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Just this moment I am sitting in the back of the hall where the pre- and post-Hugo show will be broadcast. But I soon will migrate to the auditorium. They fixed me up with a seat in press row, which was very kind.
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a novella nomination–Bujold’s Penric’s Demon!
Unfortunately, there isn’t a version for the Kobo readers. (They can handle epubs fine. If there is one.)
WOuld this be compatible?
http://93.114.44.238/viewtopic.php?f=1293&t=1200055
999!
The problem I have with short fiction is that if it’s good, I feel the need to gaze off into space for a bit after each one going “…huh.” With a novel, it’s much easier to go into bookslurp mode.
This is not a major complaint, mind you.
@Anna Feruglio Dal Dan
I just speak Quenya at the natives very loudly and it seems to work fine.
WOuld this be compatible?
Looks like it – my thanks! [/grovel]
Or maybe not…it wants to download some other stuff first. Not cool.
*whew* that was a long read. Pinging for updates.
WillR: My plan for defying the pups is to nominate the works I think deserve the award. No more, no less. No coordinating, other than reading stuff others recommend in genuine love. Anything else, but especially voting for a work I don’t love in earnest because I imagine every other non-pup is doing it, would be losing to the pups in a way that is mountains worse than their slate crowding out the ballot.
Now the struggle is going to be to read enough.
(BTW, am I the only non-puppy who liked Tuesdays with Molakesh the Destroyer or does it just not get talked about because it didn’t make the ballot? I know some others who liked Goodnight Stars, but that made it far enough to earn discussion)
Lenora Rose: I liked Molakesh the Destroyer, too. Definitely haven’t forgotten it.
Kendall:
Being a Finn, I thought I’d help you out a little:
Go to Youtube and look for Finnish language lessons. There are plenty and some of them are quite good. To get you started:
Thank you – Kiitos.
Sorry – Anteeksi.
Where’s the restroom? – Missä on wc?
Do you have any batteries? – Onko teillä paristoja?
I would not ask for any nice local wines because growing grapes is a bit challenging in Finland. 😉 We do have some nice wines and liqueurs made out berries, though.
We Finns like our choir music *grin*.
This is another nice video.
The flash mob was supporting the first openly gay presidential candidate in Finland during the presidential elections 3.5 years ago. (This happened in January and that’s the reason for winter clothing.) The location is the main train station in Helsinki that you will see a lot of if you come to the Worldcon, because one the most convenient ways to get to the Con location Messukeskus Expo Center from central Helsinki, is to take a commuter train from the main train station to Pasila train station (it’s about 5 min by train) and then walk to Messukeskus (another 5 minutes or so).
Welcome to Helsinki!
I liked Molakesh too!
I don’t know if I’d nominate it myself, but I wouldn’t object to seeing it on the ballot next year, on its own merits.
I also got the sense that even among the Puppies, Tuesdays With Molakesh was one of the stories that was suggested by fans in the threads and had a lot of direct support – they just got the publication year wrong. Forex, there was a pro-Puppy I talked to online who gave it as his pick for a Hugo-worthy story.
Fountain of coffee through the nose, quick visit to A&E. But no keyboards were hurt!
And since I am linking, and I know my fans:
The essentialist explanations entry on Uralic languages:
Uralic
Finnish is essentially Estonian spoken in the genitive case.
–Eugene Holman
Conversely, Estonian is essentially Finnish with most unstressed and final syllables suppressed.
–Eugene Holman
Finnish is essentially bastardized Hungarian.
–Ferenc Valoczy
Finnish is essentially Japanese spoken with an Italian accent.
–John Davies
Finnish is essentially Turkish in the snow.
–Mike Taylor
Conversely, Turkish is essentially Finnish in the sun.
–Mike Taylor
Sámi is essentially Finnish spoken with a lisp and a sore throat.
–Benct Philip Jonsson
Conversely, Finnish is essentially Sámi with a PIE substrate.
–Daniel Andreasson
Ffiinnnniisshh iiss eesssseennttiiaallllyy aa llaanngguuaaggee ffoorr ppeeooppllee wwiitthh ddoouubbllee vviissiioonn.
–Clint Jackson Baker
Hungarian is essentially Finnish spoken by Czechs.
–Benct Philip Jonsson
Hungarian is essentially the noise one’s dad makes when he has accidentally hit his thumb with a hammer.
–And Rosta
Finnish is essentially Proto-Estonian.
–Benct Philip Jonsson
Estonian is essentially Finnish spoken by Swedes.
–Benct Philip Jonsson
Hungarian is essentially German with all sounds randomly shuffled.
–Egbert Lenderink
Hungarian is essentially a Scotch snap with double-long rounded vowels.
–Dan Seriff
Hungarian is essentially all counterintuitive consonant pairings.
–Dan Seriff
Finnish is essentially Hungarian spoken while drunk, freezing, and morose.
–Dan Seriff
Sámi is essentially Hungarian spoken while drunk, freezing, and standing next to a reindeer.
–Dan Seriff
Finnish is essentially Swedish with all sounds randomly shuffled.
–Egbert Lenderink
Votic is essentially Finnish with a German accent. Or perhaps with a strong Russian accent, in which case it is Estonian that is Finnish with a German accent.
–Alfredo Garcia Gonzalez
Votic is essentially extinct (25 speakers and falling).
