Pixel Scroll 12/13 Twenty Thousand Links Under the Sea

(1) MOVIE MEME. Mari Ness’ contribution brought the #ExplainAFilmPlotBadly meme to my attention…

Some others –

https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/status/676098003741052928

https://twitter.com/TheFienPrint/status/676155312173408258

https://twitter.com/markmcdsnp/status/676127648976920576

https://twitter.com/kraker2k/status/676121261366489088

(2) THINGS TO DO. Mary Robinette Kowal, who uses Habitica as a productivity tool, invites others get the benefit by participating in her guild, “Ink Slingers”

For science-fiction and fantasy writers and editors who are actively working in the field and trying to improve craft. But who also need peer pressure to be productive.

We have some challenges with habits and dailies that you might find helpful.

The way Habitica works is that you break the things you ought to be doing into three types of things.

  1. Habits: which are things you ought to do, but not necessarily on a regular basis. Like “3 minute stretch break.”
  2. Dailies: which you do regularly. Like “Write three sentences.”
  3. To-Dos: which are one time things. Like “Complete revisions for episode 2.”

To use it, you need to create a Habitica account first, then join Ink Slingers.

(3) WENDIG. Locus Online has an excerpt of its interview with Chuck Wendig.

“We’re either moving toward evolution or the ruination of humanity. There’s an angel and a devil. Both of those are manifest in every single technical jump we make. Which one of these do we bet on? Are we going to destroy ourselves with technology, with a nuclear bomb? Or are we going to get nuclear energy? Even a knife can be used to feed my family, or to kill you and take your food. Even the simplest, tiniest technology has a massive polarizing effect on humanity.”

(4) MAXAM PASSES AWAY. SF Site News reports Bay Area fan Felice Maxam died December 1. Maxam, then Felice Rolfe, participated in the Society for Creative Anachronism from the beginning. She was present at its first Tournament in 1966. She also belonged to the Peninsula SF Association in those days. Co-editor of Niekas with Ed Meskys, she was nominated for two Hugo Awards, and won the Best Fanzine Hugo in 1967.

(5) FUTURE OF EASTERCON. Caroline Mullan is publicizing the Future of Eastercon questionnaire one more time. By Novacon, 207 responses had come in. Another 40 have been submitted since. “We’re mailing round to see if there is anyone else out there who would still like to fill it in before we have another go over the responses,” she says.

The Eastercon Options website has been busy over the last month — here are some of the most interesting posts.

Questionnaire Press Release

A questionnaire was open on the website during October 2015. We had 207 responses, about half from people who do not usually attend Eastercon bidding sessions…. https://eastercon.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/novacon-presentation.pdf

What are the issues?

At the Novacon presentation, someone in the audience asked for a general restatement of what problems we’re trying to solve here. We have a number of problems, some more significant than others, some are not problems at the moment but may well become so. It’s fairly obvious from the results of the questionnaire, that we also have a whole bunch of problems that we didn’t really consider to be problems at all, until we started asking questions….

Communication

Fans are often bad about communication. We tend to be rubbish about talking to other people, and even worse about understanding them when they talk back. That’s a bit strange for a subculture that is largely based around forms of communication, from letters to fanzines to films to blogs to conversations and panels at conventions. Historically though, the record of fans communicating, misunderstanding each other, followed by “all Fandom plunged into war” is pretty consistent. So it’s no surprise that here we are in 2015 and the results from our questionnaire show that we’re still doing a lousy job. I’d like to understand why, though the folly of doing this through the act of communicating via yet another written medium has not escaped me….

(6) Today’s Birthday Boy

  • Born December 13, 1925 – Dick Van Dyke

Fans help Dick Van Dyke kick-off his birthday weekend celebration with a flash mob at The Grove in Los Angeles on December 12, 2015.

(7) SITH STATUARY. The BBC profile “The Man Who Turned Lenin Into Darth Vader” tells about Ukranian sculptor Alexander Milov, who got the Odessa city council to allow him to turn a Lenin statue they were threatening to melt down into a Darth Vader statue. It even has free Wi-Fi!

