Demon with a Glass Hound 5/30

aka The Pup Who Circumnavigated Hugoland In A Slate Of His Own Making

The roundup includes Lela E. Buis, Samantha Noll, David Gerrold, Max Florschutz, Vox Day, Alexandra Erin, Jim McCoy, David Mack, Wei Ming Kam, Lis Carey, Pluviann, Chad Orzel, Bonnie McDaniel, Ursula Vernon, May Tree, Laurie Mann and less identifiable others. (Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editors of the day Jim Henley and Alexandra Erin. Update: In case you’re keeping score at home, the subtitle is similar to one previously contributed by DMS, but not identical.)

Lela E. Buis

“SJWs in space” – May 30

The Puppies debate has some interesting facets, and it’s also an unusual opportunity to observe a little human behavior. One of the main accusations of the Puppies’ spokesmen Theodore Beale (aka Vox Day), Brad Torgersen and Larry Correia is that SF&F has been taken over by social justice warriors (aka SJW) who are pushing a liberal and literary agenda while forcing out old fashioned, right-leaning SF&F. I’ve just been reading about social justice, as it turns out. According to Professor Michael Reisch the definition of social justice is fairly open to question. This mutability means that different groups tend to co-opt the activist strategy and organize to advance their own definition of what social justice really is. Clearly, the Puppies have taken on the mantle and have now become social justice warriors, the very thing they have been loving to hate.

Samantha Noll on Dispatches from the Philosophy of Science Association’s Women’s Caucus

“A War of Words and Ideas: Philosophy, Science Fiction, and the Hugo Award Controversy” – May 30

So why is this important for society in general and for philosophers of science in particular? The answer to this question may become clearer when we reflect on why fringe groups are escalating their campaigns in science-fiction and other genres aimed at disenfranchising and silencing entire groups of people. As Kameron Hurley of The Atlantic argues “the truth is that our wars of words and narrative matter, especially those that tell us what sorts of possible futures we can build—and groups like Gamergate, Sad Puppies, and Rabid Puppies understand this.” During a time where the United States is becoming ever more diverse and citizens’ views ever more liberal, the push to suppress this trend is becoming ever more rabid, to appropriately apply Beale’s terminology. Barring those writing from diverse standpoints from receiving formal recognition helps to limit the exposure of these works and thus silences the authors. This is one of the reasons why it is important for those living in a democratic and multicultural society to ensure that those like Beale and Correia are not successful.

David Gerrold on Facebook – May 29

Worldcons, as we know them, have been around since 1939. Hugos have been awarded since 1953

Thousands of people have invested an enormous amount of time and energy into keeping the traditions of the World Science Fiction Convention going. Thousands have invested an enormous amount of time and energy in developing an award system designed to acknowledge excellence in the craft.

No award system is perfect — but it’s hard to argue with a system that has recognized the excellence of Dune, Left Hand Of Darkness, Starship Troopers, Ringworld, The Stars My Destination, Dragonflight, Stand On Zanzibar, Flowers For Algernon, City On The Edge Of Forever, Aye And Gomorrah, Blink, and other works that not only represent the best of the year — they also redefine what’s possible in the genre.

To some extent, there is an element of popularity in the voting. To some extent, there is an element of promotion by publishers and authors. To a larger extent, the problem with the Hugos is that the field has gotten so big and so sprawling that it’s impossible for any fan to be as widely read as in the past. This is why recommended reading lists are a great help.

There’s also a tradition of respect in fandom.

David Gerrold on Facebook – May 29

Some people have advocated going to Amazon and Goodreads and other sites to post one-star reviews of works by authors whose views they oppose.

Please, don’t do it.

It’s a failure of integrity.

If you’ve read the work, then post your honest opinion, good or bad. But punishing an author by down-voting his/her work — that’s not fair to the author, to the work, or to readers who are looking for useful reviews.

If you’re claiming to be one of the good guys, you gotta act like it.

Max Florschutz on Unusual Things

“I’m Not a Fan of Science-Fiction and Fantasy?” – May 30

I may not be a Science-Fiction and Fantasy fan.