–John Cowan
Estonian is essentially an inflecting form of Finnish whose lexicon is just Finnish mangled by syncope and apocope with a whole bunch of foreign words pretending to be native.
–Trebor Jung
Hungarian is essentially a mangling of Uralic, Turkic, Slavic, and German words, with a remarkably Uralic-esque grammar.
–Trebor Jung
Hungarian is essentially German disguised as a Uralic language with Turkic and Slavic influence.
–Trebor Jung
Estonian is essentially mumbled Finnish as written down by a German.
–Philip Newton
H?ngarian eszensialy egy lang?agy dizaind all f?rein t??risztsz t? perpleksz every aszpekt-in iz.
–Hanbing Feng
Mordvin is essentially Uralic that stayed at home. in: West Germanic (Low)
–Jörg Rhiemeier
Hungarian is essentially Finnish as spoken by Norwegians and written by Poles.
–The Multilingual Kitten
…no, by anti-Poles. No self-respecting Pole would flip s and sz around.
–spamsink
Finnish is Estonian spoken by a Hungarian with a stutter in very cold weather.
–Ken Westmoreland
Finnish is essentially a language nobody really needs to learn.
–Ivan Amaya
Votic is essentially Finnish with a German accent.
–Old Chatot
See also the Tolkien section, part of the conlang section.
I can’t wait (drops coin in Saving for Helsinki jar). Beam.
Look forward to meeting you, Terhi!
Wonder what’s Finnish for God Stalk?
::ticks the check box::
::actually ticks the check box::
@snowcrash
I am guessing something on the order of 43 syllables including 60+ vowels and a couple of syncopations.
Wonder what’s Finnish for God Stalk?
Jumalakyttäys for stalking a god
@snowcrash
… and then…
Literally lol’d 🙂 I never remember that damn box!
Everything I know about Finland, I learned from folk metal*. Which is to say that if I make it to Helsinki I look forward to running through a forest while carrying an axe and shield.
*Do you like polkka? Do you like metal? They’re even better together
What’s Finnish for “Don’t take this the wrong way, but I find you very interesting and I would like to talk more, would you like to come to my hotel room for coffee?”
[he asks, innocently…]
MaxL:
Polka and metal? Well, try Eläkeläiset.
Likewise Hampus! 🙂
It might be, but is it an honest copy? It looks kind of piratey. I mainly read on Kobo, but I buy most eBooks from Amazon and convert them to ePub using Calibre.
or
Jumalavaaninta
or
Jumalaväijyntä
or
Jumaljahti (a bit old-fashioned sounding shortened from from Jumalajahti) that sounds rather good in Finnish but “jahti” is more like a hunt (God is Jumala in Finnish, or if a god, just jumala).
God Stalker is Jumalavaanija, Jumalaväijyjä or Jumalakyttääjä. 😉
That was hilarious! Thanks for the links!
Everything I know about Finland, I learned from Finnish artist Minna Sundberg.
Which reminds me, I should put Stand Still, Stay Silent Book 1 on my nomination list for Best Graphic Story. And since I’ve benefited from many a recommendation here on File 770, let me recommend it to anyone who enjoys post apocalyptic sci Fi.
My source says… Ei millään pahalla, mutta sä olet erittäin mielenkiintoinen. Lähekkö kahville mun hotellihuoneeseen niin voidaan jutella lisää
> “Ei millään pahalla, mutta sä olet erittäin mielenkiintoinen. Lähekkö kahville mun hotellihuoneeseen niin voidaan jutella lisää”
*slaps Iphinome in the face, stalks off*
Kyra on August 24, 2015 at 4:04 am said:
Surely you meant “God Stalks off”?
*Holds a hand to her face* S-she noticed me. 🙂
Kyra on August 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm said:
All of them will, however, be waiting at least until I finish the Tredana Trilogy by Joyce Ballou Gregorian because I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR LITERALLY MORE THAN THREE DECADES TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS TO SYBIL.
I have very bad news and good news. Joyce Ballou Gregorian died in 1991. The Great Wheel was published by New York: Ace, 1987, ISBN 978-0-441-30257-4 .
Now, for Sanditon and The Universal Pantograph, you’re on your own.
> “I have very bad news and good news. Joyce Ballou Gregorian died in 1991. The Great Wheel was published by New York: Ace, 1987, ISBN 978-0-441-30257-4 ”
I am aware of this now. But I’d given up on looking for the third book sometime around 1984 or so (book two came out in 1977), and had always assumed the trilogy had never been competed. A chance comment by Kelly Link in an interview made me aware it had actually been finished after all. Hence, my three decade wait to find out the ending.
@CPaca
“Mennäänkö mun huoneeseen kahville?”
@kyra
What was the kelly link interview ? it’s been ages since I read the great wheel.
I was so very, very disappointed with The Great Wheel. To me, it felt like an utter betrayal of the two previous books. I read it twice, and have never been able to return to the trilogy since then. I so very much loved The Broken Citadel and it lives in my heart. But I fear to read it again, because I know I won’t be able to stop before The Great Wheel and TGW will break my heart yet again. I was happier when I thought the trilogy had never been completed.
@Terhi: Kiitos! 😉 Anteeksi for the late reply.
Well, here’s hoping they at least have some tango at Helsinki so (I mean, getting that close to the home of Tango in Europe and missing that opportunity? Yikes!)
God Stalk!