(1) USED BOOK LOVE. Eric Flint weighs in: “How Should An Author Look On Used Book Sales”.
I ran across this blog by the author Kristen Lamb:
…while reading this article by Rachel Kramer Bussel in Salon magazine:
It will come as no surprise to anyone who knows me or who has read any of the essays I’ve written in the past on copyright laws and online piracy that I generally agree with Bussel’s stance and disagree with Lamb’s. But there are some issues involved that Bussel doesn’t address which I think are actually more important than the ones she does. Another way to put it is that I don’t think she goes far enough. The essence of her argument is that the situation is more complicated than Lamb presents it as being, and is not an either/or situation. While it is true that a book sold in a used book store may represent an immediate loss to an author, it can be made up for in the long run by exposing more people to that author….
To make a living as a full time writer, or even to derive a significant income from writing, an author has to constantly recreate their readership base. The process is dynamic, not static. And the main way an author does so is by having that huge penumbra of free books—“free,” at least, from the author’s standpoint—surrounding the much smaller number of books which get sold in a way that brings direct income.
That’s why Lamb’s view of the matter is so skewed. She’s right that it’s an either/or situation, but she doesn’t understand that the relationship between “either” and “or” is a necessary and beneficial one.
(2) MARKETING TO “FANGIRLS”. Her Universe Press drew the attention of the New York Times in “Narrowing a Gap in the Sci-Fi Universe: One Fangirl Giving a Voice to Others”.
Ashley Eckstein, a self-described sci-fi fangirl, believes women like her are often overlooked. So several years ago she started a company to sell apparel featuring brands like Doctor Who, Star Trek and Star Wars to other fangirls. Now, believing those same women need a voice, she is expanding into publishing….
“Liking Star Wars is not a trend; it’s part of who you are,” she said, adding that she was disturbed to see women harassed for liking sci-fi and fantasy. “It was troubling to me; it was painful for fangirls.”
Mrs. Eckstein started her company, Her Universe, in 2009 after searching for a Star Wars T-shirt at a comic book convention. Unable to find anything suited for women, she instead saw an opportunity to target an overlooked consumer. Her company has since expanded from convention and Internet sales to include retail partners like Hot Topic and, starting in March, Kohl’s, which will sell a line of Her Universe active wear.
Now, Mrs. Eckstein sees another opportunity, this time as a publisher of sci-fi novels written by women. She said she got the idea after receiving unsolicited manuscripts at conventions. “Fans would hand me a book and say, ‘I wrote a story and could not get it published,’ ” she said. “I would come home with stacks of books.”
(3) NOR-CON GETS A REMATCH. Norwich’s local science fiction convention is back after a year’s hiatus.
The annual science fiction spectacular was missing from the calendar last year, but details have been announced for a revamped event in October at a larger venue and with the promise of even more for sci-fi fans to look forward to…
Mark Dean, director of Nor-Con Events Limited, said: “We’ve had a year’s break to restructure and rebrand. Due to demand we’ve moved to a larger venue at the Norfolk Showground, which will allow us to have more people, more exhibits and exhibits that will be able to move around like the Daleks and R2-D2s because we’ve got the space.”
As well as celebrities signing autographs and taking part in question and answer sessions, there will be exhibitions, demonstrations, trader stands as well as the Norwich Star Wars Club UK, comic artists and cosplay – “costume play” – groups.
This con made the “crime news” in 2013 —
When police arrived at the Norwich Sci-Fi and Film Convention on May 12 they found around a dozen fans belonging to two rival groups involved in a bitter exchange outside. The convention’s hosts, members of the Norwich Star Wars Club of the University of East Anglia, had refused entry to some fans from the rival Norwich Sci Fi Club.
The BBC reported this story under the misleading headline “Star Wars and Doctor Who fans clash at Norwich convention”
(4) CRITICS’ CHOICE. The 2016 Critics’ Choice Awards were presented at a ceremony broadcast by A&E on January 18.
Mad Max: Fury Road dominated the Film division. It was the winner in nine categories including Best Action Movie, Best Actor (Tom Hardy), Best Actress (Charlize Theron) Best Director (George Miller), and Best Visual Effects.
Inside Out won Best Animated Feature.
Ex Machina was named Best Sci-Fi/Horror Movie.
In the Television division, Mr. Robot was named Best Drama Series, and its cast members won Best Actor in a Drama Series (Rami Malek) and Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series (Christian Slater).