Which is shocking. I always thought I was one. But no, according to a lot of these posts and comments I’m seeing and reading, I am not a “fan.” Or, to use the terms that some of the insulars have started to use, I am not a “trufan,” a term which, quite honestly, reminds me quite a bit of the ridiculous amount of self-inflicted (and mostly declarative) segregation in the gaming community between the “PC Master Race” and the “Console Gaming Peasants.” The console gamers aren’t really gamers, you see. They’re just casuals.

Caitlin on Devourer of Words

“Why I am voting for the Hugo Awards this year” – May 30

In general, I am disappointed that a small number of people think they have the right to dictate what the genres of sci-fi and fantasy consist of. In particular, people like Vox Day make me physically ill, and I don’t want promising new authors with awesome new ideas to leave the genre because of them. Vox Day in particular deserves to be defended against: this is a guy who doesn’t believe women should be allowed to vote…

 Vox Day onVox Popoli

“Eric Flint, SJW”

You know, we’ve wondered who was going to the new Hitler ever since Mahmoud Ahmadinejad proved to be such a washout in that regard. My money was on Putin, so I had absolutely no idea it would turn out to be me. Someone get Hugo Boss on the line, we’re going to need some snappy new outfits for the VFM, stat! Let’s address the issues as Mr. Flint, real deal SJW, puts them forth.

  1. I don’t share Hitler’s views on race, as I have a basic grasp of human genetics and I am neither a eugenicist nor an Aryan supremacist.
  2. On the subject of Jews, I am a Zionist who edits and publishes the eminent Israeli military historian Dr. Martin van Creveld.
  3. I’m not opposed to women learning to read and write. I am opposed to women being encouraged to obtain advanced degrees in the place of husbands and children. Unlike Mr. Flint, I can do the demographic math.
  4. I don’t support honor killings. I never have.
  5. I don’t hide what I really believe. Mr. Flint claims to know what I really believe without me ever putting it into words because, and I quote, “peekaboo”. If anyone is “a fucking clown” here, it is observably Mr. Flint.
  6. I’m not trying to win Hugo Awards. I don’t care about winning awards.
  7. I have no delusions of grandeur. I’m not the one who keeps running to The Guardian, Entertainment Weekly, The New Zealand Herald, NPR, Popular Science, or the Wall Street Journal to talk about me. I haven’t issued a single press release or called a single member of the media about the Hugo Awards or anything else, for that matter.
  8. Western civilization is in peril. In large part thanks to idiots like Mr. Flint.
  9. I don’t like to portray myself with a flaming sword. That was the brainchild of the Star Tribune photographer who was taking pictures of me for a story the paper was doing. Apparently he was onto something, as it’s an image many people have remembered….

Alexandra Erin on Blue Author Is About To Write

“How big is the doghouse?” – May 30

So, Kate Paulk has been tapped as the standard-bearer of next year’s Sad Puppies campaign. She has declared that next year’s Hugo ballot-stuffing initiative will be done in a transparent and democratic manner. This does not fill one with confidence, since Brad Torgersen has made the same claims about this year’s ballot-stuffing initiative.

It also needs to be pointed out that it hardly matters who leads the Sad Puppies campaign or what they do or how they do it, as this year’s otherwise failed campaign only managed to achieve accidental relevance through the fact that the successful Rabid Puppies campaign largely copied and pasted their agenda.

With all that in mind, I have to say that I’m interested in Kate Paulk’s post about what she considers to be Hugo-worthy work only as an academic matter. If the list she assembles using it winds up being the ballot, it will likely be only because someone truly nasty as well as small-minded got behind her and started shoving, as happened this year.

Jim McCoy on Jimbos Awesome SFF Book and Movie Reviews

“Kate Paulk’s ConVent” – May 30

Before I get too far into the book, I wanted to mention Kate’s involvement with the Sad Puppies. She is next year’s evil, evil, evil ringleader. If you support evil, mean people who evilly think that you should evilly vote for good fiction written by evil people who evilly put story over message (because they’re evil) she’s worth supporting. Oh, and her book also kicks ass, but we’ll get to that in a minute. I just wanted to take a minute to give evil praise to Her Evilness, The Duchess of Snark. Does that make me evil? Probably. I’m OK with that. Now, onto the book.

