Pixel Scroll 5/3/16 The Seven Pixel Scrollution

(1) JEOPARDY! Funny how fandom has gone from being the contestants to being the answers…. On the May 3 episode of Jeopardy! one of the answers was —

In A Storm of Swords, he acknowledged “Phyllis, who made me put the dragons in it.”

The correct question would be “Who is George R.R. Martin?” But the clue is Phyllis Eisenstein.

Martin discussed this on a panel at Chicon 7 in 2012.

The dragons were one aspect that I did consider not including. Very early in the process, I was debating, should I do this just as like historical fiction about fake history, and have no actually overt magic or magical elements, but — my friend Phyllis Eisenstein, a wonderful fantasy writer who lives here in Chicago, I happened to be talking to her at very early stage in the process. Phyllis has written some great fantasies herself. She said, “Nah, you have to have dragons. It’s a fantasy, you know!” And I dedicated A Storm of Swords to Phyllis, who made me put the dragons in, and I think that was the right thing to do.

(2) TERMS OF UNDEARMENT. Kukuruyo’s image of Ms. Marvel has been pulled from DeviantArt. And on his own site, the Project Wonderful ads have been pulled on the page that displays the image. Did he violate the Terms Of Service?

https://twitter.com/kukuruyo/status/727512929415864320

(3) OFF THE CHARTS. The map found in illustrator Pauline Baynes’ copy of The Lord of the Rings has a new home reports The Guardian — “Tolkien annotated map of Middle-earth acquired by Bodleian library”.

Here be dragons – and wolves, bears, witches, camels, elephants, orcs, elves and hobbits.

A map of Middle-earth, which to generations of fans remains the greatest fantasy world ever created, heavily annotated by JRR Tolkien, has been acquired by the Bodleian library in Oxford to add to the largest collection in the world of material relating to his work, including the manuscripts of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy.

The annotations, in green ink and pencil, demonstrate how real his creation was in Tolkien’s mind: “Hobbiton is assumed to be approx at latitude of Oxford,” he wrote.

(4) CLIMB EVERY MOUNTAIN. BBC News has a story about a a member of the 501st climbing England’s highest mountain. A Star Wars fan who walked to the tops of Snowdon and Ben Nevis while dressed as a stormtrooper plans to tackle England’s tallest mountain.

Ashley Broomhall hopes to make the trek on Wednesday, the date of which – May the fourth- is often linked to the Star Wars phrase “May the force…”

He will wear his stormtrooper armour for the walk up 3,208ft (978m) Scafell Pike in the Lake District.

(5) AMAZONIAN TOSSER. Heather Rose Jones “tosses a little numbers-geekery” at the question of what it means for a book to have only really really good reviews on Amazon. (Spoiler: She says it means your book isn’t getting out enough.)

You know who has spent a very long time in the top 10 books sold in Historical Fantasy? Diana Gabaldon’s Outlander. Do you know how many one-star reviews Outlander has on Amazon? 749. Seven hundred and forty-fucking-nine one-star reviews (4% of the total). No book is universally beloved.

(6) CHINA BOUND. Martin L. Shoemaker posted his good news on Facebook:

Now that the contract has been signed, I am very honored to announce that “Today I Am Paul” will appear in Science Fiction World, the Chinese science fiction magazine, as part of their new series of Hugo/Nebula nominees.

(7) CROWDFUNDING AEROSPACE HISTORIAN. You can support Dr. Jim Busby by helping fund his travel to Spacefest VII.

Help Us Keep Our Aerospace Heritage Alive

From June 9 – 12 2016 Spacefest VII , a reunion of legendary NASA astronauts, engineers, famous space scientists, authors, astronomers, space artists, and fans produced by Novaspace, will be held in Tucson, AZ.

Dr. Jim Busby Aerospace Historian, educator and board member of Aerospace Legacy Foundation (ALF) in Downey, CA has been invited to be a guest lecturer and to do a memorabilia display. Unfortunately, ALF being a small non-profit organization cannot afford to send Dr. Busby, his wife and other members of the organization to Tucson. That is why we are turning to aerospace enthusiasts to help fund this trip. Dr. Jim Busby’s extensive knowledge of aerospace history has educated many over the years. In 1978 he helped create the world’s first Apollo lunar reenactments and worked at the California Science center for 19 years.

“I enjoy educating children and adults in our long fascination with space exploration,” Busby commented. “Inspiring children when I talk about Apollo lunar exploration is an experience beyond words.”

The GoFundMe has raised $645 of its $2,500 goal at this writing.

