Pixel Scroll 8/7/24 With A Purposeful Pixel And A Terrible Scroll  He Pulls The Spitting Godstalk Down

(1) CRANKY DRAGON AWARD FINALIST. It’s not the Dragon Awards that Tom Kratman is upset with — in contrast to those who are miffed because they dropped Cedar Sanderson. Kratman welcomes his book’s appearance on the ballot because it lets him count coup on Publishers Weekly which gave it a bad review.

That Publisher Weekly’s review concluded:

….A deeply conservative ideology runs throughout, often given voice through Sean’s observations about the differences between past and present: “The Democratic Party of my time,” he tells a 1960s Democrat, “is a wholly owned subsidiary of a new class of amazingly rich, denationalized and globalist plutocrats.” He follows this up with digs at LGBTQ rights and the sexual revolution (arguing it actually “reduced women’s choices”), and Kratman does nothing to differentiate the views of his character from the philosophy of the book itself. While the author’s flair for fight scenes is undeniable, there’s little else to recommend this. 

(2) BOOKMARK THIS. The Photography Team at the 2024 World Science Fiction Convention in Glasgow is posting “Worldcon Photos” to Flickr. Obviously, there will be more when the convention really starts on August 8.

(3) BRISBANE IN 28 UPDATE. Today Random Jones, chair of the Brisbane in 28 Worldcon bid, sent a progress report subscribers:

The bid for Worldcon in Brisbane began in 2020, with the intention to bid for the 2025 Worldcon. However the pressures of dealing with a world with Covid and the massive changes that resulted from those years caused the committee to realise that 2025 was not feasible, and the bid was retargeted towards 2028.

Earlier this year the committee determined it was time to pass the baton on to a new and reinvigorated committee, and from this we are now a few days out from the start of Worldcon Glasgow 2024 full of energy and the desire to get the job done.

My name is Random Jones and I am the chair of the Brisbane in 28 Worldcon bid committee. I am the head of a small but dedicated bunch of fans who are intending to make our Worldcon the best that not only Brisbane has to offer, but the whole of Australia and the South Pacific region.

Over the next 2 years until the site selection vote, we want to make sure people truly believe that we are a fantastic option to hold Worldcon, and that we have the both the dreams and the ability to make it happen.

Glasgow Worldcon: Brisbane in 28 will be present at Glasgow Worldcon, 8 to 12 August, 2024. We will be running a table in the fan-tables section plus holding a party on the Thursday night. Come along and get a badge ribbon, learn what a Tim Tam Slam is, and possibly discover the truth about drop bears. There may also be fairy bread, but we can’t make any guarantees at this stage.

We will also be present at the Future Worldcons Q&A session which will be held on Friday August 9 at 13:00 BST in the Carron room. Vix will be there as our representative, and will be doing a small presentation and answering any questions people have.

(4) CHENGDU DELEGATION AT GLASGOW WORLDCON. [Item by Ersatz Culture.] On Tuesday 6th July, Hugo winner RiverFlow posted on Weibo a list of Chinese people who were known to be attending the Glasgow Worldcon in person.

Amongst the list of Hugo finalists and fans – some of whom wrote reports from last year’s Worldcon that were mentioned in Pixel Scrolls in late 2023 and early 2024 – there is a line item about a mysterious “Chengdu delegation”, with the parenthesized caveat that River doesn’t know who might be part of this delegation.

Whilst this could be a delegation representing the Chengdu Worldcon, this is perhaps unlikely for a variety of reasons.  A perhaps more plausible answer is that it relates the retooled Tianwen Program which in its recent press announcement, explicitly mentioned the involvement of people from Chengdu local government.  Other possibilities might be promotion for the Chengdu SF Museum, or parties interested in the ASFiC/EASFiC proposal (item E.12 on the Business Meeting agenda).

This delegation item doesn’t seem to refer to representation of Chengdu-based science fiction publishers such as Science Fiction World or Eight Light Minutes Culture, as staff from those organizations are listed in separate items in River’s post.