Outlander was selected as the Best Binge-Worthy Show.
Big Bang Theory’s Mayim Bialik received the award for Best Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series.
Also, Rachel Bloom of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend won Best Actress in a Comedy Series. (File 770 keeps track of her successes because of the Hugo-nominated Ray Bradbury music video she did back in the day.) Popsugar reports:
After the Golden Globes and the Critics’ Choice Awards, you should know who Rachel Bloom is. The star of The CW’s Crazy Ex-Girlfriend took home the Critics’ Choice Award for her role on the musical comedy on Sunday. She was clearly shocked to be taking home yet another award,…
(5) ADAMS OBIT. Television’s Grizzly Adams, actor Dan Haggerty, died January 15 at the age of 73. His New York Times obituary lists horror movies he made late in his career — Terror Night (1987), Elves (1989) — playing an alcoholic mall Santa — and Axe Giant: The Wrath of Paul Bunyan (2013).
(6) SCOTTY WOULD APPROVE. A Guardian story tells us, “Star Trek stars endorse SNP’s bid to establish Europe’s first spaceport”.
The Star Trek stars William Shatner and George Takei have backed the Scottish National party’s ambition to establish Europe’s first spaceport in the UK.
The SNP MP Philippa Whitford led a debate in the House of Commons on Thursday on the future of the UK space industry, which she concluded by giving the Vulcan salute. The MP made the case for a spaceport to be established in her constituency of Central Ayrshire….
Welcoming the SNP debate, the actor William Shatner, Star Trek’s Captain James T Kirk, issued a statement that was read out to MPs: “Space is one of the last known frontiers mostly untouched by mankind and his politics. In opening a debate on this subject, my hope is you take the tenets of Star Trek’s prime directive to universally and peacefully share in the exploration of it. I wish you all a wonderful debate. My best, Bill.”
George Takei, Star Trek’s Lieutenant Sulu, tweeted his support: “I wish the SNP and the House of Commons well on their debate about their space program tomorrow. #WhereNoBritHasGoneBefore
(7) TODAY IN HISTORY
- January 18, 2008 — After much secrecy, Cloverfield makes its theatrical debut. An Easter egg in the movie has the sea monster from The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, which was based on Ray Bradbury’s short story The Foghorn appearing in the driver side mirror of one of the cars.
(8) TODAY’S BIRTHDAY BOY
- Born January 18, 1882 — A.A. Milne.
(9) TRUE BLUE. The Cirque du Soleil is doing a new show in the Avatar universe.
It’s been six years in the making, and now Cirque du Soleil’s “Toruk” is setting up camp in North American stadiums, bringing audiences the magical world of the moon Pandora and its inhabitants from James Cameron’s blockbuster “Avatar.” …
The story of “Toruk” is set 3,000 years before “Avatar,” long before humans set foot on Pandora. It tells of a quest to find the mysterious creature Toruk, the only one who can save the sacred Tree of Souls from destruction
(10) THE SIMPSONS. Despite the Huffington Post’s clickbait headline, neither David Bowie nor Alan Rickman appeared in this 2013 episode of The Simpsons, however, what Benedict Cumberbatch does in the clip makes it worth 60 seconds of your time —
In the parody film Bart watches, a Hugh Grant-version of the Prime Minister, who is voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch, proclaims his love for a lower class lady named Eliza Commonbottom.
The two kiss, and a Pandora’s box of silly British pop cultural references is opened, which includes one of Rickman’s most famed portrayals, Snape (whom Cumberbatch also voiced), and a Bowie-penned song ‘All the Young Dudes’.
Oh, and there’s a ‘Doctor Who’ reference in the form of a TARDIS for good measure too – obviously.
[Thanks to John King Tarpinian, Hampus Eckerman, Andrew Porter, and David Doering for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day, myself…]
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@Tintinaus You probably know this, but Amazon gives publishers that option (free or discounted ebooks with a dead-tree purchase).
They’re putting fluoride in my Heinlein.
Will,
No I didn’t. Thanks. I must admit to avoiding Amazon.
I try to get my dead-trees from local stores as often as I can. Trying to support the little guy etc.
There were bugs and troopers so for Hollywood that is pretty recognizable.
