “Vellit Boe” didn’t win in Novella, but am glad the Not-A-Stories ended up last there.
    I hope Clippng had fun at the con anyway; I knew they weren’t going to win b/c they are not a TV show.

    Big ups to Packet Coordinator and Whistleblower Jo van Ekeren and to Nicholas Whyte of this parish.

42. Thanks to Eric Franklin’s post, I now understand that there are TWO documents detailing Hugo statistics; the one I cited earlier covers the nomination process, while the other one describes the counting of the final-ballot votes.

43. The Guardian have a pretty good article up already with quotes from Nicholas Whyte – a good and speedy piece of PR work there I think.

    Looking forward to getting video so I can see some of the acceptance speeches.

44. I mainly watched the Coveritlive and #thehugoawards on twitter (of course, wanted to watch the livestream 🙁 ). Definitely a great group of winners and nominees. Hopefully there will be a chicken hat picture.

45. Congratulations to Red Wombat and hope everyone is enjoying Finland. I was there earlier this year and it was wonderful.

46. @Lee Whiteside:

    One chicken hat picture, as requested

47. I was very happy to see Arrival win Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form. A smart SF film up against Star Wars? A nice surprise.

48. I love the Atorox Award. It looks great.

49. My favorite pointless trivia tidbit so far: this year sets a record for number of Ursulas winning Hugos. 🙂

    (Congrats to Our Wombat, Ms. Le Guin, and all the other winners.)

50. Xtifr on August 11, 2017 at 5:18 pm said:

    My favorite pointless trivia tidbit so far: this year sets a record for number of Ursulas winning Hugos.

    Appropriate given the ursus mascot

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