As an aside, it is unclear if the Panda Study trip covered in posts earlier this year is still going ahead.  There was a Chinese-language update in late March (which didn’t get written up for File 770), which has a schedule indicating that the group would have arrived in London on Tuesday 6th, before heading to Glasgow on the 9th.  That piece also states that the trip would involve a previous Hugo winner and/or one of the “Four Kings” of Chinese SF, saying that more details would be released 3 months in advance.  The apparent lack of any such details becoming public may well indicate that the trip has been cancelled.  No-one I’ve spoken to about it is aware of any updates since that one in late March.

(5) EVERMORE OVERHAUL COMING. [Item by Dave Doering.] Great news on Utah’s answer to Disneyland. Evermore revived! “Evermore’s new owners to reveal hints about opening with interactive clues, cash prizes” at KSL.com.

Evermore Park is soon to be nevermore. Utah real estate executive Brandon Fugal announced the private sale of the now-defunct fantasy adventure theme park Monday.

“I am thrilled to see the venue transition into its next chapter, now in progress,” Fugal said. “The new owners have an extraordinary vision.”

Evermore had struggled for years with its operating model, pandemic setbacks and financial woes until ultimately defaulting and being evicted from the property owned by Fugal.

New owners Travis Fox and Michelle Fox want Utahns to get excited about plans for the park through their community “Hatch The Egg” tournament. Anyone 18 or older can sign up, whether as individuals or families, to receive clues and compete for a chance to win cash prizes.

Details about the park’s new direction and opening will be revealed over the course of several months via tournament clues. The tournament’s grand prize of $20,000 and the grand reopening date will be announced Nov. 21…

(6) GALAXY MAGAZINE RETURNS WITH ISSUE 263. Galaxy Science Fiction magazine is back. Originally running from 1950 to 1980, Starship Sloane Publishing has revived the classic magazine for a contemporary audience, featuring both authors from its original run and beyond into today’s global SF landscape, with works spanning seven countries.

With fiction, essays, poetry and art by: Eugen Bacon, F. J. Bergmann, Eliane Boey, Ronan Cahill, A J Dalton, Bob Eggleton, Zdravka Evtimova, David Gerrold, Richard Grieco, Rodney Matthews, Bruce Pennington, Daniel Pomarède, Gareth L. Powell, Christopher Ruocchio, Paulo Sayeg, Robert Silverberg, Nigel Suckling, & Dave Vescio

Cover art by Bruce Pennington.

Galaxy #263 will be available in digest paperback and as a free PDF download at Galaxy SF.

(7) FAN IS NOW VEEP CANDIDATE. Nicholas Whyte notes that Politico lists Tim Walz’s status as an sf fan as one of his defining characteristics. The link goes to a January 2019 Twin Cities.com / Pioneer Press headline: “Minnesota, meet your new governor: teacher, coach, soldier, sci-fi fan — and eternal optimist”.

(8) OUT OF THE STARTING GATE. Michael Capobianco finishes his overview of the first year of SFWA in “A Brief History of SFWA: The Beginning (Part 2)” at the SFWA Blog.

… Damon Knight was now president of SFWA, Editor/Writer/Publisher of the Bulletin, and chair of a one-person Contracts Committee/Griefcom.  It was at about this point that SFWA was becoming unmanageable for one person. Enter Lloyd Biggle, Jr., the newly elected Secretary-Treasurer. Biggle struck Knight as someone who was “sucker enough to take that job (Secretary-Treasurer) and do it conscientiously,” which was apparently an extremely accurate assessment.

Knight recalled in Bulletin #54, “Lloyd not only served two terms as Secretary-Treasurer and did dozens of other jobs for the organization, he set up the trustee system and served on it for years, while I got out after two terms and lay in a hammock. Furthermore, it was Biggle who proposed the annual SFWA anthology as a means of making money for the organization. And from that came the idea of the annual awards and the trophies and the banquets and this whole apparatus. Of course, it had crossed my mind that we might do something like that eventually, but in the beginning, we were too poor. It was our share of the royalties that made it possible.”…

(9) WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. Steve Stred wants people to know how he was treated by DarkLit Press: “Speaking Up: My DarkLit Experience”.

