Marty Cantor sends one last photo: “Shameless that I am, here is a photo of (left to right), Randy Byers, Ian Sorensen, and Claire Brialey. In a bathroom. Well, it is the con suite’s bathroom, but still …”
I think the person outside of the bathroom may be Fred Mouton, but I’m not sure.
Who are you calling a john?
Mike, did you want photos? As I offered you, I have hundreds.
Oh, and Claire B was EXTREMELY CLEAR that she didn’t want to be identified in ANY PHOTOGRAPHS by her full name, and didn’t want any posted in public.
She said it was okay to post them privately, but only if she was identified as “Claire B,” and the pictures were only distributed privately where the viewers were known and everyone else locked out.
Having now conveyed this, it’s between y’all, but one doesn’t run into this problem if one is careful about asking permission before taking anyone’s photo, and even more careful about asking them their views on publication/posting.
Instead one runs into all sorts of other tedious problems.
@Gary: These are not posts I would expect from someone who is wary of the old fannish game of “let’s you and him (or her) fight.”
On the other hand, I thank you for your offer of photos. I have your e-mail and will answer soon. I’ll bet you have some good photos of the event and I would like to use 3 or 4 in the paperzine. For that project I’d be willing to reach out to the necessary people for permission and to meet the other conditions you have laid on their use.
I posted this comment about taking photos at cons on Trufen, and thought it might be useful here:
I never had problems with taking photos as conventions. The trick was
and still is to take a lot of photos, discard or not use the bad
ones. Having a zoom camera lens so you’re not right in front of
people or liable to crop people at the edge out of the shot is very
useful. Some people, like Tor’s Tom Doherty, would see you were
taking a shot and then whip off their glasses and compose their faces
as if they’re having their passport photo taken. Hence the zoom lens
from beyond their zone of awareness. Also, don’t be shy. Get in
there, in front of them, take your photo, get out. If you’re in a
panel, stand up, take the shot, sit down. Or walk up to the front on
the side of the room, take a panel shot, then go away again.
OTOH, I knew people with lots of expensive camera equipment who took
really lousy shots, so it’s in the eye of the beholder, not the
camera itself.
I would always mentally crop the photos in the frame — I’ve always
used SLRs and then a digital SLR, not one of those horrible little
cameras where you look at the picture on the back of the camera —
and then you can crop the photo again, using photo editing software,
so you eliminate the ceiling, the floor, the bunch of trash in front
of the people. Generally you go for shots that show people from the
waist up, unless it’s a gorgeous woman (or man).
I think the person outside of the bathroom may be Fred Mouton, but I’m not sure.
Who are you calling a john?
Mike, did you want photos? As I offered you, I have hundreds.
Oh, and Claire B was EXTREMELY CLEAR that she didn’t want to be identified in ANY PHOTOGRAPHS by her full name, and didn’t want any posted in public.
She said it was okay to post them privately, but only if she was identified as “Claire B,” and the pictures were only distributed privately where the viewers were known and everyone else locked out.
Having now conveyed this, it’s between y’all, but one doesn’t run into this problem if one is careful about asking permission before taking anyone’s photo, and even more careful about asking them their views on publication/posting.
Instead one runs into all sorts of other tedious problems.
@Gary: These are not posts I would expect from someone who is wary of the old fannish game of “let’s you and him (or her) fight.”
On the other hand, I thank you for your offer of photos. I have your e-mail and will answer soon. I’ll bet you have some good photos of the event and I would like to use 3 or 4 in the paperzine. For that project I’d be willing to reach out to the necessary people for permission and to meet the other conditions you have laid on their use.
I posted this comment about taking photos at cons on Trufen, and thought it might be useful here:
I never had problems with taking photos as conventions. The trick was
and still is to take a lot of photos, discard or not use the bad
ones. Having a zoom camera lens so you’re not right in front of
people or liable to crop people at the edge out of the shot is very
useful. Some people, like Tor’s Tom Doherty, would see you were
taking a shot and then whip off their glasses and compose their faces
as if they’re having their passport photo taken. Hence the zoom lens
from beyond their zone of awareness. Also, don’t be shy. Get in
there, in front of them, take your photo, get out. If you’re in a
panel, stand up, take the shot, sit down. Or walk up to the front on
the side of the room, take a panel shot, then go away again.
OTOH, I knew people with lots of expensive camera equipment who took
really lousy shots, so it’s in the eye of the beholder, not the
camera itself.
I would always mentally crop the photos in the frame — I’ve always
used SLRs and then a digital SLR, not one of those horrible little
cameras where you look at the picture on the back of the camera —
and then you can crop the photo again, using photo editing software,
so you eliminate the ceiling, the floor, the bunch of trash in front
of the people. Generally you go for shots that show people from the
waist up, unless it’s a gorgeous woman (or man).
Andy, you and others might or might not want to read this: Internet famous, real-world notorious: UW student mocks WisCon, starts online firestorm.