Vox Day on Vox Popoli

“The Ones Who Walk Away from Fandom” – May 30

It’s more than a little amusing. And those who walk away are the wise ones, because, as it has been sung:

Never kick a dog
Because it’s just a pup
You’d better run for cover when the pup grows up!

Wei Ming Kam on Fantasy Faction

“The pros and cons of the voting processes behind major SFF awards: Part 2” – May 31

This year, there is reportedly a massive upsurge in people buying supporting memberships of Sasquan, so basically people want to vote in the awards but have no interest in going to the con. Normally, the number of people who vote in the awards is small, so it’s reasonable to say that the upsurge is a result of the resentful manchildren making this year’s awards political. SADFACE. SAD SASQUATCH SADFACE.

Lis Carey on Lis Carey’s Library

“The Revenge of Hump Day–Hugo Nominated Best Fanzine” – May 31

It’s all perfectly competently and clearly written. I’m sure it’s well-received by its intended audience. On the other hand, I don’t see any exceptional excellence.

Lis Carey on Lis Carey’s Library

“Sex Criminals Volume 1:One Weird Trick (Sex Criminals #1-5), by Matt Fraction (writer) Chip Zdarsky (artist)” – May 30

This one I did not expect to like. I got a surprise. It’s intelligent, thoughtful, does some really interesting things, and Suzie, as an adult, is a librarian, and a well-done librarian is always a win for me, Yes, it’s self-indulgent. So sue me.

Pluviann on The Kingfishers Nest

“On a Spiritual Plain – Lou Antonelli” – May 30

Imagine a great caravan of giant aliens travelling across a bleak and open plain, above them the most glorious auroral display fills the sky, and travelling with them is a human chaplain on a segway enclosed by faraday cage. This image comes from Lou Antonelli’s ‘On a Spiritual Plain’ and it deserves fanart. It’s the best part of the short story, and the idea of a faraday segway in particular really tickled me.

Award-Winning Reading

“Best Fan Artist” – May 28

Fun fact: I almost voted No Award for this entire category. Now I’m voting for Elizabeth Leggett and No Award for everything else. I went looking at each nominees website to make sure that I was looking at everything that is award eligible. Ninni Aalto, Brad W. Foster and Steve Stiles all have similar styles (to my very untrained eye) that just does not appeal to me. Add in that I didn’t find the subject matter that interesting, and there is no reason for me to vote for any of them. I like that Spring Schoenhuth’s work consists mostly of jewelry. I don’t really recognize most of it though, and again the style doesn’t really appeal to me, so I won’t vote for her.

Award Winning Reading

“Totaled by Kary English” – May 29

There is some science talk in this story, but it was unobtrusive and easy to understand. It was just enough to give the story weight without pulling attention away from the storyline. The writing is beautiful. Descriptive, but concise. It really drew me into the story in a way that I was not expecting.

Award-Winning Reading

“On a Spiritual Plain by Lou Antonelli” – May 28

I liked the writing style. Not overly wordy but descriptive enough to ground the reader. I do also like that the story made me confront the idea that I decided what the story was about when I was halfway through and then got mad when it didn’t follow like I thought it should. While I’m a bear to be around when that happens, I like to be reminded that authors can do whatever they please without catering to my idea of what it should be.

Chad Orzel on Uncertain Principles

“Hugo Reading: Not-Novels” – May 30

In the short fiction categories, two of the longer nominees were weirdly incomplete. “Flow” by Arlan Andrews and “Championship B’Tok” by Edward Lerner are perfectly fine, but just… stop. I wouldn’t object to reading more in either setting, say if these were the introductory chapters of longer novels, but as self-contained stories, they’re kind of lacking.