(7) JURY DUTY. Mary Anne Mohanraj announced on Facebook that jurors are needed to review grant applications for Speculative Literature Foundation.

JURORS NEEDED: The Speculative Literature Foundation is looking for ten volunteer jurors willing to read applications (a few pages each, including a writing sample) over the space of about a month for our Diverse Writers Grant and our Diverse Worlds Grant. The grant deadline is at the end of July, so you would need to have time available in August to read and discuss. In order to be considered, potential jurors should be writers, editors, teachers, or readers with broad knowledge of the genre, who are capable of judging literary quality in a work.

If interested, please send a brief note to our director, Mary Anne Mohanraj, [email protected], with the subject line: JUROR. Include a few lines on what your qualifying background would be for serving as a juror. Thank you for your interest, and for your support of science fiction and fantasy!

More information about the Diverse Writers and Diverse Workds grants at the link.

(8) SOUND RETREAT. John C. Wright takes “A Polite Retreat from Combat”.

Mr. George R.R. Martin here (http://grrm.livejournal.com/485124.html) has taken the time out of his busy writing schedule to rebut my comment where I rebuked him for characterizing the Sad Puppies reading list of last year as ‘right-wing’ and ‘weak’, a statement published in the Guardian newspaper.

My reply, humbly enough, was that my work was unweak enough to have sold at least one example to him. He responds by chiding me for being insufficiently humble: as if making a sale to George R.R. Martin were not indeed a matter for pride.

He and I (or so I thought) had an agreement to smooth over our puppy-related sadness.

In the spirit of that agreement, I plead nolo contendere to his allegations, in the hope that if I say nothing but this in reply, he will return to his writing, and tell me and his other fans the final fate of Westeros.

The years fly like autumn leaves, and life too short for such fare. Winter is coming.

(9) RITUALLY UNCLEAN. Sami Sundell calls it “Overemphasizing the Taint”.

…I’ve also seen some more dire messages. For example, Steve Davidson listed nominations sans puppy taint. Matthew M. Foster had an even stricter stance and called the awards Vox Awards. And that’s what really hit my nerve….

So who cares if one of the nominees is Ann Leckie‘s Ancillary Mercy, the final part of the trilogy that started with Hugo winner Ancillary Justice – a book that has been much reviled by the Puppies. Mercy was on Sad Puppies recommendation lists so it’s tainted. Same apparently goes for Uprooted by Naomi Novik.

And Vox Day, apparently all by himself, decided Seveneves by Neal Stephenson is worthy of a Hugo nomination. You know, the multiple award winner Neal Stephenson? And a book that was pre-emptively put into mind blowing science fiction list of io9 in January 2015? Expectations were high, and I’ve seen plenty of reviews saying those expectations were met, and then some.

Same goes for Alastair Reynolds’ Slow Bullets and Lois McMaster Bujold‘s Penric’s Demon. McMaster Bujold has won or been nominated for Hugos more times than I have fingers. Is it really so hard to believe she would write yet another masterpiece?

…No. Saying Day made some OK choices is not surrender. That blog entry is surrender. It gives all the power to Vox Day, it ignores the quality of works, and it claims fans had no say in the nominations. That sounds awfully lot like the arguments we’ve heard from Puppies for several years….

(10) TROLLFIGHTING SPACE KITTEN. Spacefaring Kitten would deal with the ballot this way — “On Fighting Trolls and Going to Have to Ask Kevin Standlee”.

Rule changes are slow, however, so they don’t help in the current situation — where we indeed have a hostile takeover by trolls who have stated explicitly that their intention is to destroy the award. Among the Hugo finalists, there are works that include blatant hate-speech, fat-shaming, misogyny et cetera. Overall, it’s more horrible than last year, when the voters had to mostly just stomach bad writing (this year, the level of writing is probably much higher).

The works I’m referring to here are of course the short story “If You Were an Award, My Love” and the related works SJWs Always Lie, “The Story of Moira Greyland” and “Safe Space as Rape Room” (and maybe the work of the fan artist “Kukuruyo”). These are ugly works manufactured to harass individual members of the SFF community or groups of people that the Rabid Puppies contingency happens to love harassing (women, LGBTI community and so on).

So, what could be done about them? Unfortunately, not much.

After reading the WSFS constitution, I came up with only two things. If I was running the Worldcon (which I’m not, of course), I would:

  1. Not include them in the Hugo voter packet. (There are zero rules about the voter packet, so it would be completely possible for the Worldcon to exclude the works mentioned above.)
  2. Insert onto the online voting form a statement that says “Midamericon II condemns the hate-speech/whatever featured in Finalist X”.

