A Worldcon in Saudi Arabia?

CoNZealand has received and accepted two bids for the 2022 Worldcon — JeddiCon, a bid to hold the Worldcon in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and a bid for Chicago, Illinois, USA. 

Their bid materials will be posted on the CoNZealand website in the next week or so. Site Selection ballots and payment systems are expected to be available in April.

JEDDICON IN 2022. With a web domain — https://jeddicon.com/ — that was just created on January 6, and a bid Council that first came into effect on January 26, the bid for Jeddah has only had a public face for a few weeks.

However, they did file with CoNZealand by the January 31 deadline to be on the Site Selection ballot. (For the record, when File 770 inquired on January 25 neither 2022 bid had yet filed.)

The JeddiCon bid proposes to hold the 2022 Worldcon in Jeddah, the second-largest city in Saudi Arabia, at the King Faisal Conference Center.

The bid committee styles itself the Jeddi High Council, led by Master of the Order Yasser Bahjatt (Yoda), who was born in Michigan but has lived in Jeddah since he was 5. He is a computer engineer by profession, but also is the author of Yaqteenya: The Old World, “the first Arabian alternative history novel.”

The bid website adds:

Yasser has been actively building the SciFi culture in Arabia since 2012 when he announced the Initiative Yatakhayaloon that he co-founded with his parter Ibraheem Abbas to jump start the contrary SciFi culture in Arabia (TED Talk). Since then he has been attending the WorldCon to talk about Arabian SciFi and to promote it globally.

Other committee members are Grandmaster Khalid Alsameti (Kenobi), Lore Keeper Rami Hamzah (R2-D2), Ahmad Sabbagh (Ackbar), Dr. Ashraf Fagih (Anakin) a Saudi writer and novelist, Mohammed Albakri (Mace), Raneen Bukhari (Rey), Tamim Kashgari (Tarkin), and Thamer Alturaif (Vader).

File 770 sent an inquiry through the contact page on their website asking about their conrunning experience but has yet to receive a reply.

As is well known, visitors to Saudi Arabia are subject to various cultural and religious restrictions, which can be read about in the entry on the country’s “Local laws and customs” posted by the government of the United Kingdom. Some of these include —

…Local laws require men and women to dress modestly covering shoulders and knees in public, avoiding tight-fitting clothing or clothes with profane language or images. It is not mandatory for female travellers to wear the traditional robe or abaaya. Information on important laws and etiquette around dress codes is available to visitors on the Visit Saudi website.

…Homosexual or extra-marital sexual relations, including adultery, are illegal and can be subject to severe penalties. It’s also illegal to be transgender. Transgender people travelling to Saudi Arabia are likely to face significant difficulties and risks if this is discovered by the authorities. See our information and advice page for the LGBT community before you travel.

CHICAGO IN 2022. The Chicago bid has been wooing voters for a few years now. Their most recent Smofcon questionnaire, Chicago for Worldcon 80 in 2022, said, “We will likely be at the Hyatt Regency Chicago in downtown Chicago, the site of four prior Chicago Worldcons.”

Proposed Site: Chicago, IL
Proposed Dates: September 1-5, 2022
Bid Chairs: Helen Montgomery and Dave McCarty.
Website: Chicago in 2022 Worldcon Bid
Facebook: Chicago Worldcon

The bid chairs have extensive Worldcon running experience, as do the many committee members listed in the Smofcon questionnaire.

56 thoughts on “A Worldcon in Saudi Arabia?

  1. @JJ: “making connections” wouldn’t have required going to Nice (at either their expense or the government’s) — especially with the Worldcon in Dublin last summer.
    I have seen Yalow quoted as arguing that a major failing of the San Francisco Worldcon (1993) was that they thought people would volunteer to them, rather than realizing that they had to ask people to help. I’m not a good counterexample — my last couple of Worldcon jobs at least started with recruitment, although I expanded them as they went along — but ISTM that at some point the people seen as influencers should be taking their own steps. (For one incomplete example of why I don’t attempt to influence, see NESFA Standing Rules section 3.2(3)M.)

  2. Chip Hitchcock: “making connections” wouldn’t have required going to Nice

    No, and like you, I would hope that at least some of the Worldcon SMOFs have reached out to the Nice bid and offered to help.

  3. On the original topic of Saudi Arabia: Oh, hell no. No matter how nice the individuals in charge.

    Olav Rokne:

    The more I think about it, the more I think Calgary would be an excellent place for a Worldcon.

    Calgary hosted what seemed to me to be a fairly successful World Fantasy Con not crazy-long ago, which indicates it probably has as much experience and expertise for running a Worldcon as one can have without having run a Worldcon. (Admittedly, I used the SCA crash-space route and walked to the convention). I would love to see one in Edmonton, and Edmonton isn’t shy about keeping its downtown up to date. Both cities seem plausible from here.

    For BC, I suspect, though I don’t know for sure, that there are a few other cities besides Vancouver that could handle Worldcon facilities wise (all of which would be cheaper than one of the most expensive cities in the country), but I know nothing about how much fandom is in any of them.

    I do bristle a little at saying that Winnipeg is not in Western Canada, as it is by the standards of pretty much anyone not Albertan or further West still, but it is a long long distance from Alberta or BC, and 1994 is a long time ago even if it did qualify. (I graduated High School in 1994). I still wouldn’t mind seeing us try to host it again, either, but I can’t see it in the current state of our fandom.

    (I honestly don’t think anywhere in Saskatchewan has the facilities or the fandom, though Regina is a nicer city than it’s sometimes given credit for.)

  4. How about having it in Toronto again, or if not in Toronto, in one of the cities that is contiguously bordered with Toronto (Missauagua, Brampton, Newmarket) or in one of the cities 2 hours drive from Toronto in Southern Ontario (Hamilton, Burlington, Kitchener/Waterloo, Niagara Falls). All of those other cities have hotels with convention facilities nearby, and could host a World Con quite well.

  5. @Blake Redfield–Great idea! Now, all you have to do is persuade Toronto fandom to organize a bid for another Worldcon in their area. Worldcon members aren’t able to vote for a bid that doesn’t exist.

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