Pixel Scroll 6/27/18 What Has It Got In Its Retro Packet?

(1) ANAHEIM EVENT GOES DOWN THE TUBER. With dreams of rivaling VidCon, YouTuber Tana Mongeau tried to stage her own event in Anaheim. How did that go? New York Magazine titled its coverage “A Mouth to Hell Opened This Weekend at Tanacon, a Fyre Festival for the YouTube Set”.

Tana Mongeau wanted to throw an alt-VidCon. Instead, she threw a Fyre Festival redux.

Mongeau is a YouTuber. She has 3.5 million followers and her name might sound vaguely familiar if you’re at all versed in the surprisingly engaging world of vegan YouTube drama. VidCon is an annual YouTube-centric convention organized by brothers and YouTube royals Hank and John Green. Tanacon is the event that Mongeau organized — and named after herself — last week in California.

Tanacon was inspired by Mongeau’s self-professed dislike of VidCon. In a video you can watch if you have an hour and eighteen minutes to kill, Mongeau explained she would not be attending VidCon this year, citing drama over not being designated a featured creator at the event. And so, Tanacon was born. And, in a way, so Tanacon died. The event was barely six hours into its first day when it was shut down by officials for overcrowding, sending thousand of teens — many who had been waiting hours outside in the sun — into a tizzy. A dehydrated tizzy we can now recount for you to gleefully relive from the relative comfort of wherever you’re presently posted up. (We can only assume it’s not still the parking lot of the Anaheim Marriott Suites.)…

…The fan horde did not take well to the event cancellation. “After the lady said it was canceled, everyone started screaming, complaining, and cussing her out,” 13-year-old Alyssa, who bought a VIP ticket and waited six hours to be turned away empty-handed, said. “Everyone ran to the registration tent and threw the merch … pop sockets, Tanacon bags, stickers, Tanacon condoms, badges. This led to everyone destroying everything.”

Mongeau eventually came outside to calm the crowd. This, reader, will you believe … also did not end well, as evidenced by clips of screaming fans, phones raised above their heads with cameras at the ready, running through the parking lot to spy their queen….

 

(2) AND A BAD TRACK RECORD GETS WORSE. Louisville’s Fandomfest, which unaccountably did not go out of business last year after the loss of more than half its celebrity guests and a last-minute move to an old Macy’s store, (“Louisville’s Fandom Fest Shambles On”), has failed its attempt to relaunch in 2018. Co-promoter Myra Daniels announced on Facebook yesterday they’re “rescheduling” Fandomfest 2018 and plan to divide it into two more affordable events.

Hey Guys!!!

We are rescheduling Fandomfest 2018 this year.

A number of reasons why.

When we picked the date last year it was a different date range then we normally pick. It was the date closest to the previous few years of Fandomfest. The Omni is a great hotel and we wanted to have it there this year.

Unfortunately several things happened. The date we chose made it very difficult to get vendors and bigger named celebs for that date because there were 6 other big conventions on that date.

So many of our normal vendors had already paid and booked other shows for that date. That made it difficult to procure vendors which helps to pay for everything.

Another reason is the pre-sale tickets were at a lower rate then ever. The guests we have chosen to bring in to the event weren’t a big enough pre-ticket purchase draw for the fans.

Putting these shows on costs money. A lot of money. The idea is to have an idea of the excitement for your guest list and the pre-sales are a huge way for us to gauge that in our plan.

We worked with the great people at The Omni to try and find another date there at their beautiful facility but they are completely booked all the way into 2019.

So we are excited to announce that we are working to reschedule and instead of bringing one show in the summer we are going to bring 2 events to better serve you guys. We know we hear all the time how expensive the shows are getting with the autograph prices and the photo op prices as well as admission. We think the time is right to have shows that don’t cost the fans as much money.

All of us love meeting our favorites from our Superhero Movies or favorite TV Shows out there but lets face it, it can get expensive.

Daniels says they’ll “be refunding the few ticket purchases and vendor booths” starting on June 30.

(3) STILL EARTHBOUND. It was an open secret that the launch of James Webb Space Telescope would be delayed again; now it’s just plain open. The schedule now calls for a launch on March 30, 2021. Once launched, the JWST will be inserted into a solar orbit at the Earth-Sun L2 point.