(11) SUTHERLAND CONTINUES. Meanwhile, Doris V. Sutherland is still working on her category-by-category discussion of last year’s results in “2014 Hugos Versus 2015 Sad Puppies: What Could Have Been, Part 1” at Women Write About Comics.

So, let me restate that the works on these longlists are the works that received the highest number of votes during the Hugo nomination process without being on either the Sad Puppies or Rabid Puppies slates. I have seen no evidence to justify suspicion of any conspiracy or wrongdoing on the part of George R. R. Martin or anyone else involved.

That said, I also have to question the claim made by certain Sad Puppies opponents that these longlists show us exactly what the Hugo ballot would been had the Sad Puppies campaign never existed. This interpretation ignores the fact that some of the Puppy picks could quite conceivably have made the final ballot even without the aid of the campaign. Nevertheless, a look at the longlist will at least give us a good idea of how the ballot would have looked without Puppy slating—and an idea is all we can have.

Best Short Story

“Jackalope Wives,” by Ursula Vernon

One of the 2014 nominees in this category was Sofia Samatar’s “Selkie Stories are for Losers,” which riffed on the folkloric motif of the animal bride. Interestingly enough, one of the contenders for the 2015 award plays with the same theme—albeit with very different results.

Ursula Vernon constructs her pseudo-folkloric story from specifically American materials, lending it a folksy tall-tale feel. It takes place in a world where young men periodically go out and hunt for jackalopes—which, in Vernon’s conception, are more than just antlered bunnies. Once they remove their fur, they take on their true forms as beautiful, unearthly women. As per animal bride tradition, any prospective suitor must steal a jackalope’s fur before he can win her as a bride, and burn it to prevent her from changing back and escaping.

So far, so conventional. But while folktales of this type are often told from the point of view of the man, with the bride’s disappearance seen as a sad occurrence, Vernon sheds light on how rotten the scenario must be for the woman. The protagonist of “Jackalope Wives” learns the ugly truth behind the legend when he tries to burn a jackalope’s fur; her resulting screams of pain cause him to have second thoughts, inadvertently leaving the woman trapped halfway between human and animal. The manic pixie dream girl has had her wings cut off.

“Jackalope Wives” is true to its folkloric roots while simultaneously offering a contemporary spin on the age-old material. A deserving contender for Best Short Story.

Sutherland also drew a “salute” to GamerGate Life.

(12) AGAINST HATRED. Jon Tully at GeeksOut tells “How Hatred Is Hurting the Hugos”.

…This year, the Rabid puppies doubled their votes and succeeded in nominating 62 out of 80 stories that they backed. And are these stories that reflect where our culture is headed? Are they stories about inclusivity, empathy, and reflection?

No. They are stories such as “SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police” a story about “social justice warriors” (penned by Beale himself), “If You Were an Award, My Love” by Juan Tabo and S. Harris, (a direct spoof on the gay-affirming “If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love”),  “Safe Space as Rape Room” by Daniel Eness (published by Castalia House) and, my personal (sarcastic) favorite, Space Raptor Butt Invasion by Chuck Tingle, which has all the literary merit the title suggests.

If the judges were willing to deny awards in five categories last year, what is it going to look like this year? Will any awards be given? Will authors begin to gravitate away from the Hugos towards the Nebula or the Locus Awards?

Will this be the death of an institution I love?

As Edmund Burke once said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” And while these oft-repeated words can seem passé (and a little too gender-specific), there is, of course, a core of truth. The reason that we’re in this situation is because the various Puppies were able to rally enough hate to their side to be heard.

But the fact that sours my stomach is not that small-minded children were able to throw a tantrum and get their way, it’s that, by doing so, they’re hijacking the narrative of our era. Metaphorically speaking, the Rabid Puppies are wedging their intolerance into a time capsule that future generations will open, and societies not yet born will see and be ashamed of.

(13) WORD BALLOONS. At this link you will find what seems to be popularly regarded as “the best superhero story ever.” And at minimum it’s pretty funny: http://imgur.com/a/czaDD

(14) FLIGHT TO THE FINNISH. Zen Cho can’t resist temptation.

(15) FRED POHL IS HERE. The Traveler from Galactic Journey has the latest ancient prozine news: “[May 3, 1961] Passing the Torch (June 1961, Galaxy, 2nd Half)”.