To create his new sculpture, Milov strengthened the original structure and added a helmet and cape made out of titanium alloy – he also inserted a Wi-Fi router in Vader’s head. Despite the statue’s apparent glibness, it serves as a reminder that we can’t control which memories last and which don’t. “I wanted to make a symbol of American pop culture which appears to be more durable than the Soviet ideal.”

(8) COOKING FOR WHO. Chris-Rachael Oseland, author of Dining with the Doctor (recipes inspired by Doctor Who), is interviewed by Salon in “Geek food for the geek soul: ‘As society gets increasingly secular, we need to fill the social void’”.

Oseland will bring out a second edition of her Dr. Who book next year, as well as “Geek Breads,” which includes the “Dune” recipe. If you’ve seen the image of a “Dune” sandworm made of bread that went viral last week, that’s her work….

So it came out of your interest in history, more than fiction or something?

Yes – and I think that’s reflected in most of my cookbooks. “An Unexpected Cookbook,” my hobbit one, is a straight-up history cookbook: It’s all recipes from Tolkien’s childhood in the 1890s.

I’m doing the same thing with my Dr. Who cookbook – anytime where they go back in history, it’s an excuse for me to tuck in a few historical facts… I feel this obligation to make sure I’m historically accurate with these things.

(9) SENSE OF HISTORY. Adam-Troy Castro read Castalia House’s first two blog posts about pedophilia in sf and he challenges the relevance of its entry about David Asimov.

(10) SOUND FOOTING. Star Wars socks from Stance.

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(11) OUT OF THE BOX. This Saturday Night Live faux commercial spoofs toy collecting nerds.

(12) RUCKER RECOMMENDS. Rudy Rucker’s book picks for 2015 ends with four books from this year (the others date earlier). His enthusiasm is contagious, so brace your TBR pile for incoming….!

(10) Paul Di Filippo, A Palazzo in Space. 2015. Paul Di Filippo writes SF stories, a lot of them, and he’s had a zillion collections come out. I collaborate with him on stories sometimes, so I’m very sensitive to the pleasures of his style. He has this jovial voice and an extreme love of words, with a real knack for SF neologisms. Like one of his stories communication devices is said to be “uebertoothed.” And there’s a gang of reality hackers called Los Braceros Ultimos. In one of his stories, “Pocketful of Faces,” he gets into an insane riff about people switching their faces, storylet after storylet, topping himself over and over—its’ like watching some mad juggler. And in the denouement, someone is wearing a fake face on top of a fake face on top of their real face, and who even knows why, but it just has to happen. And the doubly buried faces is like a pale grubworm inside a rotten log. Great stuff. Write on, celestial scribe!

(11) ONE LORD A-LEAPING. Legend of Tarzan official teaser trailer.

[Thanks to John King Tarpinian, Martin Morse Wooster, and Steven H Silver for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day Brian Z.]


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207 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 12/13 Twenty Thousand Links Under the Sea

  1. So Sunday night, I finally watched the first episode of the Expanse. It was…OK. Now bear in mind, I never read the book. It also suffered heavily by following the finale of Penny Dreadful, AKA the “Bad Personal Choices” season, AKA “So I guess Gerry Anderson IS the Devil.”

    It didn’t suck. Bear this in mind. the FX were excellent, they did the best Z-G work I’ve seen outside of the ISS, and there was tons of worldbuilding (I thought the Statue of Liberty in a hole was a nice touch). But…the characters fell flat to me, where they didn’t actively annoy me.. I didn’t quite say the Eight Deadly Worlds, but if I watch more episodes, I’ll probably watch it for the FX and plot.

    Oh and hey, they fridged the girlfriend in the very first episode. Wow, I bet whathisname will have LOTS of manfeels over that.

    Bottom line? I’ll probably watch Expanse when it comes out for free, somewhere. But it definitely falls into the “Gee, I sure hope we solve this mystery” category, while Penny Dreadful is still in the “Press A! Press A! You don’t have time to smoke a bowl!” zone.

  2. Rose Embolism: Oh and hey, they fridged the girlfriend in the very first episode. Wow, I bet whathisname will have LOTS of manfeels over that.

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  3. Penny Dreadful is still in the “Press A! Press A! You don’t have time to smoke a bowl!” zone.