NASA says

The James Webb Space Telescope (sometimes called JWST or Webb) is an orbiting infrared observatory that will complement and extend the discoveries of the Hubble Space Telescope, with longer wavelength coverage and greatly improved sensitivity. The longer wavelengths enable Webb to look much closer to the beginning of time and to hunt for the unobserved formation of the first galaxies, as well as to look inside dust clouds where stars and planetary systems are forming today.

Quoting The Verge’s article “NASA’s next flagship space telescope is delayed again”:

NASA has again delayed the launch of its next-generation space observatory, known as the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), the space agency announced today. The telescope now has a new launch date of March 30th, 2021. It’s the second delay to the program’s timeline this year, and the third in the last nine months.

“We’re all disappointed that the culmination of Webb and its launch is taking longer than expected, but we’re creating something new here. We’re dealing with cutting-edge technology to perform an unprecedented mission, and I know that our teams are working hard and will successfully overcome the challenges,” NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine said in a video statement. “In space we always have to look at the long term, and sometimes the complexities of our missions don’t come together as soon as we wish. But we learn, we move ahead, and ultimately we succeed.”

(4) TAKE NOTE. The Guardian answers the question:  “Who is Segun Akinola? The composer reinventing the Doctor Who theme”.

Segun Akinola has been announced as the sci-fi show’s new composer, and he’s in for a challenge almost as significant as hers: reinventing one of TV’s best-known theme tunes. The British-Nigerian musician’s unveiling continues the trend for bringing in fresh blood all around for the show’s new era. Composer Murray Gold worked on all 10 series of the revived show, winning acclaim for his blockbustery orchestral scores – despite many fans complaining they became invasive and overbearing.

Akinola, an alumnus of the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire and part of 2017’s Bafta Breakthrough Brit programme, could prove an altogether different prospect for a remodelled show. Could fans look forward to hearing something a little more pared down, modern and minimalist?

…Yet his latest challenge sets the bar high. Composing soundtracks for all 10 episodes of Whittaker’s debut series might provide the lion’s share of his workload – but he is also tasked with providing a ‘fresh take’ on the show’s theme music. That’s one of the most iconic elements of Doctor Who – just like the show itself, it’s always changing while remaining, broadly, the same.

Composed by Ron Grainer, the eerie, warping titles first emerged in 1963 in an arrangement now synonymous with Doctor Who’s renegade spirit….

(5) TRAVEL BAN CONSEQUENCES URGED. In the aftermath of the Supreme Court decision upholding Trump’s travel ban, several leading sff figures voiced a new resolve to deprive the United States of future Worldcons. Patrick Nielsen Hayden’s Twitter thread starts here. Adam Roberts carried on the theme in his Twitter thread, and Paul Cornell ratified it.

(6) CHRISTOPHER STASHEFF REMEMBERED. The daughter of the late Christopher Stasheff gave an interview about the author to the Champaign, IL News-Gazette.

A daughter of the prolific author who brought literary depth to the science fiction and fantasy genres with books like “The Warlock in Spite of Himself” said he used the people of Champaign as his muse.

“He gained inspiration from the people around him,” said Eleanore Stasheff, whose father, Christopher Stasheff, died June 10 at age 74.

“He always believed home is where the heart is, which is Champaign,” she said. “He found beauty anywhere we were at, but to him, people were more important than nature.”

(7) HEART OBIT. Frank Heart (1929-2018), a U.S. engineer who led the team that built the Interface Message Processor, heart of internet precursor ARPAnet, died on June 24 aged 89. The New York Times recalls his achievements: “Frank Heart, Who Linked Computers Before the Internet, Dies at 89”.

Data networking was so new that Mr. Heart and his team had no choice but to invent technology as they went. For example, the Arpanet sent data over ordinary phone lines. Human ears tolerate low levels of extraneous noise on a phone line, but computers can get tripped up by the smallest hiss or pop, producing transmission errors. Mr. Heart and his team devised a way for the I.M.P.s (pronounced imps) to detect and correct errors as they occurred.

(8) TODAY’S BIRTHDAYS

  • Born June 27 – Tobey Maguire, 43. Spider-Man films of course.
  • Born June 27 — J.J. Abrams, 52. Executive Producer of Alias, Lost: Missing Pieces, Star Trek, Lost, Fringe, Star Trek Into Darkness, Almost Human… Well you get the idea.
  • Born June 27 – Samuel George Claflin, 32. Performer, the Hunger Games film series, Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides and Snow White and the Huntsman

(9) COMICS SECTION.