Fred Pohl came on last year.  He was not officially billed as the editor, but it was common knowledge that he’d taken over the reigns.  Pohl is an agent and author, a fan from the way-back.  I understand his plan has been to raise author rates again and bring back quality.  While he waits for the great stories to come back, he leavens the magazines with old stories from the “slush pile” that happen not to be awful.  In this way, Galaxy showcases promising new authors while keeping the quality of the magazine consistent.

The June 1961 Galaxy is the first success story of this new strategy.

Last issue, I talked about how Galaxy was becoming a milquetoast mag, afraid to take risks or deviate far from mediocrity.  This month’s issue, the first that lists Pohl as the “Managing Editor,” is almost the second coming of old Galaxy — daring, innovative, and with one exception, excellent.

Take Cordwainer Smith’s Mother Hitton’s Littul Kittons, in which an interplanetary ring of thieves tries to steal from the richest, and best defended planet, in the galaxy.  Smith has always been a master, slightly off-center in his style; his rich, literary writing is of the type more usually seen in Fantasy and Science FictionKittons is ultimately a mystery, the nature of the unique (in name and nature) “kittons” remaining unknown until the last.  A brutal, fascinating story, and an unique take on the future.  Five stars.

(16) DABBLING IN THE DEBACLE. Amanda S. Green asks “What do you want?” at Mad Genius Club.

…the Hugo debacle. Yes, debacle. There is no other way to describe it. Whether you support the idea that the Hugos are a fan award (which I do since you buy a membership to WorldCon in order to vote and anyone with the money can do so) or a “literary” award (which, to mean, would require it to be a juried award in some fashion), I think we all can — or at least should — agree that Hugo should not be exclusionary. If you can afford the money for the membership, you should be able to vote and your vote should have the same weight as the next person’s. Until the rules are changed, that is how it should be.

So imagine my surprise yesterday when I was looking through Facebook and came across a post from one of the puppy-kickers — and I am looking straight at you, Mr. Amazing Stories — saying that the committee should go in and look at all the ballots. Any ballot cast by a puppy should be thrown out. (And he even adds to his comment “screw privacy”, which had been one of the concerns last year’s committee had when they were asked to release the voting data.). But that’s not enough for him. He advocates never letting a “puppy” buy a membership to WorldCon again. There’s more but you can go look for yourself — assuming the post is still there. It is dated April 26th and was posted at 7:24 pm.

Needless to say, when I saw this, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Laughter because these sorts of comments show the hypocrisy of those who are “fighting the good fight” against those evil Sad and Rabid Puppies. We are called all sorts of names because, as they claim, we want to exclude message and “marginalized” people from the genre. Yet here one of their most vocal supporters is doing exactly what they claim we are doing. He is saying we should not be allowed into the same room with the Hugos. Note, he is not only saying that we shouldn’t be allowed to vote for their beloved award but tat we should not be allowed to attend WorldCon.

Sounds pretty exclusionary to me. How about you?

(17) HE’S EXCITED. More from Shamus Young about his Hugo nomination in a podcast on his site. The show notes say:

01:08 Shamus is up for a Hugo Award

Here I talk about the fact that I’ve been nominated for a Hugo, and I briefly mention the controversy the Hugos have been having for the past two years. I don’t want to talk about the controversy here. In fact, the no politics post was written specifically in anticipation of this discussion.

If you’re looking for more information: On WIRED there’s this post entitled Sci-Fi’s Hugo Awards and the Battle for Pop Culture’s Soul, which seems to be the one everyone links when trying to bring people up to speed on this. However, like a lot of Wired articles this one feels like the author was paid by the word. It’s long on anecdotes, it takes forever to get to the point, it’s broad and hyperbolic, and for all the words it spends it never feels like it gets down to details.

I found this one much more useful: A Detailed Explanation by Matthew David Surridge, explaining why he declined his Hugo nomination last year. It is also long – I’m afraid you can’t really do the topic justice in a couple of paragraphs – but instead of spending its word count on stories, he just takes up one side and argues for it. In the process he kind of maps out a good deal of both sides[1].

I’m excited to be nominated for a Hugo. I’m excited that videogames are being recognized and encouraged in their pursuit of sci-fi stories. I’m dreading dealing with people who don’t respect my no politics rule and are just looking for an opportunity to unleash the anger they’re hauling around. I think accepting the nomination is the most diplomatic thing to do, and win or lose I’m grateful for everyone who thinks my work has merit.

(18) COUNTING TO ZERO. The Locus Awards navigated around the worst rocks and shoals of the puppy lists only to incur criticism about the composition of the YA Novel finalists.

https://twitter.com/stephandrea_/status/727625334120583169

(19) NEW POPULAR FICTION MFA. Emerson College in Boston is starting a new Masters of Fine Arts in Popular Fiction Writing and Publishing in Fall 2016. It will be a fully online program designed for students who want to pursue a career as a writer of novels in the genres of fantasy, science-fiction, horror, mystery, thriller, or young adult.