Notable SFF misses – this could be a huge list
At the Mountains of Madness (Sam Neil)
John Carter of Mars (I liked it)
Many Phillip K Dick Stories
Frankenstein (Aaron Eckhart)
…
(I should be sleeping not commenting so I am going to stop there)
I believe this is probably referring to the recounting of the discussions for SP2 / SP3 where LC and the ELE talked down VD from doing something worse (I forget what it was exactly and it was not very specific about what was prevented if I recall)
To me the better response would be to join the rest of WSFS and join in rejecting the ballot stuffing that was being done. SP3 could have been much less divisive with better leadership than BT.
:: godstalk ::
Tintinaus on January 20, 2016 at 12:46 am said:
I have long felt you should be able to go to a publishers website post a proof of purchase for a dead-tree and get a free download of the same.
Publishers that are signed up with BitLit do allow it. I’m not sure if any of the big 5 are, but I know that ChiZine is.
Rev. Bob on January 20, 2016 at 1:00 am said: If you think the treatment Starship Troopers got was bad, I’d hate to see what you think of the hatchet job they did on Friday…
To say nothing of The Rolling Stones. I don’t remember that rubbery-lipped fellow being in the book at all…
Shambles: I believe this is probably referring to the recounting of the discussions for SP2 / SP3 where LC and the ELE talked down VD from doing something worse
Ah, yes, that would be the pre-RP-slate-announcement collusion which Torgersen repeatedly denied had occurred, but about which all the Sad Puppies are now bragging.
Rev. Bob: If you think the treatment Starship Troopers got was bad, I’d hate to see what you think of the hatchet job they did on Friday…
I was going, “Wait, what??? How did I miss a movie version of that book?”
Cuberolling — the new trend which is replacing Rickrolling.
The individual scenes in Starship Troopers were very different from the book, yes. But the government and political system was very recognizable. It was just presented by someone who didn’t have the warm fuzzies about, or didn’t assume they’d automatically be on the good side of, military rule. Thus, your going to have a different feel than the novel, written by someone who had both those assumptions of where they’d be under the men on horseback.
It has to be an improvement. I think people are finally realising that rickrolling is highly problematic
http://boingboing.net/2015/05/28/rickrolling-is-sexist-racist.html
Ray: It has to be an improvement. I think people are finally realising that rickrolling is highly problematic.
I can’t say I agree with that; I think that there’s a lot of projecting going on in that article. Here’s a response deconstructing those claims.
I do not recall a time when authors and fans were more eager to engage with Lovecraft. Ruthana Emrys narrowly missed the Hugo shortlist with her take on the subject because of the SP. and is in the process of putting together two novels. Matt Ruff has a novel out shortly invoking the mythos as does Victor LaValle. Charles Stross has been pumping out stuff on the theme for awhile now as has the likes of Ellen Datlow. He is at the heart of the zeitgeist. Sometimes it seems impossible to move without tripping over an author In conversation with the Lovecraft canon. Suppressed? Hardly! Admired or reviled he is now essential reading for anyone who wants an informed opinion on modern speculative fiction.
@Simeon Beresford
Not to mention Jeff Vandermeer.
OK, I’ve only read the first of the Southern Reach books, but it sure reminded me of At The Mountains Of Madness.
Simeon Beresford: Sometimes it seems impossible to move without tripping over an author In conversation with the Lovecraft canon. Suppressed? Hardly.
Paula Guran’s had a couple of Cthulhu anthologies out in the last few years, and there are a lot of other recent Lovecraft homages and extensions as well.
@Simeon
And of course the anime Nyarko: Crawling With Love!, giving us an insight into the true nature of the creatures in the Mythos.
@Shambles – In The Mouth Of Madness, surely? Rather than Mountains? Lovecraftian in the extreme, yes, but not an adaptation. Underrated, too, I think. Like the Starship Troopers film, appropriately, very darkly funny.
@JJ -I’M NOT CLICKING THAT.
@Jim Henley
That’s interesting. But the problem for me is I find the inconsistency in the voice of the Narrator (presumably the older, wiser Moorcock writing the memoir). Yes, there are times he decries the foolish actions of his younger self, but then only a few pages later he’s defending himself vigorously or recounting again how awesome he was. It really does, to me at least, read like the autobiography of someone who isn’t really that self-aware.
And if it were merely an autobiography and not a novel, I’d assume that’s exactly what it was. But since it’s actually fiction and written by an expert experimental novelist, I’m having a hard time figuring out if he is intentionally going meta by writing an un-self-aware fictional autobiography where even the Narrator of the piece is a fictional device he’s using to comment on the silliness of unenlightened celebrity hagiographies and dialing it up to eleven by making himself the literal hero and savior of a fantastical Secret London. Or is he just not that great at facing what a colossal jerk he was way back when?