  • John King Tarpinian spotted a Return of the Jedi joke in Brewster Rockit.

(10) KING KONG V GODZILLA. At Galactic Journey, The Young Traveler gives a blow-by-blow account of monstrous showdown: “[June 26, 1963] Double or Nothing (King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962))”.

Though the epic monster fight was the main spectacle of the movie, it also managed to have a plot too. Well, sort of. The movie follows a dying Pharmaceuticals company whose executive is trying to get business by gaining traction on TV. Obviously the best way to get TV viewership is to send two of your employees to a small exotic island in search of giant monsters you can exploit. So that’s just what they do, discovering King Kong in the process. An awesome fight breaks out between King Kong and a giant octopus, for some reason, and after a much too long “exotic” dance sequence from the island’s “natives” King Kong drinks some special juice and falls asleep.

(11) READY FOR ITS CLOSE-UP. BBC reports “Japan’s Hayabusa 2 spacecraft reaches cosmic ‘diamond'”.

A Japanese spacecraft has arrived at its target – an asteroid shaped like a diamond or, according to some, a spinning top.

Hayabusa 2 has been travelling toward the space rock Ryugu since launching from the Tanegashima spaceport in 2014.

It is on a quest to study the object close-up and deliver rocks and soil from Ryugu to Earth.

It will use explosives to propel a projectile into Ryugu, digging out a fresh sample from beneath the surface.

(12) HISTORY ONLINE. Did you know the BBC once sold a home computer? “BBC releases computer history archive”.

A slice of computing history has been made public, giving people the opportunity to delve into an archive that inspired a generation of coders.

The Computer Literacy Project led to the introduction of the BBC Micro alongside programmes which introduced viewers to the principles of computing.

It included interviews with innovators such as Bill Gates and Steve Wozniak.

The BBC hopes the 1980s archive will encourage today’s youngsters to become involved in computing.

With the release of the archive, viewers can now search and browse all of the programmes from the project.

They will be able to:

  • watch any of the 267 programmes
  • explore clips by topic or text search
  • run 166 BBC Micro programmes that were used on-screen
  • find out the history of the Computer Literacy Project

(13)  DRAGON CON LOSES POC PARTICIPANT. Gerald L. Coleman, who withdrew as a ConCarolinas guest, has decided Dragon Con isn’t suitable either.

Here’s a little thread I just sent. I still haven’t heard back from Cisca Small after emailing her twice this month about whether #DragonCon intends to invite John Ringo. According to Ringo he’s been invited. If that’s true I’ll be withdrawing my participation as an Attending Professional. I don’t have the luxury of pacifying, appeasing, or normalizing these decisions with my presence. I’m sure a number of authors who aren’t people of color or women will find all kinds of justifications for why it’s ok to attend but still call themselves “allies”. Just know I don’t buy it. I understand though, selling a few copies of your books is more important than letting a Con know that who they invite says everything about who they are.

Coleman also wrote a Twitter thread, which starts here.

(14) MANIFESTUNG. The Daily Dot’s Michelle Jaworski shows that “‘The Last Jedi’ backlash ‘campaign’ demands to be taken seriously “.

More than six months after the theatrical release of The Last Jedi, just about every aspect of the backlash against it has already been argued and debated to death. But that hasn’t stopped old arguments appearing in new formats.

Last week, we saw an almost certainly fake campaign “raise” millions of dollars to remake a film that earned more than $1.3 billion at the box office. This week, we’re seeing a “manifesto” written by “We the fans of Star Wars” go viral several weeks after it was originally posted. The emergence of the post, which didn’t get that much traction when it was first posted, is almost solely so people can mock it.

The creators of the manifesto believe that “those in charge of a Franchise derives its power as a creative force from the consent of the fandom of that Franchise.” The creators take umbrage with the direction that Lucasfilm has gone since being purchased by Disney and the perceived “misguided political agenda” that it’s pursuing with the new films. It includes grievances against The Last Jedi and the newer films as a whole, characterizing the films as desecrating the legacies of characters we’ve known for decades. And they certainly have an issue with people assuming that they’re racist, sexist, or part of the alt-right for disliking a movie.

