If I have to post all my comments pushing one key at a time on the Kindle I will but I won’t tackle that til later. The hotel business center computer has unusually limited capabilities (think — no right-click mouse commands). Perhaps an alternative will arise at the meetup.
Want to compliment Sasquan on the very lovely souvenir canvas bag the reg packet material came in. Green bag with a big black pocket which has the con’s bird logo in white.
And David Doering told me the shuttles intended to help moby riders have been suffering from freeloaders. So the drivers have been told to seek out those with mobys as a priority. As a result, the shuttles are now nicknamed Ahab…
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A Benandante?
@Peace
Probably. Although I’m not sure how they get away with that claim, given how much prior precedent there is for the phrase. It’s almost as absurd as TSR putting a trademark on the term “Nazi” back in the day.
Besides, a true Social Justice Space Marine would have to oppose the greedy machinations of interstellar megacorps!
Amanda Green is shocked, shocked, that someone linked to her blog where the offending letter showed up, posted by Captain Comic to her blog.
http://www.donotlink.com/getd
After beating around the bush for seven grafs, she gets around to suggesting that maybe it was an anti-puppy who did the deed: “Then my suspicious side comes out and I wonder if this was a ploy by a Puppy kicker to stir up trouble.”
False flag! False flag! Third party agitators! Blah blah blah.
I want to be a Social Justice Wizard, because SJWs always fly
Oh, dear. Sarah Hoyt is now reacting to the “removed the flyers from the freebie table” as if it were the most extreme over-reaction in the history of Worldcons. I don’t think it is, personally, but I’m most confused by her implication that Malzberg and Reznick were “thrown out” of SFWA for . . . being male, I guess? (Quote: “What the heck does it [the flyer] say that is not something we said over the throwing out Mike Resnick and Barry Malzberg thing?”) So far as I know Mike Reznick is still a member of SFWA, and if he left over the Bulletin kerfuffle, it was certainly his choice; I don’t believe that Barry Malzberg was a member of SFWA at the time . . . correct me if I’m wrong, anyone? Please? (And if anyone had recommended that they be expelled from SFWA for any of their actions or words during the whole sorry incident, I must have missed it–because if I had noticed such a opinion I would have disagreed. Vigorously. But I guarantee that there was no expulsion, and I’m pretty sure that no one took any calls for an expulsion–particularly on the grounds of being male–seriously.)
Hoyt seems particularly upset that people are worried about whether or not “Carol Wilson” is a real person. For the record, I doubt she is, but who cares? The whole thing is an unfunny joke and frankly she’s spending more pixels on it than anyone here at File 770–even if we aggregated all of the posts, I think. (Including this one, I hope!)
Oh, by the way–she also reports in an addendum that her site has “been reported as a malware vector” (and found to be not so) and that that has happened several times to MGC . . . does anyone have a clue what that means? I gather than it’s got something to do with viruses, but I’m kind of a technoklutz and I’m curious.
Oh those pesky facts. Such slippery things… Resnick & Malzberg were not thrown out of SFWA. Their column in the SFWA Bulletin was canceled; the two are hardly the same thing. But when have the pups ever let truth get in the way of a good (or bad, as the case may be) rant?
@Mary
In this context it probably means “I am being oppressed by the SJWs in a way that is impossible to prove or disprove”.
More technically it means that a site has a vulnerability (often in a script) that is (or can be) exploited to put malware on visitor’s computers. If you use Chrome you generally get a screen warning you that the page is unsafe.
Addendum: On Hoyt’s blog:
http://www.donotlink.com/framed?765715
“Captain Comic” has taken responsibility for the flyer:
“Captain Comic | August 21, 2015 at 12:39 pm | Reply
Dear Sarah,
Uh, it was me.
I changed ‘Amanda’ to ‘Carol’ specifically because Amanda is a real flesh-and-blood genre writer. To the best of my knowledge there is no SF or Fantasy writer with that name. If there is, I hereby sincerely apologize for any discomfort or response you may have suffered.
Noticed that some of them were whole cloth taken away and simply replaced them with some more.”
You can read the whole comment there; it’s several down. Donotlink doesn’t work so well when trying to link to a specific comment on a blog post. Read it for the paranoia; stay for the irony of Brad T talking about the “perpetually offended.”
What @nightengale said.
I did like the bit where Hoyt claims that CC hasn’t insulted ANYONE.(her emphasis)
I dunno, that could be a false flag Captain Comic replying to a false flag Sarah Hoyt on a false flag blog. To make the puppies look bad.