The program will enroll a cohort of 12 students in order to provide individual attention and coaching. The two-year accredited MFA program will be housed in Emerson’s nationally known Department of Writing, Literature and Publishing.

The MFA in Popular Fiction Writing and Publishing is one of the first online writing programs to prepare students to write professional-level stories and novels in a variety of fictional genres and provides an opportunity for students to read deeply, think critically, and discuss popular fiction with peers. Students will have the experience of participating in creative workshops and literature courses that focus on the history of various popular genres. Additionally, hands-on publishing courses will teach students how to turn a completed manuscript into a polished, publishable work. Emerson’s publishing faculty will offer insights on the avenues available for students to publish their work, from finding and working with literary agents to self-publishing to reaching a wide readership through trade publishers.

For more information, visit the MFA in Popular Fiction Writing and Publishing web page or contact John Rodzvilla, graduate program director, at [email protected] or 617-824-3717.

(20) PUPPY DISAMBIGUATION. Don’t miss the rollover in Trae’s cartoon “The inevitable outcome”.

(21) UNKNOWN TRAILER. The first trailer for Approaching the Unknown has been released, a movie starring Mark Strong and Luke Wilson.

(22) TOLKIEN TALK. Terri Windling will lecture about Tolkien in Oxford on May 26.

Pembroke Tolkien lecture

(23) PAYING BACKWARD. Rachel Swirsky has a plan for getting through these parlous times which she shares in “Making Lemons into Jokes: ‘If You Were a Butt, My Butt”.

In my family, humor has always been a way of putting crap into perspective. When life hands you lemons, make jokes. And then possibly lemonade, too. It is coming up on summer.

In that spirit, I’m trying a self-publishing experiment. And that experiment’s name is “If You Were a Butt, My Butt.”

If my Patreon reaches $100 by the end of the month, I will write and send “If You Were a Butt, My Butt” to everyone who subscribes. If things go well, I’ve got some stretch goals, too, like an audio version.

I will be donating the first month’s Patreon funds to Lyon-Martin health services. Lyon-Martin is one of the only providers that focuses on caring for the Quiltbag community, especially low-income lesbian, bisexual, and trans people. They provide services regardless of the patient’s ability to pay.

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[And that’s the end! Thanks to John King Tarpinian, James David Nicoll, Mark-kitteh, DMS, Chip Hitchcock, Cat Rambo, Hampus Eckerman, Mike O’Donnell, Glenn Hauman, and Michael J. Walsh for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day Soon Lee.]


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315 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 5/3/16 The Seven Pixel Scrollution

  1. @Lenora Rose:

    I remember encountering “all heterosexual sex is rape” in a LiveJournal post talking about what a horrible misogynist Joss Whedon was (and he probably beat his wife too). I think it was focusing on the Wash/Zoe relationship. I was flabbergasted. I seem to recall she walked it back in comments after being challenged, though.

  2. For cool weapons, how about the “reality pill” from The Butterfly Kid (Hugo nominee in 1968). Powerful hallucinogen where your hallucinations become manifest. The technically-pacifist aliens who provided it expected us to destroy ourselves while disoriented and confused. Fortunately, the hippies were here, and had enough experience with hallucinogens in general to maintain their cool and save the day! 🙂

    Anyone who thinks left=anti-gun has not known as many members of the Black Panthers as I have. Speaking of open carry… 😉

  3. in fact, it seems a depressingly similar attitude towards sex as a unicorn would have, what with the way unicorns are said to treat non-virgins

    Someday I will write the book with the evil unicorn gang lord and explore what happens when unicorns have sex. (If non-virgins are physically painful to touch, one must assume that halfway through the process things get really unpleasant, and then what happens to a unicorn fetus in a non-virgin unicorn mare?

    …these are the things that keep me up at night.)

    @Oneiros – Dude from Bleach is Captain Shunsui, I do believe (or at least his sword.)

  4. @Snookums von Fancypants – Ah, yes! I used to love those books when I was in high school. I wonder how they’ hold up now?

  5. @BGHilton – In my experience, not well. It kinda went off the rails in a This Is Very Funny Fantasy So Plot Is Unnecessary way. Whenever anything got perilous, another minor character would turn up in a shower of fish and it all got very wearing.