I guess it all comes down to this. After reading the novel it felt a bit like a joke and the joke was on him. But I can’t tell if he’s actually in on the joke or not.
Eh, maybe that’s part of the point of the thing.
Re: used bookstores. The used bookstore that had been business for nearly 40 years closed last fall; it was one of the few trade-a-book-for-a-buck used bookstores left around here. There’s another used bookstore literally three minutes from my house, but they give you credit and a discount for turn-ins. It’s not the simple $1/1book the Book Bin ran.
I lived in Ann Arbor and Ypsilant back in the 90s and early 00s, and I’m afraid to see if any of the used bookstores are still open. I believe David’s went online only. I believe Dawn Treader is still open, doubt the Wooden Spoon is.
In Ypsilant, Cross Street Books was a favorite. A literal fire-hazard (the owner was warned by the local FD several times), you could barely take a step anywhere because of all the books piled everywhere.
I snagged some rare finds in all of these.
Currently clearing out the backlog of books picked up last summer, interspaced with continuing Andre Norton’s bibliography. On The Book of Andre Norton, to be followed by Resnick’s Tales of the Velvet Comet #1: Eros Ascending.
Silvia Moreno-Garcia runs a whole micro-press based on Lovecraft (and she’s a Mexican-Canadian who is very aware of his racist tendencies.) Their latest release is a women-write-Lovecraft anthology: She Walks In Shadows
Nigel wrote:
You are correct ! I thought was an adaptation but actually the title is just a play on At the Mountains of Madness.
Tintinaus Get Off My Lawn or I’ll Destroy SF!
ROTFL I needed that laugh
Amazon allows publishers to do what’s called “matchbook pricing”. If you ever bought the hard copy at Amazon a publisher can price the ebook for you at between $0.00-2.99. I think this may still be in beta in US only. I see more indies participating than the big 5. Within the big 5 it’s more individual imprint or possibly individual editors or authors.
I hope more publishing houses will jump on this and find a better way of proof of purchase not linked to individual retailer. I hope more online retailers will offer this working with publishing houses to implement.
@Rev Bob
I’m enjoying your shelving progress updates. Thanks for sharing.
Lovecraft
I’m not into most of the the original or derivative stuff I’ve read (not much). But last year I backed C is for Cthulhu alphabet book and gave copies to 2 families who are into him and one copy to my grandnephew who I’m hoping to turn onto reading. I hope to get the plushies soon to pass along although they were cute & I might decide to keep the purple one.
Tintinaus: Get Off My Lawn or I’ll Destroy SF!
Suggested tweak: “Get Off My Lawn! I’m Destroying SF!”
Then there’s the Spanish phrase/euphemism that went flitting through my head, “tercer edad”, that resulted in
“SF in the Third Age”
in which I admit SF destruction is notably absent, but still.
Tintinaus said:
With a red hat!
I rather like Get Off My Lawn or I’ll Destroy SF! too.
@Nicole:
Hmm. There’s something about that… “Golden Years vs. the Golden Age”?
@Tasha:
I’m glad you like them. I do try to make the shelving updates entertaining but true – for instance, I really did find my copy of Penguins of Madacascar shelved under P-for-Penguin-standalone instead of M-for-Madagascar-series. It’s a way of taking my mind off of the labor involved. I’m not as limber as I used to wish I was, and getting at the bottom shelves involves not just bending down and moving stuff around, but dodging a couple of pieces of furniture. Then there’s the dust…
Right now, the living room is dominated by half a dozen stacks of Blu-rays and DVDs, sitting menacingly atop one plastic tote while another awaits its turn to carry the load of the existing Row Eight. Meanwhile, I’ve got the index in an old PDA, and I’ve been using that to track things that should be on the shelf (and sometimes aren’t) versus things I need to move (Independence Day is a series now, not a standalone) and unexpected discoveries. I do have a grabber I can use to get at some of the really hard-to-reach places, which is something. It doesn’t work all that well, but at least it’s unwieldy. 🙂
The Row Eight update is likely to be the last in the series, as that’s the bottom row in the big wall. Progress from there should be pretty boring. Check a stack against the index, file it in a drawer, and move along. Not a lot of room for adventure there.