I’m just seeing that it looks as though DarkLit Press is pulling all the books & closing up shop. It doesn’t surprise me with the number of authors who pulled their books – myself included – and I very well might’ve been the first one whose book had been published (a few pulled them when the new crew took over before publication) and out in the wider world, when the rights were requested to be returned.

But, behind the scenes I’ve already seen screenshots labelling me as the ‘trouble maker,’ and the reason this is happening. Which, if you know me and have even a passing idea of what’s gone on behind the scenes, you’ll know that is furthest from the truth. I try really hard to support everyone, cheer everyone on, and have helped with the Ladies of Horror Fiction Writers Grant (how I miss that!) and trying to get the Canadian Horror Writers Association up and running….

These are just two of many incidents Stred lists:

– DarkLit had been known to post sales/preorder numbers. So and so has hit 1000 preorders! So and so has sold 2000 copies etc etc. From when my book went up for preorder, I asked monthly either through DM or emails for updates on the preorder numbers. As of writing this – on August 6th, 2024 – I’ve never been shown a single report, nor given any numbers.

– During the weekend before launch, I had a number of DarkLit authors reach out asking how my experience had been, and I was forthcoming. They shared lack of royalty payments, having to chase down being paid for royalties or even receiving a report, and this was both prior to and after the leadership/ownership take over….

(10) TODAY’S BIRTHDAY.

[Written by Lis Carey.]

August 7, 1960 Melissa Scott, 64.

By Lis Carey: Melissa Scott was born in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1960, and grew up there. She discovered science fiction when she broke her arm in gym class, and was sent to the school library until it healed. The librarian offered her a science fiction book and suggested she try it. She was hooked, and proceeded to exhaust the resources of every library she had access to.

Melissa Scott at Bucconeer in 1998. Photo by Dbrukman

Following in her father’s footsteps, Melissa attended Harvard College, in Cambridge, MA, where she earned a bachelor’s degree in history, and helped produce a college-sanctioned science fiction magazine, which led to the formation of the Harvard-Radcliffe Science Fiction Association. From there, she enrolled in the graduate history program at Brandeis University in Waltham, MA. (Both Cambridge and Waltham are within the metropolitan area generally referred to as “Boston,” by those from more distant parts who might find Boston’s actual boundaries a surprise.) While at Brandeis, she earned her PhD in comparative history, and sold her first novel, The Game Beyond.

The other thing Melissa did in Greater Boston was meet her partner, Lisa A. Barnett. They settled in Portsmouth, NH, and were together for 27 years, until Lisa’s death from breast and brain cancer, in May 2006. 

Melissa has written two dozen science fiction and fantasy novels, as well as short stories. Three of those novels, the fantasy novels Point of Hopes and Point of Dreams, and the alternate history fantasy novel, The Armor of Light, were co-written with Lisa. Can I just express here how much I enjoyed the Points novels, and truly treasure The Armor of Light?

Some of my other favorite books of Melissa’s are the Silence Leigh trilogy (Five-Twelfths of Heaven, Silence in Solitude, and The Empress of Earth), Dreamships, and Trouble and Her Friends.

Melissa’s books typically feature gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender characters, but their sexuality is rarely the point of the story. The characters’ sexuality is just a feature of the characters, and the cultures they live in. When she started publishing, this was new and exciting—at least for me. The one exception to the characters’ sexuality being just part of the characters and not the point of the story is Shadow Man, where a drug used to survive interstellar travel causes an increase in intersex births. This leads the culture recognize and accept five body types—except on the relatively isolated planet of Hara, where they recognize only two, male and female.

Trouble and Her Friends, Point of Dreams, and Death by Silver won Lambda Literary Awards for gay/lesbian science Fiction. Melissa also won the John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer in 1986.

After Lisa’s death, Melissa moved to North Carolina, near where her mother grew up. She has continued to write fantasy and science fiction, including more Points novels, more original science fiction, and both Star Trek and Stargate: Atlantis tie-in novels, as well as collaborations with other authors.