  6. For weapons, has anyone mentioned the Presger gun yet?

    Steve Davidson, you and your wife have my sympathy. People find different things comforting/ strengthening in these situations – I hope you will discover your own best support. Personally I took comfort in creating routines; my husband in continuing to work. I’m guessing (based on our experience) that it’s likely to be a rocky road, so the more support, the better. I hope you will feel free to share/ vent here if it would be helpful to you.

  7. @Red Wombat – That’s a pity. The suck fairy has visited so many of the things I loved as a teenager, I was hoping it might have passed one by.

  8. @Myself, apparently I missed a whole page of comments with mentions of the Presger gun. Arrgh. Interesting page, too!

  9. I haven’t seen anyone mention the Harp that controls the winds in McKillip’s Riddle Master trilogy. That’s a pretty cool weopon.

    ETA: And adding my vote for Changeling being a seriously scary thing.

  10. @Lenora Rose: is there, perhaps a parallel between the Alinsky and Dworkin evocations? Where it’s the other side who invokes them and the left wing/modern feminists are all “who? what? is this 1970?”

    Gardner’s Cineverse Trilogy still holds up, though. I guess the title creatures in “Revenge of the Fluffy Bunnies” count as a weapon? There are many wacky ones in those, what with the Mad Scientist, the jungle drums volcano tribe, the surrealistic foreign movie, and all.

  11. @ JBWeld: I have, but it’s not from “leftists”. Any discussion of Planned Parenthood and/or women’s access to health care in general, including but not limited to contraception, brings out the BABYKILLER! screams in 3 comments or less.

  12. Guuts sword in the Berserk Manga. That is a LARGE sword. I don’t know if that is the large sword that started all other large swords though.

    And a shoutout to the singing sword of Prince Valiant.

  13. And of course because virgins render unicorns docile, most unicorns fall asleep next to each other instead of mating which is why they’re so rare.

  14. More weapons thoughts:

    Misaka’s ability to collect ironsand lying around her into a makeshift sword. (For those unaware with A Certain Scientific Railgun, the main character is basically Magneto, except a Japanese schoolgirl. Also of note is a scene where a teleporter under attack runs around the room touching windows, teleporting each panel of glass (at an angle) into the support beams of the building, causing the whole thing to collapse.)

    The sentient shuriken (with antigravity and blades of what is essentially adimantium) owned by Agent Cormac in Neal Asher’s Polity books.

    For a real life example, is everyone familiar with the Inuit shitknife? I’m not sure if I believe the story to be true, but pretty badass anyway. (And “Inuit Shitknife” would make a great name for a band–or a child, if you don’t mind their growing up hating you.)

  15. jonesnori/Lenore Jones on May 4, 2016 at 10:58 pm said:

    @Myself, apparently I missed a whole page of comments with mentions of the Presger gun

    That’s because comments about Presger guns (more precisely, Garseddai Guns, according to the Imperial Radch Wiki) automatically travel 1.1 pages after where they are posted, so you won’t seem them. It’s similar to the Spanish Inquisition’s stealth mode that blocks it (the SI) from anybody’s awareness…until it arrives. Which is why, of course, nobody expects it.

  16. 18) Because what’s most important about an author is plumbing. And I didn’t even have to leave a link this time. Thank you, Mr. Glyer.

  17. IIRC Dworkin had a thing about heterosexual penetrative sex, not heterosexual sex in general.

    The funny thing about Alinsky, considering his bogeyman status, is that he was adamantly non-ideological. One of his pet peeves was that well-meaning leftist intellectuals would go into poor communities and tell people there what they should want, and cooperate with the masses only to the extent that the masses followed the party line. An Alinsky-style organizer finds out what his or her constituency actually does want, gives them the tools to get those things, and stays in the background while they fight and win. One of the reasons that left-wingers later soured on Alinsky was that white communities in the North adopted his tactics to fight racial integration.

  18. @bbz Tasha–there are deadly kittens in Tuf Voyaging. They look cute but spit corrosive venom. One of Dorothy Sayers’ shorts has a cat as unwitting murderer. He was locked in a room with a person who had a cat phobia.

    I like the sounds of the first. Dorothy Sayer’s story sounds a but too scary for me. But hey cool kittens as weapons. Thanks. 😀

  19. Cool weapons?

    The Hellbore cannon on a Bolo, obviously. Because “megatons per second.” Sentient tank the size of a beached freighter for all-time winner.

    and…

    Pistols from the Weapon Shops of Isher. Hits like an RPG and has a force field it takes a crew-served tripod mount blaster to penetrate.