“To these ends, we pledge our merchandise, our honor, and our wallets,” the manifesto stated in its final line.

These Star Wars fans, you see, demand to be taken seriously.

For the historians among us, this June 3 Twitter thread contains both the manifesto and a flag (complete with explanation of all its symbolism).

(15) A FORK IN THE ROAD. NPR’s Jason Sheehan reviews Laura Anne Gilman’s novel: “‘Red Waters Rising’ Leads Old Friends Into New Trouble”.

In the Devil’s West trilogy, Laura Anne Gilman has given us an imagined history of the United States — one that feels nearly as true as facts, both crazier and more reasoned than our Old West reality. Silver On The Road defined that world. One where the Devil — the actual Devil, smelling warmly of whiskey and tobacco, dressed in a prim cardsharp’s suit — holds dominion over everything in the United States west of the Mississippi, and defends it and its people from the predation and influence of Washington, Spain, the French and all of the East. From a town called Flood, he makes his deals and sends his chosen out into the world — one of them being Isobel, a teenaged girl, raised at the Devil’s knee and then sent forth (along with her mentor, Gabriel) into the Territory as his Left Hand. She is the Devil’s cold eye, final word and, when necessary, his justice.

(16) LUKE CAGE. The Orlando Sentinel interviews “’Luke Cage’ showrunner on its controversial killing”.

Before Cheo Hodari Coker began plotting Season 2 of Netflix‘s “Luke Cage,” he had to address the elephant in the room.

Actually, it was more like a snake in the room. A Cottonmouth to be specific.

Coker, a director, writer and producer who can frequently be found on social media answering both positive and negative questions and comments from viewers of his works, had frequently seen comments online saying that the killing of Season 1 villain Cottonmouth (Mahershala Ali) was a huge mistake.

There was a method to Coker’s perceived madness. One reason he gleefully accepted working on “Luke Cage” in the first place was his love of superhero comics. Coker still remembers vividly how he felt the moment he read the 12th issue of “Alpha Flight” (published by Marvel Comics in 1983), when legendary comics scribe and artist John Byrne killed the character Guardian.

“When (Bryne) killed Guardian I was verklempt,” Coker told The Washington Post. “I wanted to bring that kind of thing to Marvel television. I wanted to kind of do what Hitchcock did with ‘Psycho,’ because it was a big deal to kill Janet Leigh. And so, that was the thing. Cottomouth in that structure was always going to die. Even though people liked him a lot.”

(17) NIGHTFLYERS. Syfy Wire was terrified: “Nightflyers: George R.R. Martin goes ‘Psycho’ in new teaser”.

In the latest intense and unnerving teaser for George R.R. Martin’s upcoming sci-fi/horror series, Nightflyers, a young girl seems to recite some sort of incantation while we’re treated (if that’s the right word) to brief flashes of the rest of the cast in tight, dark spaces looking concerned, being set on fire, being dragged across the floor by some unseen force, and running for their lives. It’s all pretty terrifying, to tell the truth.

 

[Thanks to Jim Meadows, Chip Hitchcock, Mike Kennedy, JJ, IanP, Martin Morse Wooster, John King Tarpinian, Cat Eldridge, Andrew Porter, Rev. Bob, Nickpheas, and Carl Slaughter for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day Daniel Dern.]

119 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 6/27/18 What Has It Got In Its Retro Packet?

  1. “I think Marvel Comics and DC Comics should get their entire back catalogs digitized and offer a service whereby fans can order customized TPBs with whatever contents they choose — including cross-company collections so I can have a TPB of all the Rutland Halloween Parade stories — but I’m not going to spend any time on it.”

    I second this.

  2. @Kurt: you are not differentiating between consumer and participatory activities.

  3. Chip: It doesn’t matter. There is no duty. Period.

    If someone wants to try and get another Worldcon to Winnipeg, or even just somewhere within the prairie provinces, I might feel some interest in helping, but I have no obligation to. If someone wants to get one to somewhere in Europe I wish desperately to visit (Helsinki was one such, but the timing was so so unfeasible for so many reasons), I definitely have no obligation to throw myself into the bid.