(11) COMICS SECTION.

(12) MEDICAL UPDATE. “Daisy Ridley Reveals She’s Been Diagnosed with Graves’ Disease: ‘I Didn’t Realize How Bad I Felt’” at Yahoo!

Daisy Ridley is opening up about her health, revealing in a new interview that she was diagnosed with Graves’ disease in September 2023.

The actress, 32, discussed her experience with the autoimmune disorder in the cover story for the September/October issue of Women’s Health, which dropped on Tuesday, Aug. 6.

“It’s the first time I’ve shared that [Graves’],” said Ridley, who had previously shared her struggle with endometriosis and polycystic ovaries.

Graves’ disease is an immune system condition that affects the thyroid gland, according to Mayo Clinic. It causes the body to make too much thyroid hormone….

(13) TERF BATTLE. The New York Times finds “A Play About J.K. Rowling Stirred Outrage. Until It Opened.”

There are more than 3,600 shows in this year’s Edinburgh Festival Fringe and most will struggle to get even a single newspaper review. Yet for months before the festival opened on Friday, one play was the subject of intense global media attention: “TERF,” an 80-minute drama about J.K. Rowling, the “Harry Potter” author, and her views on transgender women.

Before anybody had even read the script, a Scottish newspaper called the play, which imagines Rowling debating her views with the stars of the “Harry Potter” movies, a “foul-mouthed” attack on the author. An article in The Daily Telegraph said that “scores of actresses” had turned down the opportunity to play Rowling. And The Daily Mail, a tabloid, reported that the production had encountered trouble securing a venue.

On social media and women’s web forums, too, “TERF” stirred outraged discussion.

The uproar raised the specter of pro-Rowling protesters outside the show and prompted debate in Edinburgh, the city that Rowling has called home for more than 30 years. But when “TERF” opened last week, it barely provoked a whimper. The only disturbance to a performance on Monday in the ballroom of Edinburgh’s Assembly Rooms came from a group of latecomers using a cellphone flashlight to find their seats. About 55 theatergoers watched the play in silence from the front few rows of the 350-seat capacity venue….

… But the muted response to the show itself suggests that fewer British people are riled by the debate than the media coverage implies — or at least that when activists engage with potentially inflammatory art, outrage can quickly vanish.

The play’s title, “TERF” — an acronym for trans-exclusionary radical feminist — is a pejorative label that Rowling’s critics have applied to her for years. Rowling has gotten into heated debates about gender issues on social media, and she published an essay in 2020 accusing transgender activists of “seeking to erode ‘woman’ as a political and biological class and offering cover to predators.” Critics have accused her of being transphobic or anti-trans, which she has denied. Through a spokesman, she declined to comment for this article….

(14) CRUSHING LAWSUIT. “Crew of Titan sub knew they were going to die before implosion, according to more than $50M lawsuit”AP News has the story.

The family of a French explorer who died in a submersible implosion has filed a more than $50 million lawsuit, saying the crew experienced “terror and mental anguish” before the disaster and accusing the sub’s operator of gross negligence.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet was among five people who died when the Titan submersible imploded during a voyage to the famed Titanic wreck site in the North Atlantic in June 2023. No one survived the trip aboard the experimental submersible owned by OceanGate, a company in Washington state that has since suspended operations.

Known as “Mr. Titanic,” Nargeolet participated in 37 dives to the Titanic site, the most of any diver in the world, according to the lawsuit. He was regarded as one of the world’s most knowledgeable people about the famous wreck. Attorneys for his estate said in an emailed statement that the “doomed submersible” had a “troubled history,” and that OceanGate failed to disclose key facts about the vessel and its durability….

…The lawsuit goes on to say: “The crew may well have heard the carbon fiber’s crackling noise grow more intense as the weight of the water pressed on Titan’s hull. The crew lost communications and perhaps power as well. By experts’ reckoning, they would have continued to descend, in full knowledge of the vessel’s irreversible failures, experiencing terror and mental anguish prior to the Titan ultimately imploding.”…

(15) THIS HOAX IS UNUSUAL FOR BEING FONDLY REMEMBERED. “A giant sea monster shows up on Nantucket 87 years after an elaborate hoax”NPR attends the celebration.

MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST: Eighty-seven years ago, a local artist perpetrated a spectacular prank on the residents of Nantucket, the Massachusetts island. The artist, Tony Sarg, was big in his day. Edgar B. Herwick III of member station GBH was on Nantucket yesterday for a re-creation of the monstrous hoax.

EDGAR B HERWICK III, BYLINE: In the summer of 1937, artist, entrepreneur and notorious prankster Tony Sarg took his penchant for high jinks to grand new heights with a long con of sorts that began weeks before the main event.

DARIN JOHNSON: He met up with two of his fisherman friends who he coaxed into going to the newspaper and telling the newspaper that there was a sea monster spotted out in the water.

HERWICK: That’s Darin Johnson, CEO of the American Theater for Puppetry Arts and Sarg scholar. Later, these so-called firsthand accounts were augmented in the press with photos of enormous reptilian footprints on a South Shore beach, whipping the townsfolk into a frenzy.

JOHNSON: And then, on August 19, they blew up this giant balloon and floated it out in the water, and it became this huge national media sensation.

HERWICK: And it was a monster balloon – a 125-foot green monster named Morton. Parade balloons may be Sarg’s greatest legacy. After all, he designed the very first ones for the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade in 1927. But he’s also considered by some the father of modern American puppetry….

HERWICK: It’s that all-too-forgotten legacy that inspired the historical association to dub this the Summer of Sarg on the island. And yesterday was its centerpiece, Sarg Community Day….

(16) RECOMMENDED. [Item by Ed Fortune] Here is the trailer for Emily Carding’s award-winning show: Quintessence, coming to Hall 2, Sunday, August 11, 2024, at the Glasgow Worldcon. Quintessence by Emily Carding”.

A combination of cataclysmic events results in the extinction of the human race, leaving behind an AI being programmed to recreate humanity when the time is right, with the complete works of Shakespeare as a guide to the human spirit. Humanity must thrive… but at what cost? This original sci-fi storytelling show was inspired by Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein, and will leave you wondering who the real monster is. Originally created in collaboration with the London Science Museum, written and performed by award-winning actor Emily Carding (Richard III (A One-Woman show)).

[Thanks to Chris Barkley, Cat Eldridge, Ersatz Culture, Lis Carey, Daniel Dern, Dave Doering, Ed Fortune, Random Jones, SF Concatenation’s Jonathan Cowie, Steven French, Kathy Sullivan, Teddy Harvia, Mike Kennedy, Andrew Porter, and John King Tarpinian for some of these stories. Title credit belongs to File 770 contributing editor of the day Dann.]


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72 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 8/7/24 With A Purposeful Pixel And A Terrible Scroll  He Pulls The Spitting Godstalk Down

  1. @Lis — once again, I find myself responding to stuff you make up instead of what really happened.

    The people in the video were not in violation of the curfew. The curfew was “imposed in all public places within the City of Minneapolis and the City of Saint Paul.” It did not apply to private homes. The curfew banned travel “on any public street or in any public place.” It did not apply to people standing around on their front porch, minding their own business. The people who were shot at were not in violation of the curfew, or any other law, executive order, or ordinance.

  2. Bill, no it wasn’t. Here the header for the article that I’m going to give the link to. Read it ano understand that Fox isn’t to get your news. ever So here’s that header: “No, Tim Walz Did Not Enforce A MN COVID-Curfew With Paint Ball Rounds — A May 2020 video where law enforcement shot paintball rounds at Minneapolis residents is going viral, accompanied by false claims.”

  3. @Cat – I don’t understand what part of my posts you are trying to refute.

    There was a curfew order. It was in response to the George Floyd riots. I never claimed it was in response to Covid.

