15 thoughts on “Chengdu Committee Update on Hugo Ballot Delay”

1. Clickity

   I should be asleep, and probably am.

2. Professional? Not.
   Well, something involving a free election surely must be a strange concept for Chinese.

3. Currently we are contacting individuals one by one to confirm the acceptance of the nomination.

   Well this at least tells us where things have progressed to.

4. Sigh again. Not entirely unexpected

5. They’ve announced this on Twitter and Facebook, but still haven’t said anything about the delay on their Chinese social media. Either it’s a deliberate decision not to tell Chinese fans or they have no sort of system for sharing information between their English and Chinese comms teams – either way it’s not exactly inspiring.

6. Click

7. I eagerly await the Hugo nominations. I hope we don’t have problems voting.

8. OK, ok, I’ll accept. Sorry for holding up the nomination awaiting a better offer.

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10. Two things – first, I wonder if the “E Pluribus Hugo” nominating system gave the tabulators any problems this time. Not that it’s especially complicated in principle, but it might be difficult if someone decided to write an EPH tabulation program from scratch, or worse, try to tabulate the nominations without a computer.

    Second, how long does it usually take the Hugo administrators to contact the nominees prior to the announcement? If the answer is “not very long,” then could there be some sort of issue with contact info (or lack thereof)? Is it maybe harder for Chinese fans to reach Chinese pros than for Anglophone fans to reach English-language writers? (And are there maybe contact issues with Chinese nominees in the fan categories themselves?)

    Given the recent unpleasantness with the Puppies’ Hugo shenanigans, and given political friction over the very idea of a Chinese Worldcon (I know at least one fan who, with good reason, believes they would be risking their freedom just setting foot in mainland China), it’s easy to believe the worst about the nomination announcement delays. However, I think it’s at least as likely that people are doing the best they can in a difficult situation, with the difficulties perhaps (but not necessarily) compounded by lack of experience.

11. how long does it usually take the Hugo administrators to contact the nominees prior to the announcement?

    In the past 15 years, it has been around 2 to 4 weeks between nominations closing and the finalist announcement. Don’t know how much of that is usually the contacting the nominees part. But we’re almost 2 months past nominations closing now.

12. In the past 15 years, it has been around 2 to 4 weeks between nominations closing and the finalist announcement. Don’t know how much of that is usually the contacting the nominees part. But we’re almost 2 months past nominations closing now.

    Yeah, that makes me think there was some sort of difficulty during the tabulation process itself, though trouble with contacting nominees can’t be ruled out.

13. I wonder how they are trying to contact authors, and how many are Western or non-Chinese.
    Is email the preferred method? Does the average Chinese Hugo Administrator have good access to a list of email addresses for Chinese, or non-Chinese, authors?
    Are emails from within China to foreign countries subject to scrutiny that slows them down?
    How much does the language barrier between Chinese con officials and non-Chinese authors complicate things?

14. Speaking as someone who has been a Hugo finalist three times now, you normally receive the e-mail very quickly, two or three days after nominations close. If someone ahead of you withdraws or is found ineligible, it can take longer for them to contact you. The time until nominations are announced is waiting for everybody to reply (and e.g. dramatic presentation finalists may not always reply right away), sort out eligibility issues and compile all the necessary info, e.g. whom to list for the magazine and podcast finalists, how to pronounce names and titles, etc…

    Besides, I have massive issues even receiving e-mails from Chengdu, because my e-mail provider doesn’t let them through. They never even reach the spam folder. Now I didn’t expect to be nominated this year, but I doubt I’m the only one whose e-mail provider doesn’t let e-mails from Chengdu through.

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