Today the Sasquan Business Meeting will consider 4/6, E Pluribus Hugo plus other unfinished business and whatever shennanigans people have left in their deck at this point.
Livebloggers welcome.
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“I’m a Sad Puppy, and I support EPH because it will keep the Rabid Puppies from hijacking our movement”
Oh, I hope that’s an accurate quote. Welcme to the Dark Side, puppies! We have cookies!
Loving all the quotes bouncing off of Rev Bob’s reference to Gandalf’s speech!
And while this may be dangerous to even mention the name, I am wondering if I’m the only one noticing a distinct absence of a certain FUD person who has been fairly regular……and hoping it continues…..
Done! The Sasquan folks gave him one at the closing ceremony. I think it’s called a Hero Award.
Of course, they did give out about fifty of those things to various affiliated and hardworking people. Is this a closing ceremony tradition or something? I’m all for staff appreciation, but it started being tedious a half hour in. Would maybe have skipped it if I’d known since I’m quite worn out at this point.
Idris Elba drinks gin and he is a Baltimore Norse god from London.
“And now for my next impression- Jessie Owens!”
GOD STALK!
(Someone had to…)
@Maximillian
What I am reminded of whenever anyone says “We have cookies”: http://ursulav.deviantart.com/art/The-Abyss-Looks-Back-62380479
Eulaliaaaaaa!
“Luke, I am your father.”
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
Okay, make sure to pull this rope tied to me when you drop the bridge, so I don’t go with it….
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“I tell myself, this is the life we chose.”
I’ve been amused to see Brad Torgersen reduced to rage-quitting his own comments, after some rather pathetic rewriting of arguments that he can’t handle. All those sanctimonious claims about loving free speech didn’t amount to even a smallish heap of beans in the end.
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
Regarding counter-slates, I doubt it. Given how much of the anti-Puppy side cited slating as their primary objection, it looks like a very bad tactic. (And I say this as someone who’s fairly neutral about the basic ethics of slates as a tactic.)
I do think that what you’re going to see is a lot of public discussion of nominations amidst the anti-Puppies. I don’t intend to run any slates on my site, but I do intend to spend the early months of 2016 running pieces about people’s nomination ballots, what they put on them, and what they liked about them. And I suspect that will make it harder (though not necessarily impossible) for slates to run the table in any categories.
Saisinko viinilistan.
Not a quote, but useful in 2 years.
@Maximillian
“I did the Kessel Run in two point seven parsnips!”
All those sanctimonious claims about loving free speech didn’t amount to even a smallish heap of beans in the end.
Inside almost every alleged libertarian is an authoritarian struggling to get out.
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“Cthulhu fhtagn!”
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
Klaatu… Barada.. something.
Teemu Leisti : To clarify, Finnish does have personal pronouns: it’s just that there is only one, non-gendered, third person singular: “hän”.
Only one?
So you’re saying it’s “hän”, solo, then?
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“I know what you’re thinking. “Did he fire six shots or only five?”
“I see your Schwartz is as big as mine.”
“Say hello to my little friend.”
Only one? So you’re saying it’s “hän”, solo, then?
I see what you did there.
Gandalf’s famous words? Um…
“Badgers? We don’t need to show you no stinking badgers!”
I see what you did there.
Well, I had to get my shot in first, didn’t I?
To which the Balrog replied, “Aristotle!”
“Spa fon.”
“Richard Geis says it needs more skin.”
“The Gestetner is out of toner.”
“Move the previous point.” (Note to self: link here to a good image of Kevin Standlee wielding an axe. There is such an image, yes?)
I missed chunks of the various days’ business meetings, because all my panels were scheduled against them. But I got to vote on the stuff I was most interested in, and I got to be there for the whole Sunday meeting.
I’m almost home now, but I had a great time, and agree fully that Kevin Standlee deserves many free drinks.
Phil Sandifer: That’s exactly what I’ve been hoping will happen. I’m not a regular reader of short fiction, so I won’t find good candidates to nominate, but if I had a couple sources that could help me narrow the field to, say, 20ish* choices, I’d be willing to invest the time to find my favorites and nominate.
* High number chosen to make it clear that this isn’t a slate.
Also, I want to join the chorus in support of Kevin Standlee et al. This was my first Worldcon. The fact that I attended (and enjoyed) the business meeting 3 out of 4 days is a testimony to their great work. It’s also a testimony to how great the regular attendees were, too – there was a great mix of care and humor that made it a pleasure to participate.
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“Ooh-oo child
Things are gonna get easier
Ooh-oo child
Things’ll get brighter”
I’m like a bad penny, sorry.
@May Tree: Well, TV usually is easier to watch one or a couple of episodes of, by design. Or maybe I’m too compulsive about how I read series (I really am a completist and want to read from the beginning!).