    Did Walz tell the troops directly “I want you to shoot citizens with paintball rounds?” I doubt it. But as governor, he was the commander of the Guard troops. He activated them. Their authority during the activation came from his orders, and as their commander, he was ultimately responsible for their actions (as is the case with all military chains of command). And in his press conference the next day, he took full responsibility for what happened.

    Reports are all consistent that troops shot paintball rounds. Paintball guns run on compressed air. But if you watch the video, you see at least one muzzle flash. I don’t know what was being shot with that round.

    This is Minneapolis under Walz:
    https://x.com/Loonbird1/status/1822960249185226779

  4. As jerryp was fond of saying, using the military for police work is generally a bad idea: they are trained not to maintain order, but to break things and kill people. On the other hand, there were riots going on, the mayor of Minneapolis was begging Walz to send in the National Guard, and Walz was widely criticized, usually from the right, for not acting sooner. Indeed, Trump has repeatedly claimed that it was he and not Walz who sent in the National Guard, in which case it would rightfully be Trump’s responsibility. (Although one might be pardoned for choosing not to believe anything Trump says.)

    On the gripping hand, there is a significant difference between paintball rounds and ordinary ammunition. If I were facing a firing squad, I know which one I would prefer.

  5. @bill–You seem to be overlooking the fact that the George Floyd protests and the height of the covid pandemic and accompanying shutdowns, mask orders, social distancing orders, were both in the summer of 2020, and not separate, discrete events.

    And while it’s easy to find criticism of how Walz handled the protests, it’s almost entirely about whether or not he took too long to deploy the National Guard.

    Even searching on Minneapolis, National Guard, 2020, paintballs, most of the results were about whether Walz was or wasn’t quick enough in deploying the National Guard. No mention of paintballs.

    I did find this, however, from a source you should like, the New York Post, with a tone you should love, about, oops, local police using paintballs to enforce the curfew in the “picturesque, trendy Whittier neighborhood” of Minneapolis.

    Not the National Guard. The local police.

    The National Guard were under Walz’s authority. The local police weren’t. The tweet from what was then Twitter says the National Guard were there, but that quoted tweet is the only mention of the Guard in the article, because the New York Post did at least minimal fact checking, and didn’t, as you have, just run with the tweet. Yes, there’s video attached. That would be wonderful evidence–if there were National Guard troops visible in the tweet. There aren’t.

    Let me repeat. The National Guard were under Tim Walz’s authority and control. The local police weren’t.

    Shocking video shows cops enforcing Tim Walz’s curfew by shooting paintballs at residents as they stood in their doorways

  6. @Lis
    “You seem to be overlooking the fact that the George Floyd protests and the height of the covid pandemic and accompanying shutdowns, mask orders, social distancing orders, were both in the summer of 2020, and not separate, discrete events.”
    No, I’m not. The curfew was directly in response to the riots, and had nothing to do with Covid. The woman who lost her business that I linked to was a result of Covid lockdowns, and had nothing to do with George Floyd.

    “Not the National Guard. The local police.”
    The woman who shot the video (Tanya Kerssen), and whose friends on the porch were shot, said that there were National Guard troops marching up the street. She was there, you weren’t. The UK Independent, which article I linked yesterday, said the Guard was there. I was easily able to find contemporary articles from USA Today and CBS that mentioned the National Guard. The Australian Broadcasting Corp. did a follow-up interview with Kerssen where she repeated that Guard troops were part of the patrol.

    “That would be wonderful evidence–if there were National Guard troops visible in the tweet. There aren’t.”
    I know you have health problems — is vision one of them? I count at least three in desert camo (in addition to the dozen or so cops in black with “Police” on their chests), plus a Guard Humvee.
    https://i.postimg.cc/c4CL3jK5/ng3.jpg

    “The National Guard were under Tim Walz’s authority and control. The local police weren’t.”

    The police were enforcing Walz’s curfew. Walz himself said the next day “Those law enforcement folks were on that street and giving those orders because I used my authority and ordered them to be there.”

    And re: the “paintballs”. These weren’t the paintballs you buy at Walmart for playing war games with toy guns. These were specialty AR-15 rounds, sold to military and law enforcement only.