@Nicole Get Off My Lawn! I’m Destroying SF!
That ones kinda scary. Is the neighborhood about to explode? The stories in this one have to be high on the action/blowing up stuff.
@Rev Bob
So your adding: Golden Years Destroys(ing) SFF to the hat?
Here I expect much gentler stores. LMB’s just “printed and put up for sale on non-Baen sites*” Gentleman Jolie… would fit right in.
*fondly remembers the days when published was an easy word. Back before the Internet existed. I was just out of high school. It was 1985…
@quinchan at 06:49 am:
On used bookstores in the Ann Arbor area: David’s Books had a complicated last few years. It was displaced from its original location when a Potbelly Sandwich Shop took the old Discount Records site (where Iggy Pop worked!); when the lease ran out on the second location in 2011, the owner closed the store.
Dawn Treader still looks to be going strong, to my non-professional gaze. Wooden Spoon seems to have closed.
As you expected, the fire marshal eventually caught up with Cross Street Books in Ypsilanti in 2014, and it is closed.
However, Ann Arbor has a couple of new used book stores. Motte & Bailey specializes in a very good selection of academic and non-fiction titles (next to the People’s Food Co-op). Aunt Agatha’s does both new and used mysteries. With those two stores plus new-book independent Literati all in easy strolling distance, the Fourth Avenue corridor is becoming the book place. Also close is the AADL Friends Book Shop, a tiny little pocket space with some nice selections which raises a little money for the library.
(And I feel a little sad because I’m mostly about e-books now. Ann Arbor used to be one of America’s leading book towns.)
As long as I’m blathering locally — should I look for any of you at ConFusion this coming weekend? I’m emerging briefly from gafia to see Ann Leckie.
Nigel: @JJ -I’M NOT CLICKING THAT.
Never Gonna Pixel You Up, Never Gonna Scroll You Down;
Never Gonna Filk Around or Rickroll You
JJ: 😀
@Filers in general: fascinating discussion on the _____ Destroy SF, with debates about titles (personal responses: Geezer is irredeemably male in my idiolect; I use Crone myself and have for some time [my mother claims I was a little old lady from birth though I’ve always been a bit nervous to ask her why she says that], and my current hair color is in fact blue…..and teal and green and pink and purple in very bright anime like colors, heh heh heh).
I’m wondering if beyond the naming problems (and ageism, yes, in the culture), one of the problems I’m having with it is that unlike the others (women destroy sf, queers destroy sf, POC destroy sf), nobody is saying that people of a certain age or older are destroying sf……..or are they and I’ve missed it?
Since I’ve never heard any claim remotely like that, the title lacks resonance for me (though I’d sooooooo kick in for that anthology and read it for older characters–speaking of which Elizabeth Moon’s _Remnant Population_ is one of the best/earliest ones, highly recommended).
My personal fave of the suggestions was “Get off my lawn or I’ll destroy sf”
@robinareid
My personal opinion. Few books IMHO portray older protagonist. I’ve mentioned in the past talk about Boomer Lit. We do discuss intersectionality. There is the obvious ageism. If older writers would retire (or ask not to be nominated) it would open up spaces for younger authors. Yes I’ve heard both of those but no I can’t cite my sources so it must have been an in-person casual conversation or something said in comments on someone’s blog.
So maybe? The authors may not be as invisible but characters certainly are. I don’t know if a survey were done of authors who stopped writing if ageism would be a cause. On the one hand it seems less likely and all of us can point to a handful of bestsellers in their 60s, 70s, possibly 80s. But midlisters who’ve been hit hard in general. I’m not close enough to that portion of the author population to know.
Unconscious bias is unconscious. Confirmation bias confirms. If as authors get older they want to write about older protagonist and publishers know readers aren’t interested…
robinareid asked:
You’ve missed the entire Puppy War and much of the conversation over diversity, then! It is quite common to describe real or imagined ideological opponents in the sf community as the elderly revenants of a less civilized age, and to express hope that things will improve when they hurry up and die.
The most common species of this argument occurs when pushing for diversity or codes of conduct, where any opposition is attributed to old fans unable to handle the recently-arrived incoming tide of women, POC, LGBT people, or what have you. (Thus erasing decades of documented presence of these groups in fandom, in addition to the ageism.)
The Puppies have of course been compared to the stereotype of the elderly white reactionary; the Puppy counterargument at times has included characterizing their opponents as a band of aging hippies who political correctness will die out with. It’s a game any number can play!