“The Triple Sun: A Golden Age Tale” by Rajnar Vajra is a complete alien-contact story, and good enough in a Heinlein-pastiche sort of vein. It’s maybe a little shaggy, but it’s enjoyable enough. “The Day the World Turned Upside Down” by Thomas Olde Heuvelt is kind of stupid and pointless, featuring a world where gravity literally reverses itself after the narrator gets dumped. I’m not sure it’s all that much more stupid and pointless than last year’s “The Water That Falls On You From Nowhere,” though, and that ended up winning, so…

“A Single Samurai” by Steven Diamond is built around the nice image of a samurai climbing up the back of a mountain-sized monster in an attempt to kill it, but doesn’t quite pay off, and the bits where the narrator explains samurai stuff were kind of tedious. “Totaled” by Kary English may have been the best of the lot, a brain-in-a-vat story that had some genuine emotional content.

I don’t think any of these are brilliant, but I didn’t find any of them strikingly awful, either (“The Day The World Turned Upside Down” comes closest, but remained at “sigh heavily but keep reading” rather than “close the file and move on to the next thing”). I suspect there were probably better stories out there, but I say that almost every year that I read the short-fiction nominees, so…

Adult Onset Atheist

“Don’t crush THAT Hugo, hand me the SNARL” – May 30

Decades later I would find out that “Don’t Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers” did not barely lose out to “No Award”, and that “Blows Against the Empire “ by Jefferson Starship had actually come in second place. I know that the Jefferson Starship supergroup that put out “Blows Against the Empire” was not really the same band that “Built This City” in  1985 (“Worst song of the 80s” by a Rolling Stone Reader’s poll), but the fact that they had the same name, and several of the same members, makes me think it was better that “No Award” won in that year. In addition to the dubious distinctions of most “No Award” winners, and for propelling films like “Flesh Gordon” (nominated 1975) to prominence, the Best Dramatic Presentation has been a place where stories too far ahead of their time could be reconsidered in a digested visual format some of the members of fandom could better relate to.

Bonnie McDaniel on Red Headed Femme

“The Hugo Project: ‘Wisdom From My Internet’” – May 30

I picked “Wisdom From My Internet” to review first, mainly to see if all the rumblings I’ve heard about it are true, and it is indeed the worst thing to disgrace the ballot in decades.

May I be perfectly frank for a moment?

Great Cthulhu, kill me now.

What the hell is this shit?

I really don’t want to hurt Michael Z. Williamson’s feelings, but I’m afraid it’s going to be unavoidable.

May Tree in a comment on File 770 – May 29

Voting for Noms On a Summer Evening

Whose noms these are I think I know.
His blog is quite a silly show;
He will not see me stopping here
His lousy choices to forego.

My Siamese Cat must think it queer
To stop without a Hugo near
But I must set aside this slate
And vote again another year.

These stories, at best second-rate,
Were stuffed by Pups (and GamerGate?!)
The rockets they would try to sweep
Their wounded egos to inflate.

The Puppy Poop is much too deep,
My sanity I’ll have to keep,
And “No Award” before I sleep,
And “No Award” before I sleep.

Laurie Mann on Facebook – May 30

This is not a joke. This group, Snarky Puppy, is playing in the INB Theater 3 months after the Hugo Awards are presented in the same building.  http://www.inbpac.com/event.php?eventID=270

Snarky Puppy


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466 thoughts on “Demon with a Glass Hound 5/30

  1. Owlmirror: I had thought of it this way; perhaps others have as well: Le Guin, as I understand it, was specifically inspired by theology; by the idea of the world and/or hell and heaven having at least some suffering of innocents

    I interpreted it in economic terms. I thought the point she was making was that our (general our, Western our) comfort and lifestyles are built, necessarily, on the exploitation of the poor, both the poor of our own countries and that of the Third World.

    The child in the cupboard represents the suffering of those who clean our homes and offices for minimum wage and who make shoes and clothes for $2 a day, and occasionally (as in that clothing factory that collapsed) lose their lives doing it.

    I didn’t think religion came into it.

  2. Ah, Shambles, I delurked in the other thread to tell you that the book you asked about before ( with the disgraced special ops soldier and the investigation into cultists) is Gameboard of the Gods.

    Also, thank you, mr. Glyer for your diligent effort in chronicling this all.

  3. @Jim Henley:

    Vampires and werewolves. It’s a paranormal romance jibe.

    Oh, so he should have written quasicanids, or something like that.