    Oh my god. I haven’t thought about that video in years.

    I think I hate you, just a little.

  4. @RDF: The iMDB image links you used in your first comment worked for me, FYI.

    @Bruce Baugh: Nice photo; for a split-second it looked like cats & food/water dishes were on the wall, and the food and water magically didn’t spill! 😉

    @redheadedfemme: Thanks for the tip re. Bitterwood. I have the first – not yet read, but it’s tough to resist 99 cents for the whole thing. I think that’s what I paid for the DRM’d ebook of #1 (to replace my print book; I was in an “I’m moving to ebooks” kick or something, blush), while now it’s DRM-free and 99 cents for the whole shebang. Hmmmmm. (thinking hard)

    ETA: Hmm, 105 comments, but only 2 pages + mine = 101 showing. . . .

  5. Kendall: Those IMDB links must have worked for everybody else — my stats show hundreds of outgoing hits to them, collectively.

  6. Mike Glyer: Those IMDB links must have worked for everybody else — my stats show hundreds of outgoing hits to them, collectively.

    What you’re probably seeing is hundreds of attempts to access those images and instead getting a page which says “Referral Denied”. I couldn’t see them, either.

  7. @Mike:

    That’s not necessarily true. It only means there were lots of attempts, not that any were successful. For my part, I could see the first image but none of the others.

  8. @BGHilton – Cheers, I’m looking to do something with that system, looks like I might find something to ‘borrow’ in Tarzan Alive et al.

  9. Jeezus, Bruce Baugh, that kitten photo made me start in surprise at first glance. The orientation made it look like the two kittens were standing on a vertical wall, as if they had velco paws or had been bitten by a radioactive spider.

  10. Folks, I promise you that if my cats ever do make themselves and their dishes magically cling to the wall…I’ll get pictures to share.

  11. Well, we’ll see if Mike lets this one through, since it’s a tricky one…

    “Rebel fleeing powerful Empire is saved from certain death by a couple in a spaceship, only to be recaptured by the Empire and executed by slow torture. A comedy.”

    Right – let’s see who can figure that out…

  12. See, I have this problem where whenever I watch Life of Brian, I fall asleep at that bit and wake up when he’s on the cross so it’s really prominent for me. And I have friends that don’t even remember the alien bit is even in the film.

  13. I think DC learned the wrong lesson from their success in letting the movie Batman go in a darker direction — Batman was born out of a noir tradition, so “dark” feels like a return to the roots of the character. But they seem to have thought “dark, we’ll make everybody dark, it’s all dark, SO DARK.”

    This is the lesson DC has chosen to learn, repeatedly, since the first DARK KNIGHT.

  14. Re: DC, I’m still pretending that the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm cartoons are the primary (and sometimes, depending on how annoyed I am by recent events, only) DC canon. I expect that to stay the same until they stop dunking everything else in a bucket of grim and dark colours.

    Re: Star Trek, Karl Urban continues to be the best damn thing about the new films, although based on the last one I expect he’ll spend a lot of time standing behind people acting his little heart out while having very few lines or things to do. But he’ll do a very fine job of it.

    PS. I did fine with the rot13 bits, thanks to Rev. Bob’s excellent script.

    PPS. The IMDB referral links didn’t work for me either. I wonder what makes them work for some people but not others?

    @redheadedfemme

    Thanks! Bitterwood was 99p on AmazonUK, too, so I treated myself. 🙂

    @Peace

    There’s a lovely BBC news story on people who have played bit parts in the “Star Wars” movies: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35094162

    Thanks for the link – I enjoyed that. 🙂

  15. @Meredith:

    Re: DC, I’m still pretending that the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm cartoons are the primary (and sometimes, depending on how annoyed I am by recent events, only) DC canon. I expect that to stay the same until they stop dunking everything else in a bucket of grim and dark colours.

    Same.

    And you know, JLU got plenty dark for awhile. But it wasn’t only dark.

  16. DC canon: I’m going with 90’s Batman cartoon, recent TB&TB cartoon, the first two Chris Reeve movies, Lynda Carter’s WW, and probably the new Supergirl TV show. Feh to grimdark.

    Stevie: Lessons and Carols is by far my favorite service.