    Third place: Nova guns. Temperamental but oh-so effective. Perfect for seeing off marauding Nuri globes.

  20. @JBWeld I apologize. Talking about guns doesn’t make left-leaning folks irrational, and I was mistaken to think so.

    Talking to some left-leaning folks about guns may bring out the irrational. This would depend on who you talk to and what you consider irrational.

    It’s like talking to some right-leaning folks about contraceptives and/or abortion. Some of them go from 0 to irrational without passing go.

    If you simply mentioned guns and they instantly went to BABYKILLERS you have my sympathy.

  21. JB Weld:

    f you want to see leftists flip out, talk about guns. Nothing takes an otherwise rational conversation from zero to bellows of “BABYKILLER!” faster.

    Lol imaginary leftists.

    Dear JB, I’m firmly left of Center. I am also a police officer, in the US so that means I carry a gun full time. I have guns in my house. I intend to keep a gun at home when I retire. I don’t carry while off duty but that has to do with my own calculus of stress of responsibility and liability vs risk. I do not oppose licensed concealed carry.

    Im actually at the range doing my semi annual firearms training today.

    I also believe in more regulations on gun ownership and use than we currently have. I do not think all or most gun owners are violent maniacs. I do think too many people have guns who have no business having them and who do not have the judgment or responsibility to have something that can hurt or kill so easily; I also believe that about people who drive. I do not think it endangers 2nd amendment protections to require training, certification, and liability insurance for those who choose to own guns. I also firmly believe that if you are careless with your gun and someone gets killed, injured, or seriously endangered as a result, you should be charged criminally. That includes when you accidentally shoot someone, a kid shoots someone or themselves with your improperly stored gun, or the gun “just goes off” and a bullet flies thru your neighbors house because you forgot the round in the chamber.

    I would prob shout baby killer at the piece of shit who shot up Sandy Hook, may his name be forgotten, but that’s about it.

  22. @Seth Gordon IIRC Dworkin had a thing about heterosexual penetrative sex, not heterosexual sex in general.

    I have to say the first time someone brought up the topic all heterosexual sex is rape I was very confused. Going and reading Dworkin’s actual opinions was eye opening and made more sense.

    Having said that I was exposed to the concept all heterosexual sex is rape within the last couple years. I stumbled on a few very radical feminist groups where a few women may have believed various themes on this. I didn’t spend much time on these groups as they were way too radical for me. Not enough time to ask questions or get to know people.

  23. @Jamoche

    The 10 second bomb refers to Starship Troopers? If so, yes, that was an awesome/awful idea.

  24. Other favorite weapons:

    The tin can used in Chronicles of Riddick.

    Yondu’s Yaka arrow from Guardian’s of the Galaxy. He whistles and . . . you know the rest if you’ve read the comics or seen the movie.

  25. I’m a thirty second bomb! I’m a thirty second bomb! 29, 28, 27, I lied!

  26. @ Phantom: Ah yes, the “just vote for the best stories and it’s only coincidence that all the best stories are written by white men” argument again. Put a sock in it; nobody with a brain is buying that shit any more.

    @ Cmm: The NRA has a very good set of gun-safety rules. I would be completely down with giving those rules force of law. Demonstrate that you think of a gun as a toy, and it gets taken away from you.

    @ Sean: The bomb in Starship Troopers was a 30-second bomb. Its purpose was to create a panic that would probably kill more people than the bomb itself could.

  27. @Lee
    @Jamoche

    Good point. I didn’t look it up, but it was the only bomb I could remember that was designed to have that psychological effect. Jamoche, were you referring to a different weapon?

  28. @DMS: That’s good to hear! I’m about sixty percent through with it at this point. I missed that the one chapter moved into flashback, so I’m willing to believe the next book is better, but also willing to believe I just wasn’t paying attention. I’m a happy reader so far, though, and up for the next one!

    I read Alinsky in the seventies and still have both of his books. They’re about tactics more than ideas. The whole concept of “Alinskyism” is thus kind of goofball to me.

    As for Dworkin, I find it interesting that she gets the bad press when most of her problematic ideas are also found in Catherine MacKinnon. I figure this has to do with two things. First, Dworkin is dead and can’t defend herself. Second, Dworkin was a fat working-class lesbian and MacKinnon is a hetero babe from Harvard.

    Ah, weapons! How I love thee. Lots of good ones mentioned. Brass orchids, Littul Kittons, San Francisco. The memories come back like a hot kiss at the end of a wet fist, or an Acme* Zeppelin Tube. One that hasn’t yet been is nickel oxide, used to devastating effect in Gordon R. Dickson’s “Amanda Morgan”. Very chilling stuff.