  4. Those people who don’t think there should be any US Worldcons have a duty to organize non-US Worldcon bids.

    Wouldn’t it follow then that those of us physically, financially or for other reasons truly unable to work towards such organizing would no longer be allowed to express our opinions?
    They also serve who, and all that.
    Of course, the whole genre of put-up or shut-up arguments is literally designed to limit participation and silence meaningful discussion of a subject, so this is just another one.

  5. Yes, the last time I had someone pull that on me, it was that if I felt like women were underrepresented in anthologies, I should edit and publish my own. And apparently, also make my own movies with diverse casts. AND run for government.

  6. Yesterday I left a “what sacrifices* are you making?” comment on another blog, but that was specifically in response to someone who was pulling a version of what Lenora describes, claiming that if someone wasn’t willing to make significant personal or job sacrifices to improve diversity, they should stop complaining on blogs. Because yes, blog comments can be easy, but the standard he was using was basically that women and people of color shouldn’t complain about discrimination unless they were prepared to go work for a company with an almost entirely white male workforce, even if they had reason to expect various levels of harassment.

    That’s a double standard both because it puts the burden on the victims of racism and sexism, not the people who commit or benefit from them, and because it always allows for the people who say “there is no problem” and “stop complaining about how you’re treated” to keep talking.

    *”sacrifice” was not my word, it was already in the discussion, and specifically in the comment I was replying to.

  7. @Gregory Benford

    “No Worldcons should be scheduled in the USA until this ban is lifted. Simple.”
    Sad to see politics imported into every matter, even hobbies and celebrations. Simple minded.

    Trump’s travel ban has already imported politics into a hobby/celebration, because it makes it impossible for some people to attend a US WorldCon, not because of anything they may or may not have done, but simply because they happen to have the wrong passport.

    And for those who claim that the travel ban probably doesn’t affect any WorldCon attendants, I personally know of at least one Syrian fan who attended Loncon. I don’t think this fan was planning to attend WorldCon 76, but you never know.

    What is more, Iran does not allow anybody to relinquish their citizenship and also automatically claims non-Iranian spouses of Iranian citizens and children born abroad as citizens. There are a lot of Iranian expats and their descendants living in Europe, Canada, Australia, etc…, people who fled either the Shah regime or the Ayatollah regime and who have been living outside the country for decades. Most of these people have dual citizenship and now cannot travel to the US. The last time Trump tried to push his travel ban, one of those affected was a German journalist who’d been born to Iranian parents in Germany.

    So in short, we don’t know how many WorldCon attendants are affected by the travel ban, but it’s not exactly unlikely that some people are affected. Not to mention people like Peter Watts and Cheryl Morgan (and Vox Day, for that matter, though no one will miss him) who cannot travel to the US for other reasons. Or that there are plenty of people like Anna, Hampus or me, who won’t travel to the US, while the current government is in power.

    Though I don’t think that there should be no more WorldCons in the US at all, because there are also people who cannot leave the US. Supporting any viable non-US bid does look like a good compromise. And it should be possible to get a viable non-US bid together for 2022 at least. Sorry Chicago, it’s nothing personal.

  8. @Lenora: I read that as “…make your own movies with diverse CATS” and am now imagining you remaking various sci-fi and fantasy classics with any neighborhood cats in your apartment. Which might be amazing.

    I do not know if you even have any cats, but if not, I’m sure they could be acquired. I VOLUNTEER AS CAT-NAPPER.

  9. Greg M. I… am now imagining you remaking various sci-fi and fantasy classics with any neighborhood cats in your apartment.

    I am quite sure that the clever, crafty villains will be played by Siamese.

  10. Greg M:

    “I VOLUNTEER AS CAT-NAPPER.”

    We have a new feature here on File 770. Greg Sleeps On Cats.

  11. @Lenora Rose, @Lauowolf: “Put up or shut up” may be a silencer in other areas. However, Worldcons are done entirely by volunteers — and have been seriously distributed since at least 1992, when I was emailing all over the US to turn exhibit vaporware into floorplans (for Orlando, from Boston). With the massively expansion of the internet since then, anyone who actually cares can find groups and offer to help.

  12. Well, if you don’t/can’t organize those bids you want, don’t be surprised if no bids appear that you’ll support. You can’t win the lottery unless you buy a ticket.