  17. @Jim Henley

    And you know, JLU got plenty dark for awhile. But it wasn’t only dark.

    Exactly. Overdoing dark is just as bad as overdoing happy (although the 1966 Batman film is a delight* that I would take over any of the recent Batman trilogy, even the middle one**). I like my stories to have some balance to them.

    * The bomb scene alone!
    ** Personally I’ll take Burton’s cartoony darkness over Nolan’s mostly just boring darkness, too, but Heath Ledger did a very fine job as the Joker.

    @lurkertype

    90’s Batman is Paul Dini/Bruce Timm! 🙂 (All the 90s/early 2000s cartoons were theirs, I think, or certainly they were involved to a greater or lesser degree in all of them, with the possible exception of Teen Titans.)

    I’m considering whether Reeve’s Superman’s would work for me – I’d have to check whether they conflict with the cartoon canon, but I expect they’d fit together fine on most points. Carter’s Wonder Woman wouldn’t mesh, though, and neither would the recent Supergirl (which I haven’t seen yet). Drat, I like Wonder Woman and I think I will like Supergirl. >.>

    … Now I’m trying to figure out whether Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman fits with the Dini/Timmverse. Not having seen the New Adventures since I was in Brownie’s isn’t helping!

    Grimdark has to be truly brilliant for me to like it* (e.g. The Knife of Never Letting Go and sequels) – and even then I don’t tend to reread/rewatch it because it still isn’t fun.

    * I haven’t really tested how dragons influence this, but they weren’t enough to keep me engaged in Game of Thrones. Perhaps I’d need a quantity of dragonic involvement per grimdark happening calculation?

  18. Kurt Busiek on December 15, 2015 at 2:43 pm said:

    I think DC learned the wrong lesson from their success in letting the movie Batman go in a darker direction — Batman was born out of a noir tradition, so “dark” feels like a return to the roots of the character. But they seem to have thought “dark, we’ll make everybody dark, it’s all dark, SO DARK.”

    This is the lesson DC has chosen to learn, repeatedly, since the first DARK KNIGHT.

    I have opinions about Frank Miller’s style. DARK opinions.

  19. Meredith on December 15, 2015 at 4:16 pm said:

    Re: DC, I’m still pretending that the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm cartoons are the primary (and sometimes, depending on how annoyed I am by recent events, only) DC canon. I expect that to stay the same until they stop dunking everything else in a bucket of grim and dark colours.

    The new “Supergirl” live action show is quite good. There is a lot of depth, a lot of exploration of the theme of protection and responsibility. There are a lot of women characters who have lives and interesting dimensions.

    And it has probably the best portrayal of Jimmy Olsen I’ve ever seen.

    (caveat: I haven’t yet seen the latest episode)

    “The Flash” live action show is cheerful and optimistic and sweet, full of supportive family relationships (although season one’s arc, which I think of as “Barry Has Three Dads”, is grueling at times). The portrayal of women characters is a bit thin, but there is otherwise a lot of really good, deep interaction between characters. Some of the performances are sheer genius and there are gasp out loud moments.

    There is more depth if you are familiar with Flash canon, but you don’t have to have the background to enjoy the show.

  20. @KurtBusiek

    This is the lesson DC has chosen to learn, repeatedly, since the first DARK KNIGHT.

    Before my time, so take this with a huge grain of salt, but not DARK KNIGHT alone. I think it was the one-two combination of it and WATCHMEN, where a lot of people missed the point and wound up imitating them poorly.

    Though this seems fairly common in comics (entertainment generally?). Others that come to mind would be KINGDOM COME (where subsequent imitations *really* missed the point of the story) and AUTHORITY, which led to ridiculous escalations where the world was gonna be destroyed every other week in JLA/ Avengers/ X-Men. I think there was a point where Marvel-Washington was destroyed 3 times in a year.

    I would so buy shares in Damage Control if I lived in the MU (and avoid New York like the plague)

  21. Peace: Oh, last night’s episode was a delight! Superheroing and interpersonal stuff abound. And the ending!!! I really like the new improved James Olsen, and not just because he’s easy on the eyes (though that doesn’t hurt).