I would totally buy an anthology of stories about older protagonists. Some of the ones I’ve read recently have been lots of fun.
_A Key, An Egg, An Unfortunate Remark_, and _Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen_ pop to mind as examples. (Note to a couple of people upthread; it’s Gentleman Jole, not Gentleman Jolie.) To a lesser extent, _The Curse of Chalion_ and _Paladin of Souls_ would qualify, I think. And if I remember correctly _Remnant Population_ by Elizabeth Moon as well, though that one is fairly old.
But they aren’t thick on the ground and I’d like to see more.
@Cat:
There’s always the Old Man’s War universe.
Re: older sff protagonists, Catherine Lundoff has put together (and periodically updates) a list of sff with older female protagonists (defined rather generously as 40 and older). Part 1 (authors A-M) and Part 2 (authors N-Z). Note that while the list is for female protagonists, all authorial genders are included.
I have always used “geezerettes” as the feminine form. But “Old People Destroy SF” is a nice, neutral, inclusive form. Or “Senior Citizens Destroy SF”. “Elderly Writers Destroy SF”. Or just go whole hog with “Get Off My Lawn! I’m Destroying SF!” 65 seems like a good age.
I would also purchase “Men Destroy Romance” as well as “Women Destroy Thrillers” (or Ripping Yarns, or Men’s Fiction, or The Stuff Wot Argosy Used To Print).
How about “These Kids Today Destroy SF!” and nobody over 30 is allowed to submit?
I was under the impression that calling a Portuguese person “Spanish” means you were being very insulting and would get told off vehemently at the least, and punched heartily (or perhaps, per JCW’s go-to, beaten with a tire iron) at worst. For, like, CENTURIES. It doesn’t much matter, since, being Western European, both are equally white. And anyone who doesn’t think both Teddy and Lovecraft write racist things has a very poor grasp of the English language.
There is no way I or anyone I know is paying the same price for a hardback and an ebook. Last year when The Dread Scalzi’s latest came out, Amazon sold the ebook for four cents MORE than the hardback. So guess which one I bought? Yes, I had to wait till afternoon mail delivery instead of getting it at midnight, but I had a real live book in my hands which I was able to resell to the used book store (ooh! another topic!). Scalzi, Tor, and Amazon got paid, I read the book, I recouped part of the money, someone else can get the hardback cheaper, the bookstore makes money, we all win, yay capitalism, God Bless America.
Wait a minute. I’ve got it: Age Destroys SF.
As for Men Destroy Romance, isn’t that just another way to say “the Super Bowl’s this weekend” or “I forgot [special occasion]”? 😛
@Rev Bob
Have an Internet. I think you’ve got it.
No, no, no. But yes I expect the title will confuse people. I did try Men Destroy Paranormal Romance but no one showed any interest. Maybe it’s the confusion over what’s UF vs PNR or it’s not as fun a title…
*looks at the list* No one’s read Lynn Abbey’s Orion’s Children books, really?
@Tasha:
I’ve had the most delightful Twitter conversations with Dakota Cassidy over her “Accidentals” series being comic UF (my position) vs. PNR (hers). It’s good-natured fun, of course. I just love playing on the idea that since I’m reading the books and I’m a guy, obviously they can’t be PNR. After all, everybody knows Real Men don’t read PNR, right? 😉
Matthew,
Thanks for more good info. Two good leads in one thread… Does that make me one of the lucky 100?
Nicole,
I very much approve of your suggested tweek. 🙂
I Shall Wear a Red Hat as I Destroy Science Fiction
@ iphinome
It’s a crowd-sourced list and growing all the time. Recommend them!
It would break the naming pattern, but SF Gets Off Their Lawn.
Great book with two older female protagonists missing from Lundoff’s list: Our Lady of the Islands, by Shannon Page and Jay Lake.
And We Would Have Had SF If It Weren’t For Those Meddling Kids!
(No one ever mentions the talking dog. Why is that?)
Petréa Mitchell: Great book with two older female protagonists missing from Lundoff’s list: Our Lady of the Islands, by Shannon Page and Jay Lake.
Actually, it’s there — but under Page, rather than Lake.
And yes, it’s a great book — although I still think the way that subjects attain “godhood” is bizarre and doesn’t really work for me.
*looks at the list* No one’s read Lynn Abbey’s Orion’s Children books, really?
I have them but haven’t read them yet.