    Nowadays, Charlie Stross is good with creepy weapons. Aside from Lecter, there’s that big iron slug in Iron Sunrise. And damn near everything in MIsslile Gap. If I had my druthers, I might unread that last one. It’s more like horror than science fiction.

    *Acme–a storied name in weaponry.

  29. Lee on May 5, 2016 at 9:13 am said: @ Phantom: Ah yes, the “just vote for the best stories and it’s only coincidence that all the best stories are written by white men” argument again. Put a sock in it; nobody with a brain is buying that shit any more.

    Yeah! Because Locus fans are SEXIST/BIGOT/HOMOPHOBES always look to see if the author is a white dude and won’t vote for anybody who’s not! Yeah!

    … wait, what?

    And you wonder why some goof went to all the trouble of getting Space Raptor Butt Explosion on the Hugo ballot.

    Oh sorry, I have a goat trying to cross my bridge. Time to break out the Troll Hammer, f-ing goats!

  30. To add to the big guns pile.

    The Displacement Engine from Farscape “Icarus Abides” Wormhole plus star makes one hell of a flamethrower as the Scarren Dreadnaught found out.

    Vorlon planet killers from Babylon 5.

    Al Reynolds also does a nifty line in apocalyptic weaponry with the Homoculous Guns from House of Suns being particularly sinister, and The Inhibitors one upping Farscape with The Singer that directs a massive coronal mass ejection straight at Resurgam.

    Bobblers as weapons, I also recall one being used to project a spray of small bobbles. In front of an aircraft on an attack run, with nasty results.

  31. John A Arkansawyer on May 5, 2016 at 11:01 am said:

    …*Acme–a storied name in weaponry.

    You want a weapon – THAT ACME ANVIL!

  32. @Lee Cmm: The NRA has a very good set of gun-safety rules. I would be completely down with giving those rules force of law. Demonstrate that you think of a gun as a toy, and it gets taken away from you.

    I agree. The NRAs gun safety rules are excellent and would make a good set of laws. If only more of their members followed them.

  33. “And you wonder why some goof went to all the trouble of getting Space Raptor Butt Explosion on the Hugo ballot.”

    No one wonders that. Assholes are assholes.

  34. Re: left wing/right wing on guns— I will note that in every gun debate I’ve had (and if you look at my Twitter & FB feeds, I’ve had a lot) when you start bringing data into the debate, the majority of objections come from right-wing individuals.

    And any objections to actually gathering more data on guns, shootings, hospitalizations, etc. come universally from right-wingers.

    Weapons: no one’s mentioned the Ark of the Covenant yet?

    (2) Aw, now he’s whining because he broke the rules and got caught. http://kukuruyo.com/2016/05/05/no-one-targeting-artists-politics/

  35. (2) Aw, now he’s whining because he broke the rules and got caught.

    He doesn’t seem to realize that the reason no one called him on his bullshit for those ten years he says he’s been making porny-style art is that he was slithering under the radar in the slimy nether reaches of the internet. By raising his public profile, his buddy Beale has lifted him to the view of normal people in the world, and he’s now suffering the fallout from that. In short: kukuruyo forgot the first rule of cockroaches – when you are in the light, you will get squashed.

  36. @Glenn Hauman:

    Weapons: no one’s mentioned the Ark of the Covenant yet?

    Wasn’t that a movie weapon? The thing in the car trunk in Repo Man, right?

  37. Aaron: kukuruyo hasn’t clued into what some of last year’s slated nominees realized, that they were being batted around in somebody else’s game. If Vox Day hadn’t worked so hard to stick the pedo label on fandom, there wouldn’t have been a special incentive to raise that spectre wherever it might apply to items on his slate.

  38. @Mike

    Live by the slur, die by the slur?
    A slur for the goose is a slur for the gander?

  39. kukuruyo hasn’t clued into what some of last year’s slated nominees realized, that they were being batted around in somebody else’s game.

    That too. I think the harsher realization for kukuruyo is going to be that he’s gotten away with his hijinks for the last several years because he was living in an obscure corner of the internet. Now that he’s in the public eye, people who don’t go searching for naked pictures of super-heroes are going to notice him, and he’s going to get a lot of criticism as a result.

  40. kukuruyo
    As gets mentioned here frequently the worst thing to happen to many puppy nominees is people look at their work. Being obscure has its advantages.

  41. There was a Get Smart episode where Max is issued a gum disguised as a sandwich. Also, he gets a sandwich disguised as a gun, because he has to keep his strength up.

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