  22. This is the lesson DC has chosen to learn, repeatedly, since the first DARK KNIGHT.

    Before my time, so take this with a huge grain of salt, but not DARK KNIGHT alone. I think it was the one-two combination of it and WATCHMEN, where a lot of people missed the point and wound up imitating them poorly.

    That’s 1986 both times, so you can pick either and say “since XXX,” and you’re saying more or less the same thing. But DARK KNIGHT was earlier in the year, so…

    I think there was a point where Marvel-Washington was destroyed 3 times in a year.

    Unless that was after I destroyed it (well, killed the vast majority of the inhabitants, left most of the buildings standing), I don’t think so — I’m pretty sure I’d have noticed.

    I think I’m the only Marvel writer to drop a space station on Gaithersburg, MD, at least.

  23. The one thing I remember most from that first DARK period was when they took the goofy hero Animal man, killed his family, cut his hair and put a dark jacket on him, thus proclaiming him DARK.

    It was ridiculous.

  24. Kurt Busiek: I think I’m the only Marvel writer to drop a space station on Gaithersburg, MD, at least.

    Do you accept geographical commissions? I can think of a few places which would be seriously improved by that. 😉

  25. Hampus: It’s worth noting that after Buddy met his author and argued (successfully) that Morrison had made a hash of his life for no good reason, Morrison undid that. It was part of the plan.

  26. “It was sad (so sad)
    It was sad (so sad)
    It was sad when the colony came down (on Peoria)
    Husband and wives
    Little children lost their lives
    It was sad when that colony came down.”

    “Ballad of Orbital Hubris.” My favorite thing by Joe Haldeman, actually.

  27. Wild on the wind rose the righteous wrath of Maalvin,
    Borne like a brand to the burning of the Barrens.
    Arms of hands of rebels perished then,
    Stars nor moons bedecked that midnight,
    IMT made the sky Fall

    – James Blish

  28. SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE BRACKET – THIRD HEAT

    1. STARMEN
    Starman (1984)
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    2. ONE AGAINST ANOTHER
    Stalker (1979)
    Solaris (2002)

    3. HEAVY METAL OR POP MUSIC
    Cocoon (1985)
    The Hidden (1987)

    4. ON THE RUN
    ET (1982)
    The Running Man (1987)

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Cowboy Bebop (1998)
    Return of the Jedi (1983)

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Iron Man (2008)
    Total Recall (1990)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    Serenity (2005)
    The Abyss (1983)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)
    Barbarella (1968)

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Avatar (2009)
    Logan’s Run (1976)

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Fantastic Planet (1973)
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)
    Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    A Scanner Darkly (2006)
    Shaun of the Dead (2004)

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Repo Man (1984)
    Godzilla (1954)

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Strange Days (1995)
    Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Them! (1954)
    Independence Day (1996)

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Robocop (1987)
    The Fly (1958)

  29. 1. STARMEN
    Abstain

    2. ONE AGAINST ANOTHER
    Abstain

    3. HEAVY METAL OR POP MUSIC
    Abstain

    4. ON THE RUN
    ET (1982)

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Return of the Jedi (1983)

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Total Recall (1990)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    Serenity (2005)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Avatar (2009)

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Fantastic Planet (1973)

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    A Scanner Darkly (2006)

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Repo Man (1984)

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Independence Day (1996)

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Robocop (1987)

  30. SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE BRACKET – THIRD HEAT

    1. STARMEN
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    Winter Soldier is my favourite Superhero movie, and while I enjoyed Starman, it’s far from my favourite Carpenter movie

    4. ON THE RUN
    The Running Man (1987)

    The running man is silly fun. ET’s a bit more important, but I’m not a huge fan.

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Return of the Jedi (1983)

    rrrrrrrrrrgh. Jedi was one of the first films I saw in the cinema, and while I love Cowboy Bebop overall, the movie is basically a long typical episode. If this was Jedi vs the TV series I’d possibly pick Bebop.

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Iron Man (2008)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    The Abyss (1983)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Barbarella (1968)

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Logan’s Run (1976)

    Can’t stand Avatar

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    A Scanner Darkly (2006)

    This is probably the first one I needed a forehead cloth for! Scanner darkly wins by a nose, largely because I feel it’s stood up to rewatching better.