  4. Oh, if he knew (or thought he knew) that it was authorized by his approved God, Wright would be in there putting the boot on anyone even talking about whether it might be desirable to rescue or even comfort the child.

    If only there was a real-world example of a group that believes in a child being sacrificed so everyone else could attain the bliss of heaven. Like if someone once chose a specific child and sacrificed them for the sins of everyone else. If only there were such an example available.

  5. >> Unless you enjoy older gentlemen spanking young schoolgirls (who happen to be goddesses in disguise).>>

    You know, whenever people mention this, it makes be want to read it.

    Not because I have a spanky fetish (I hope!), but because it makes me incredulously curious as to how it’s set up.

    Sadly, I think I used to own a copy of ORPHANS OF CHAOS, but I think it lingered unread until it was donated to the library.

  6. @Valor on May 31, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Thanks for the title Valor it was driving me to distraction trying to remember.

  7. @Going To Maine:

    Would Wright be so cavalier about freeing the child if he were told that the Omelas was in fact created and maintained by his own God?

    I think that Wright would be justified in objecting if you told him as much, and would say that no, it’s maintained by your God.

    Obviously not. Wright is the one who believes in God, and presumably has certain additional beliefs about God besides God’s existence.

    I mean, there is a theological debate to be had hear (though I don’t really want to have it),

    OK.

    but you don’t get to sort of arbitrarily claim to have won.

    I didn’t claim that I had won, arbitrarily or otherwise.

  8. “So they would need something like Willpower saving throws every turn.”

    Excellent touch. So in addition to losing their bonuses if the child escapes, they make roles for Willpower, with the actual roll visible only to the individual player and DM, and announced by the player.

    “Huh. Once again, the entire party has failed their Willpower rolls. How close are we to the treasure now?”

  9. Wait, will power throws at every turn? Sure, if you are gambling with dice.

  10. Some potential nominees for “best graphic story” in 2015:

    The Sculptor by Scott McCloud. This is a superhero yarn, of sorts; a sculptor winds up with the superpower of being able to be super-productive and produce new works almost as fast as he can think them. As well as being an engaging story (although a pretty traditional one – it’s a love story, there’s a deal with death, etc), the layouts and cartooning are just exquisite. Plus, I love that it’s a completed story in one volume, unlike any of this year’s nominees.

    If a new volume of Jenn Manley Lee’s webcomic Dicebox comes out in 2015, that would probably be Hugo-worthy. Lee is doing some incredible work.

    Also from webcomics, if a new volume of Dylan Meconis’ Family Man comes out, that’ll be worth considering.

    I haven’t read Noelle Stevenson’s Nimona yet, but the word of mouth on that one has been great. Ditto for a not-yet-released shorter work, The Oven by Sophie Goldstein.

  11. @MPMRommel & @Jim Henley:

    Something that bothers me specifically is the unstated causal mechanism: What exactly is it that is supposed to bring about happiness from one child’s misery? It doesn’t make sense to me, unless I posit that some powerful supernatural entity is the actual cause of the state of Omelas.

    Perhaps some might argue that the putative supernatural entity is the devil, but this is unsupported because nothing bad is implied to be the fate of those who have presumably accepted the devil’s bargain. You either accept Omelas and remain happy in the knowledge that it is at the expense of a miserable child, or you leave.

    But I guess the economic or metaethical or other interpretations are valid, given that Le Guin offers the scenario as intended to be a parable, and causal mechanisms may be unnecessary for those interpretations.

  12. To the people who posted recommendation lists: Thanks! I learned about five new authors from this thread.

    Stevie: All in all, I think it’s probably just as well that puppydum is not expected to learn languages in which nouns have genders…

    Denna är en anledning till varför svenska är så svår. That sentence took me about 5-10 minutes to construct. Did I mess up?

    Also, isn’t VD trilingual or something?

  13. Whym on May 31, 2015 at 2:09 pm said:
    To the people who posted recommendation lists: Thanks! I learned about five new authors from this thread.

    Stevie: All in all, I think it’s probably just as well that puppydum is not expected to learn languages in which nouns have genders…

    Denna är en anledning till varför svenska är så svår. That sentence took me about 5-10 minutes to construct. Did I mess up?