If not, thank goodness he had spare copies! Otherwise how was he ever going to win people over the puppy point of view?
When everyone has a flag, no one does.
ObIzzard: No flag? No country! That’s the rule! (That I just made up, just now!)
@Nicole
So it’s a flag, then a beer, then an airline? (To paraphrase the noted political scientist F. Zappa.)
@nightengale
Pravda 770. I get the feeling that Torgersen is a little upset over having been handed his own head every time he whines over here.
1) If you have a hard time telling your side’s satire from the other side pretending to be your side to make you look bad, you need to go home and rethink your life.
2) Crom in a hand basket, but the Rabid Puppies are inordinately easy to amuse by attempts at humor that flatter their biases. It’s like every fat joke about people they dislike is another Aristophanes for them.
@Dex: no doubt. Is Pravda 770 better or worse than “Vile 770”?
@nightengale
It’s certainly several degrees further into Torgersen’s prosecution fantasies. You know, them as the patriotic true Americans (when not so secretly wishing they were Confederate Generals) standing against the evil red hordes. Because the Hugos are totally analogous to Soviet purges, you know.
RedWombat:I am the proud owner of a Social Justice Paladin shirt!
Hunting for this online now! I’m inordinately happy it even exists. 🙂
Dex:prosecution fantasies
At first I thought this might be a typo, but some of the Puppies do enjoy indulging in prosecution revenge fantasies alternating with ones about persecution.
What a poisonous spiral that is.
Vox D is a false flag for Ted B and vice versa. 🙂
@XS
Damned autocorrect.
Yeah, there’s an unintentional connection there. I remember how gleeful they all were over Declean Finn’s weird revenge fanfic of them all driving tanks into Worldcon while David Gerrord cried.
Breaking photo of a Hugo nominee arriving at Sasquan:
http://postimg.org/image/50mbxsn2r/
ETA: Wow, wild coincidence with the post immediately above!
Hypnotosov: Thanks! I kind of got the first “meaning,” but I was genuinely wondering about the second–couldn’t figure out who might be reporting what to whom. So it’s more or less an automatic vulnerability check?
I shall await with bated breath the apology from those having theorized it was a false flag now that someone on their side has assumed responsibility.
…on second thought, might lead to hypoxia.
Great, now the Puppies are going to think you’re calling them homopoxic.
There is little need to theorize a false flag operation when something utterly typical of a group’s sense of humor and level of respect turns up.
Why does Pravda 770 always get the attention and everyone ignores Izvestia 770? Is Pravda 770 just easier to type?
The Word for Puppyspeak is Pravda.
Old Soviet saying:
I’m not sure how that relates to File770.
Google Translate says that “Wretched hive of scum and villany” translates to ?????? ???? ???????? ? ?????????? (uzhasno uley podonkov i zlodeystva) but these translations are often unidiomatic.
Well shucky darn. The Russian rendered OK in the text entry widget but isn’t rendering in the page itself. Probably the wrong encoding somewhere along the line.
There is little need to theorize a false flag operation when something utterly typical of a group’s sense of humor and level of respect turns up.
This. Especially when both Green and Hoyt were quick to assert that the sentiments contained in the “flyer” were both funny and true.
Darren Garrison saying: Breaking photo of a Hugo nominee arriving at Sasquan:
Just to be totally off-topic, where is that image actually from? I didn’t think any M4AE8’s were produced with the old-style turret. Does this belong to some collector who wanted a “more World War 2-y” appearance?
Of course, if that’s so then it’s not really a US Army vehicle, and is thus flying a false flag… maybe not quite so OT as all that.
Because why not, here are my Hugo predictions. These are not based on insider information or even analysis, but only gut instinct. This does not necessarily reflect how I voted or in what order (and in multiple cases, it does not), but who I think will win. Nor does it represent my hopes or any agenda, obviously, considering that it does not necessarily reflect my voting.