  7. Why do I think if it were a GOP candidate you’d find nothing objectionable about this?

  8. Attacking Walz for something that Trump keeps trying to take credit for does seem, I don’t know, kind of weird? Almost as if they were desperate for something, anything, to throw at Walz that might possibly stick.

  9. So BIll says And re: the “paintballs”. These weren’t the paintballs you buy at Walmart for playing war games with toy guns. These were specialty AR-15 rounds, sold to military and law enforcement only.

    If you had found up this and I’m assuming you did not, you would know they are only used in close-range combat training systems.

    Simunition rounds are at the core of the FX® Training System known as the worlds most realistic close-range combat training system`. The patented, reduced-energy, non-lethal cartridges leave a detergent-based, water-soluble color-marking compound. The visible impacts allow accurate assessment of simulated lethality. They feature tactical accuracy up to 25 feet (7.6 meters). No special ballistic facilities are required. They meet the need for a force-on-force and man-to-man training system that is realistic, effective, inexpensive, adaptable and fully portable.

  10. @rochrist
    “Why do I think if it were a GOP candidate you’d find nothing objectionable about this?”
    Because you are ignorant, and you decide things based on your prejudices instead of facts? I’ve never supported police or soldiers using force against law-abiding people, no matter whose policies are being enforced.

    @Lis Carey — see comment above,

    @Jim Janney
    “Attacking Walz for something that Trump keeps trying to take credit for does seem, I don’t know, kind of weird? ” Is it weird to attack Walz for Walz policies? For things that he, Walz, is responsible for? Because that is what I’m doing. (And where did Trump try to take credit for shooting people who were minding their own business on their own front porches?)

    @Cat — “. . . they are only used in close-range combat training systems.”
    Except when they were used on Tanya Kerssen and her friends, as was reported by the NY Times on 6/12/2020. Or by the New Orleans police, as was reported by the Times-Picayune on 6/9/2020, after initial denials.

  11. @bill: previously, you wrote

    Did Walz tell the troops directly “I want you to shoot citizens with paintball rounds?” I doubt it. But as governor, he was the commander of the Guard troops. He activated them. Their authority during the activation came from his orders, and as their commander, he was ultimately responsible for their actions (as is the case with all military chains of command). And in his press conference the next day, he took full responsibility for what happened.

    But activating the troops is precisely what Trump keeps claiming that he and not Walz did. I provided links before, but here they are in all their hypertextish glory:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/28/politics/fact-check-minnesota-trump-speech-national-guard/index.html

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/donald-trump/trump-said-that-gov-tim-walz-didnt-call-in-the-nat/

  12. @Jim Janney
    When Walz did something bad, the fact that others claim responsibility for it does not absolve Walz.

  13. @bill–

    @Jim Janney
    When Walz did something bad, the fact that others claim responsibility for it does not absolve Walz.

    Trump wasn’t claiming “responsibility” as in blame for what happened. He was claiming credit for the effective control of the riots in Minneapolis.

  14. @bill: We agree! It does not. But you are imagining an argument I didn’t and would not make. What I did say was to express bafflement that anyone would raise this now as a possible campaign tactic (and if it’s making the rounds on X now it’s certainly that). Whose minds do they hope to change? Perhaps weird is not the best word, but it’s definitely puzzling.

    @Lis Carey: yeah, with Trump it’s always someone else’s fault, but he’s happy to claim credit, however falsely, for anything he thinks his supporters will like.

  15. @Jim Janney
    “What I did say was to express bafflement that anyone would raise this now as a possible campaign tactic ”

    I’m not raising it as a campaign tactic (and I’m not campaigning for either ticket — 2024 offers two bad choices for president.)

    All I am doing is responding to the original statement that there are “a number of reasons to like” Walz. Well, there are a number of reasons to dislike him as well. I’ll state also that whether or not he likes SF or is in some way a nerd are two really shallow reasons to want him as a vice president.

  16. “I’m not raising it as a campaign tactic”

    Your concern for abstract justice does you credit, but I’m not sure I can say that about all of the Xittersphere.

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