    Also, isn’t VD trilingual or something?

    I don’t know what he claims. I’ve only seen him use phrasebook Italian, and his Latin is, frankly, atrocious.

  14. >> The Sculptor by Scott McCloud. This is a superhero yarn, of sorts; >>

    It’s a story in which a character is granted paranormal abilities, at least, but it’s not a superhero story.

  15. malcolm on May 31, 2015 at 2:15 pm said:
    Vox Day defines Pink SF: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/06/what-is-pink-sff.html

    Well, that’s pretty ill-defined. What is “sexual deviancy?” Is it what went on in “Stranger in a Strange Land?” And what is “rejects Christianity?” Does “Lord of the Rings” count because there is no Christianity in it?

  16. >> Wait, will power throws at every turn? Sure, if you are gambling with dice.>>

    Tuomas apparently doesn’t know how role-playing games work, either. Or perhaps he’s forgotten the context of the discussion already.

    Maybe there are some reviews he could look up that would enlighten him.

  17. causal mechanisms may be unnecessary for those interpretations.

    Since in the story itself Le Guin redefines the city multiple times, I think the causality can be delightfully moot or delightfully flexible. It works for any situation where one is inclined to satisfice to an extreme degree.

  18. Peace: “And what is ‘rejects Christianity?’ Does ‘Lord of the Rings’ count because there is no Christianity in it?”

    Whiplash…. I would have seen that coming if a Pup was writing the post.

  19. Craig R:

    Campbell nominees are invited to the post-Hugo nominees party. It has not been hosted by GRRM for many years now. It’s hosted by the following year’s Worldcon.

  20. I suppose this will sound like epistemic closure but I don’t care how VD defines “pink SF” in detail. The name alone tells me it’s a gendered slur for stuff Jim likes. The rest is superfluous.

  21. @Chris S

    Since Teddy lives in Switzerland (at least according to the notes in Riding the Red Horse) I don’t know about the first two; but the last is spot on.

  22. From the prior thread: “Glenn Hauman on May 30, 2015 at 8:08 pm said:
    ftumch: for the final time, I am not a minion

    I agree. I’m thinking “stooge” is more accurate.”

    Upon reflection, rather than table this pending referral to the sub-committee on definitions, I agree. So decrement Minion_Count by 1, and add one Moe’ stooge.

    After all, it’s merely a difference of a minion.

    Full of Sound, and Furry
    formerly God Emperor of Puppies,
    and to other scattered User-IDs go.

  23. Pink vs blue SF. It is something that VD and JCW use. VD uses a load of hyperbole to try and define both but in his world blue SF is manly man SF and pink SF has girl cooties.

    So 100 years ago was pink SF considered a hot-blooded manly subgenre and blue SF more serene and feminie?

  24. Kurt: “It’s a story in which a character is granted paranormal abilities, at least, but it’s not a superhero story.”

    That’s completely fair.

  25. Nick Mamatas posted in a comment a few days ago

    LOCK-IN Bookscanned ~10,500 is hardcover since August 2014.
    REDSHIRTS Bookscanned ~18,150 since June of 2012.

    Someone on Twitter was looking for this. I don’t have a Twitter account because I can’t trust myself not to fly off the handle… But maybe this will get back to them.

  26. From the prior thread: “Glenn Hauman on May 30, 2015 at 8:08 pm said:
    ftumch: for the final time, I am not a minion

    Let’s keep the prior thread in the prior thread, since it’s still open for comments. Granted, posting there deprives one of an opportunity to derail *this* thread, but one must make compromises for clarity.

  27. Mike Glyer on May 31, 2015 at 2:31 pm said:
    Peace: “And what is ‘rejects Christianity?’ Does ‘Lord of the Rings’ count because there is no Christianity in it?”

    Whiplash…. I would have seen that coming if a Pup was writing the post.

    I am sorry. Did I go over the line?

    The truth is I am honestly confused by a criterion such as “rejects Christianity.”

  28. Lorcan Nagle on May 31, 2015 at 2:55 pm said:
    Pink vs blue SF. It is something that VD and JCW use. VD uses a load of hyperbole to try and define both but in his world blue SF is manly man SF and pink SF has girl cooties.