My record for predicting other awards, such as the Oscars, has been mediocre at best. That being said …
The John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer
Who I think will win it: Wesley Chu
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: No Award
Who I think will win if if I am very wrong: Kary English
Best Fan Artist
Who I think will win it: Elizabeth Leggett
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Brad W. Foster
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Ninni Aalto
Best Fan Writer
Who I think will win it: Laura J. Mixon
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Jeffro Johnson
Best Fancast
Who I think will win it: Tea and Jeopardy
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Galactic Suburbia Podcast
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Fanzine
Who I think will win it: Journey Planet
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: I do not think I will be wrong
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Semiprozine
Who I think will win it: Lightspeed Magazine
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Strange Horizons
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Beneath Ceaseless Skies
Best Professional Artist
Who I think will win it: Julie Dillon
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: I do not think I will be wrong
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Editor, Long Form
Who I think will win it: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Sheila Gilbert
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Toni Weisskopf
Best Editor, Short Form
Who I think will win it: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Mike Resnick
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form
Who I think will win it: Doctor Who, “Listen”
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Orphan Black, “By Means Which Have Never Yet Been Tried”
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Game of Thrones, “The Mountain and the Viper”
Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form
Who I think will win it: Guardians of the Galaxy
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: The Lego Movie
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Captain America — The Winter Soldier
Best Graphic Story
Who I think will win it: Ms. Marvel Volume I — No Normal
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Saga Volume III
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Rat Queens Volume I – Sass and Sorcery
Best Related Work
Who I think will win it: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: I do not think I will be wrong
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Short Story
Who I think will win it: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: Totaled, by Kary English
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Novelette
Who I think will win it: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: The Day the World Turned Upside Down, by Thomas Olde Heuvelt
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Novella
Who I think will win it: No Award
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: I do not think I will be wrong
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: I do not think I will be very wrong
Best Novel
Who I think will win it: The Goblin Emperor, by Katherine Addison
Who I think will win it if I am wrong: The Three Body Problem, by Cixin Liu
Who I think will win it if I am very wrong: Ancillary Sword, by Ann Leckie
@Kyra
I could live with that.
It usually means that somebody didn’t keep their WordPress software up to date, letting some creep post malware or something else harmful in a comment that triggered Google’s malware detector.
rcade: Thanks to you, also. As I said, technoklutz here . . .
@mjfgates I’m not the OP, but I did a search for the image and got a link to what looks like the Portuguese wikipedia entry for a the M4 on Qwika. (I don’t see the same photo on Wikipedia.)
I don’t see a source for it though. The caption seems to say a surviving early hull was refitted.
@ Mary Frances: “So far as I know Mike Reznick is still a member of SFWA, and if he left over the Bulletin kerfuffle, it was certainly his choice; I don’t believe that Barry Malzberg was a member of SFWA at the time . . . ”
Correct, my father is still a member of SFWA. He is also still the chairman of SFWA’s Anthology Committee.
Barry Malzberg was not a SFWA member.
The SFWA Bulletin shut down in mid-2013 to undergo a 6-month period of general evaluation and revamping (which wound up lasting longer than that). The controversy in question was the inciting incident, but there had been a variety of complaints about the Bulletin for a while, and the BoD stated it had been meaning to overhaul the mag for a while (but other business, such as SFWA’s years-long reincorporation process, had instead dominated BoD attention). I gather the overhaul took more than 6 months, though the mag may be back on a regular schedule now. (I’m not a SFWA member and don’t follow its activities, so I don’t know.)
It’s a WordPress problem that’s not easily fixed. Whether it shows up in the actual post is unpredictable.
Laura Resnick: Correct, my father is still a member of SFWA. He is also still the chairman of SFWA’s Anthology Committee.
Not to derail the thread, but I am a member of SFWA (though not an especially active one) and this is very good to hear. Thank you.
@Kyra: Best Novel
Who I think will win it: The Goblin Emperor, by Katherine Addison
From your post to the Hugo Gods’ ears! (WANTZ MAIA TO WIN SOOOOOOOO BAD).
@rrede:
Patience. All will be revealed soon.
The Bulletin has been coming out fairly regularly for some time now. I think they have added an electronic edition (long overdue!) although there has been a brief slow-down as the current editor had to step down for time reasons, at least if I’m recalling correctly.
Full disclosure: I draw honey badgers for it.
Also, Kyra, your predictions square with mine in most categories, except that I’d flip Ancillary and Three-Body on the last one.
@Kyra: I would be happy with your predictions. Well, except for Dramatic Presentation: I am apparently one of the few people who really liked The Winter Soldier.
I don’t have any predictions. But because I’m not a weasel, I do have victory and defeat conditions.
Aaron — I voted for Winter Soldier too! I enjoyed Guardians, but not enough to vote them ahead of Cap…
I did not end up buying a supporting membership, but the prospect that tempted me more than anything was the opportunity to vote an award for Winter Soldier. I didn’t even like the WS storyline in the comics, but I thought the movie was wonderful.
RedWombat: Full disclosure: I draw honey badgers for it.
And very nice honey badgers they are, too!