The larger BDP problem is really tracking them down, though! Does everyone just Torrent them?! I felt bad leaving movies off the ballot that I’d missed. ;-(
BTW I like series (who said you were a lesser fan for being into them?), though in recent years maybe I’ve rarely read super-long ones. I can recommend a couple of long-running ones, though: Pratt’s Marla Mason series is one of my faves (and I’m not much into urban fantasy)! 😀
Re. like-a-Campbell: The YA Hugo committee seems to be leaning in that direction, but I don’t know what they mean, other than a technicality. (shrug)
Touché! I’m living in a dream world about how folks approach the final ballot.
“The Gestetner is out of toner.”
This is one time when I wish someone had gotten a photo when I was under the ‘big’ plotter, pulling out a paper jam, pliers in hand. (We had four 36-inch plotters; this was one of the B&W machines that held two rolls of paper, and the jam was in the upper drawer. So I was under the pulled-out drawer.)
“Let’s get this party started!”
“You have got to be fucking kidding…”
“Death to Videodrome, long live the new flesh!”
“You’re next!”
“What in the universe is that?”
@Soon:
I wondered how long it would take for someone to get there…
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“I’ll swallow your soul!”
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“So, you’re the new HR guy?”
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
I’m not even supposed to be here today!
I just wanted to pop by and say thanks for all the support and encouragement from everyone here. EPH wouldn’t have happened without it, and I want you all to know how much I appreciate it and all of you!
Thanks so much!
Kilo
Watt’s up, Kilo?
*cough* mutter… trytheveal *cough*
“Mrs. Peel, we’re needed!”
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
“I am way too old for this shit.”
@Kilo:
Glad to do my small part, for whatever it was worth. Here’s hoping for final passage next year!
“Warriors, come out to Pla-aaaay…”
“I AM THE LAW!”
“I’m laughing at your superior intellect.”
“Ehhh, what’s up Doc?”
Gandalf’s words…
“Have you ever considered the advantages of owning a really fine set of encyclopedias?”
@P J Evans:
Even if you die.
@Teemu Leisti: In fact English does have a singular second person pronoun. It’s just that about 200-300 years ago, people stopped using it.
All I can say was I was on the fence about EPH until Keith’s excellent walk through on Friday and I was sold. Good job!
Now I have to think seriously about Kansas.
Gandalf : I’ll be back!
I, for one, am very glad to see fandom standing fast upon this bridge, facing the Balrog with those immortal words that nobody here needs me to repeat.
We were somewhere around Spokane on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like ‘I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive…’ And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to San Francisco. And a voice was screaming: ‘Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?’
“I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass…and I’m all out of bubblegum.”
A couple things – about the electronic voting issue, there’s a thing that I wanted to bring up as an argument in favor on Saturday, which I didn’t have time to (and which I wasn’t there on Sunday to bring up). Someone (I forget who) brought up open voting in California as an argument against.
The thing is, I’m from Oregon, and all our elections are done by vote-by-mail, with the option to drop-off votes in person, and we’ve done so for over a decade. The way the state makes sure voters are educated (one of the things brought up in the arguments against – worries about voters who are unable to attend the business meetings missing the arguments for and against a proposal), is the state puts out a Voter’s Pamphlet with every election.
For the voter’s pamphlet, in elections for a position, each candidate submits a description and an argument for why you should vote for them, which is put in the voter’s pamphlet.
For Ballot Measures, the text of the ballot measure is included, along with a plain-text description of what the ballot measure would do, approved by the Secretary of State’s office. People and organizations can then submit arguments for and against the ballot measure, which are also included in the voter’s pamphlet. Submissions may have to pay a processing fee to be included – I’m not sure. These arguments are included verbatim, with any spelling errors intact, though I suspect the Secretary of State’s office screens out any arguments containing slurs.
Anyway, this voter’s pamphlet is then mailed to every single household with registered voters in the state of Oregon.
Theoretically, it could be possible for a Worldcon committee to put out a similar voter’s pamphlet, which could be released as a PDF (and/or, depending on how many formatting hoops you have to jump through to do this, as a .epub file).
Moving on, @Kendall – with re:series and works in many parts. I’m kind of wondering about this with relation to the graphic novel category – would a multi-part graphic novel, like Unwritten or, say, the Neon Genesis Evangelion manga, when it’s final part has come out, count as a work-in-many-parts? I would think it does, since basically each volume is just a collection of individual chapters of a larger work.
Welp, I see Wright has been dropped from Tor and come up with some whining excuse for doing it because he’s defending his wife’s honor, and because he is the most talented writer EVAH and because PNH is the Dark Lord Satan corrupting everything argle blargle flargle flonk flonk flonk.
My guess is “mutual differences” and the sound of tearing contracts.
So – just after putting out a distress call so they could make their mortgage for a month, Wright and Lamplighter seem to have decided to put their financial future in the hands of VD and Castellia House. Yeah, I’m sure that’s going to work out juuuuuuuuust fine.