    So 100 years ago was pink SF considered a hot-blooded manly subgenre and blue SF more serene and feminie?

    That’s a pretty obscure reference for people who don’t know that the Victorians considered pink a manly color for baby clothes and blue a feminine one.

  29. At any rate, I apologize for my rudeness. It was not my intention to belittle anyone’s religion or to stir up trouble.

  30. The truth is I am honestly confused by a criterion such as “rejects Christianity.”

    It’s a subjective, “I know it when I see it” kind of thing. For instance, I imagine that LOTR would get a pass, The Culture novels wouldn’t, and a bunch of other stuff would be up in the air.

  31. The term “Pink SF” puts me in mind of the Japanese movie genre Pink film. Which given Day’s obsession with sexual “deviancy” might be entirely appropriate, if unintentional.

  32. It occurs to me that setting up the chief administrator group-mind of the Radch empire to engage in civil war with themself is entirely the way that the Culture would prefer to deal with the Radch.

  33. @Kurt Busiek, https://file770.com/?p=22824&cpage=6#comment-272996

    With unnecessary dice rolls, you increase the possibility that the dice rolls off the table. Behind a couch or something like that. Fun when it happens once here and there, less so after the 20th occurance in recent memory.

    Not to mention that rolling for ‘ten different things’ at the beginning of each turn starts to take time. You know, you could just as well place bets on the table.

    As for the context? Yup no idea. Not going to skim past hundreds of posts. I am perfectly fine with just reading the complaints that sound unreasonable against almost any premise.

  34. I will say that “Make a lot of Willpower rolls” sounds like the dullest possible way to handle an Omelas-rescue situation in an RPG.

  35. In terms of execellent graphic novels for consideration next near – Noelle Stevenson’s Nimona is one that I very much enjoyed and I will be putting on my consideration list.

  36. “That’s a pretty obscure reference for people who don’t know that the Victorians considered pink a manly color for baby clothes and blue a feminine one.”

    Maybe it’s just my circle of friends, but but I didn’t realise there were still people who didn’t know this

  37. >> I will say that “Make a lot of Willpower rolls” sounds like the dullest possible way to handle an Omelas-rescue situation in an RPG.>>

    It’s probably up there with “no one offers any resistance and there is no conflict whatsoever.”

    I wonder if the rescuers will then guard the closet forever, which also sounds pretty exciting, or go off to tackle another shallowly-interpreted SF scenario, leaving to Omelatians (Omelasties?) to put the kid back in the closet as soon as the mighty heroes are over the horizon?

  38. @Kurt Busiek: But but – as soon as the kid’s out of the closet, the bears the Omelatians were having orgies with eat them all! I guess…

    But yeah. It’s only as simple as JCW cast it if you’re determined to make it that simple.

  39. For a followup, there could be a campaign in Roman-era Judea. You protect a traveller from one gang of robbers! Yay!

    Then a Levite comes by, then a priest comes by, and then a Samaritan — all presumably avoiding the heavily-armed group . . . and nothing else happens. Maybe you go with the traveller to where he’s going, and . . . do something?

  40. John Wright May 31, 2015 1:48 AM

    ‘ “Le Guin’s propaganda criticizes privilege AND glorifies cowardice.”

    Well said. …’

    No, no sour grapes here at all. Nope.

    “… I have an odd personal reason for enmity to this story. I once ran a role playing game where the player characters were utopia hunters, that is, supernatural beings sent out from paradise to destroy false utopias from various books and shows. Omelas was the first place they visited. The people described in the story, the Omelalets (or whatever) as the drugged up nudists who have orgies with bear, as described as being unarmed. So the player characters just walked in and rescued the child out of the broom closet. I figured no one in Omelas would raise a pinky to defend their system. …”

    My Ghod, it’s true. He really does *not* have any sense of either self-awareness or subtext.

  41. Short form dramatic entries that I will be looking forward to considering this year

    BCC Dr Strange and Mr Norrell
    SyFy The Expanse
    BBC Orphan Black
    Netflix Sense8

    I would put GOT here but I am several seasons behind at this point.

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