    I guess this sounds like “silencing,” but what I’m saying here is that Worldcons don’t organize themselves. By now y’all know the next part: there’s no WSFS Board of Directors who will go out and hire someone to run a convention where you think it should be. Fans organize these things, and only places that bid are going to hold one.

    The analogy with a comic book publisher doing something you want them to do is flawed: You don’t have any ownership in the publisher, which is in business to make money, not to deliver a service. As a member of WSFS, you have some ownership in the process, and Worldcons aren’t organized primarily to make money. (They don’t want to lose money either, but profit is not their goal.)

  13. Chip:

    you are not differentiating between consumer and participatory activities.

    People who have opinions on Worldcon don’t have to participate or consume in order to have opinions.

    Kevin:

    Well, if you don’t/can’t organize those bids you want, don’t be surprised if no bids appear that you’ll support.

    There’s still no duty to make bids, merely for having an opinion. Even expressing an opinion doesn’t confer a duty.

    I have many opinions that remain unacted upon, and I am unsurprised by such inaction. Heck, I have opinions about things I should do that I don’t do, and am unsurprised by the lack of results.

    I guess this sounds like “silencing,”

    Yes, it sure does.

    but what I’m saying here is that Worldcons don’t organize themselves.

    No, you’re not. If that’s what you mean to say, you can say it, rather than saying that having an opinion creates a duty.

    The analogy with a comic book publisher doing something you want them to do is flawed: You don’t have any ownership in the publisher, which is in business to make money, not to deliver a service. As a member of WSFS, you have some ownership in the process, and Worldcons aren’t organized primarily to make money. (They don’t want to lose money either, but profit is not their goal.)

    You don’t have to be a member of WSFS to have (or express) an opinion. As such, the analogy is fine.

    “Those people who don’t think there should be any US Worldcons have a duty to organize non-US Worldcon bids.”

    They really don’t. It’s one of the options, to be sure, but it’s not a duty, and it’s never going to be one.

  14. And heck, just for the amusement value…

    You don’t have any ownership in the publisher, which is in business to make money, not to deliver a service.

    …I don’t have ownership in either publisher in the traditional sense (although since they’re both part of publicly-held corporations, others here might (and wait a minute, I think I’d have to check with Ann as to whether we own any Disney stock)), but…

    …I do have financial equity in some things they own and publish (and conversely, I plain-old own some things they publish too). But perhaps more to the point, I’ve had success at points in the past at getting them to publish things, and not just things I wrote. There are numerous books in the Marvel and DC catalogues that I’m not represented as a creator in, but which wouldn’t exist if I hadn’t lobbied the publisher to do them.

    So I have some reason to believe that I could get them to listen to me if I wanted to pitch them on this publishing plan.

    I don’t, however, think I could get them to do it. At least not now.

    Maybe in the future, when they’ve got more of their backlist digitized. Right now, they’d tell me they (a) can’t afford the manpower it’d take to set it up and (b) wouldn’t want to piss off the direct-market retailers by competing with them with a custom POD program like that.

    But it’d still be cool.

  15. @Kevin Standlee–I know there are people out there who are confused on this point, but you also know that the regulars here understand that the non-US Worldcons can’t happen if the bids don’t present to be voted for.

    Those bids may be more likely to come forward if the potential organizers know there’s increased support for non-US Worldcons.

  16. @Gregory Benford: It’s becoming dicier for people to cross borders. How much dicier is hard to measure, but enough that it’s changed some folks’ behaviors. Assuming that, what response would you want to see? How would you make that response non-political?

    Multi-site Worldcons via telepresence as proposed sound interesting to me: A primary site with two or three satellites, plus video for those who can’t get there.

    (I think that’s a political solution, and I don’t think that’s what you have in mind when you say “political”, so I’m not asking this question to advance that argument.)

  17. I wonder what fraction of Worldcon membership is American, and to what extent that would drop if site selection went in an overt anti-American direction.

  18. @Bill, IIRC, the 2015 candidates for Worldcon were Spokane, Helsinki, and Orlando, and Helsinki had the largest number of first place votes, but lost to Spokane because most of the Orlando second place votes were for Spokane. This suggests to me that there’s a fair sized contingent that are Americans voting only for North American venues. Whether that remains to be true when Worldcon is hosted outside of the US, I have no idea. I guess that depends on how many site selection ballots typically get mailed in instead of voted in person.

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