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Godzilla (1954)

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Independence Day (1996)

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Robocop (1987)

    If this was Cronenberg’s Fly I’d possibly have gone for it.

  31. SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE BRACKET – THIRD HEAT
    1. Starman (1984)
    4. ET (1982)
    5. Return of the Jedi (1983)
    6. Total Recall (1990)
    7. The Abyss (1983)
    8. Barbarella (1968)
    9. Logan’s Run (1976)
    [Avatar was lovely eye-candy & the first time I thought 3-D was done well. But the story? If it had been a book, it would have impacted the wall at furious velocity.]
    11. Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)
    12. A Scanner Darkly (2006)
    13. Godzilla (1954)
    14. Strange Days (1995)
    16. Robocop (1987)

  32. 1. Starman
    2. Solaris
    3. Cocoon
    4. The Running Man
    5. Return of the Jedi (1983)
    6. Total Recall
    7. Serenity
    9. Logan’s Run
    10. Young Frankenstein
    11. Beneath the Planet of the Apes
    12. Shaun of the Dead
    16. Robocop

    And that reminds me: did anyone think to nominate Space Cowboys? I didn’t, but I loved that movie.

  33. Lorcan Nagle:

    If this was Cronenberg’s Fly I’d possibly have gone for it.

    Haha, actually didn’t check the year before I set the title! 😀

  34. Brackett the Third:

    1. Winter Soldier.
    3. Cocoon.
    4. Argh. Honorable mention to The Running Man for Richard Dawson, and I may have to rewatch that now that I’ve seen his Hogan’s Heroes work, but E.T. takes it. Just as long as it’s not the revised-and-recanted version where the FBI agents have walkie-talkies that go “bang.”
    5. Jedi. How can I not?
    6. Total Recall.
    7. Post a heat and take my vote, but you can’t take Serenity from me.
    8. Forbidden Planet, for the RHPS tie-in and being at least marginally less silly than Boobarella.
    9. Logan’s Run, if someone my age is still allowed to vote for it.
    10. Young Frankenstein, as if there could be any doubt.
    11. Bill and Ted and George and the not-a-TARDIS, honest! I still remember the cereal.
    12. Shaun of the Dead.
    13. Godzilla.
    14. ST: First Contact, or I’ll break your little ships.
    15. Independence Day, and not just because the office is closed for the rest of the year.
    16. Damn your eyes! (Six places too late, sez Marty.) Sorry, Vincent, but I’ve gotta go with RoboCop by a nose. Or by a skillfully twirled pistol…

  35. JJ:

    “And that reminds me: did anyone think to nominate Space Cowboys? I didn’t, but I loved that movie.”

    No. It didn’t get any nominations at all.

  36. 1. STARMEN
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    2. ONE AGAINST ANOTHER

    abstain, haven’t seen this Tarkovsky either. Only read the book this year, and now would love to see what was done with it

    3. HEAVY METAL OR POP MUSIC

    abstain, haven’t seen the hidden

    4. ON THE RUN

    I’d vote against both. Spielberg is too manipulative, the Schwarzenegger just too stupid

    5. SPACE COWBOYS

    another abstention, haven’t seen the cowboy

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Total Recall (1990)

    ooh, a close one. Have to give it to Total Recall, for being more willing to fuck with the audience

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    The Abyss (1983)

    Wins by default, Serenity was such a disappointment

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Barbarella (1968)

    Ha! Who can resist Jane Fonda?

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Logan’s Run (1976)

    another win by default. I still haven’t watched more than 30 minutes of Avatar, I get bored

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    If you’re blue
    And you don’t know where to go to…

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)
    Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)

    abstain, too different to rank

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    A Scanner Darkly (2006)

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK

    abstain, neither means much to me

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Strange Days (1995)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Them! (1954)

    Default? The two sweetest words in the English language!

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Robocop (1987)

    I’ll buy that for a dollar!
    (oh come on, someone had to say it)

  37. SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE BRACKET – THIRD HEAT

    4. ON THE RUN
    E.T. (1982)

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Total Recall (1990)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Avatar (2009)

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)

    Partially voting against “Bill & Ted.”

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Independence Day (1996)

  38. 1. STARMEN
    Starman (1984)
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    4. ON THE RUN
    ET (1982)
    The Running Man (1987)

    ET was a bit manipulative, but….

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Cowboy Bebop (1998)
    Return of the Jedi (1983)

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Iron Man (2008)
    Total Recall (1990)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    Serenity (2005)
    The Abyss (1983)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)
    Barbarella (1968)

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Avatar (2009)
    Logan’s Run (1976)

    Haven’t seen Avatar, but it just about has to be better than Logan’s Run.

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Fantastic Planet (1973)
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    Fantastic Planet was cool (at least, my youthful memories of it are that it was cool…it’s been a long time) but Young Frankenstein is a classic.

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)
    Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)

    Not a big fan of Bill & Ted, but less of one of the apes.

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    A Scanner Darkly (2006)
    Shaun of the Dead (2004)

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Repo Man (1984)
    Godzilla (1954)

    Tough one. I was a big Godzilla fan as a kid. But Repo Man is hilarious.

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Strange Days (1995)
    Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Them! (1954)
    Independence Day (1996)

  39. 2. Stalker (1979)
    4. ET (1982)
    5. Return of the Jedi (1983)
    6. Total Recall (1990)
    7. The Abyss (1983)
    13. Godzilla (1954)
    15. Independence Day (1996)
    16. The Fly (1958)

  40. 1. STARMEN
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    2. ONE AGAINST ANOTHER
    Solaris (2002)

    3. HEAVY METAL OR POP MUSIC
    Abstain, haven’t seen The Hidden and Cocoon was a bit meh.

    4. ON THE RUN
    ET (1982)

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Return of the Jedi (1983)

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Iron Man (2008)
    Total Recall (1990)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    Serenity (2005)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)

    Not so much because I can resist Jane Fonda but because I just think it is a better and more influential film.

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Logan’s Run (1976)

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    Shaun of the Dead (2004)

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Abstain

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Strange Days (1995)

    I loved that film.

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Them! (1954)

    Rage vote against ID

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Robocop (1987)

  41. 1. STARMEN
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    2. ONE AGAINST ANOTHER
    Solaris (2002)

    There’s Tarkovsky I love, but I fell asleep during Stalker. Meanwhile, I think the 2002 Solaris is underrated.

    3. HEAVY METAL OR POP MUSIC
    Pass

    4. ON THE RUN
    The Running Man (1987)

    I guess, since there isn’t an ability to vote “meh”.

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Return of the Jedi (1983)

    Is The Empire Strikes Back on the list? I can’t remember, and if the other two are on but not that one, that’s weird.

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Iron Man (2008)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    Tie

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)

    Really love this film.

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Logan’s Run (1976)

    Logan’s Run was OK. That puts it leagues ahead of Avatar.

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    Actually a pretty brilliant movie.

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Pass

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    Tie

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Repo Man (1984)

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Pass

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Pass

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Pass

  42. 1. STARMEN
    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

    2. ONE AGAINST ANOTHER
    Solaris (2002)

    3. HEAVY METAL OR POP MUSIC
    Cocoon (1985)

    4. ON THE RUN
    ET (1982)

    5. SPACE COWBOYS
    Cowboy Bebop (1998)

    6. BLUE SKIES
    Total Recall (1990)

    7. OUT OF THEIR DEPTH
    Serenity (2005)

    8. WHAT’S A BATHING SUIT?
    Forbidden Planet (1956)

    9. WELCOME HUMANS! I AM READY FOR YOU
    Avatar (2009)

    10. STRANGE CREATURES
    Young Frankenstein (1974)

    11. MONKEYING AROUND
    Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure (1989)

    12. MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS
    Shaun of the Dead (2004)

    13. ONLY ONE FITS IN A TRUNK
    Godzilla (1954)

    14. THE SUM OF ALL THE RAGE AND HATE FELT BY HIS WHOLE RACE
    Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

    15. THREATS TO CIVILISATION
    Them! (1954)

    16. MERGING WITH A MACHINE
    Robocop (1987)

  43. Kyra:

    “Is The Empire Strikes Back on the list? I can’t remember, and if the other two are on but not that one, that’s weird.”

    It is on the list.

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