Pixel Scroll 10/9 Pixellary Mercy

(1) While I missed the story when this was done for the 70th anniversary of The Wizard of Oz movie, the image is still good for a laugh.

Super-sized version of the infamous Witch’s legs, complete with sparkling red ruby slippers, replicating an iconic scene from the movie ‘The Wizard of OZ’ in central London on December 1, 2009. As part of the Wizard of Oz Christmas season at Harrods.

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(2) “The Last Voyage of the Starship Enterprise” is one of the iconic skits from Saturday Night Live’s first season in 1976. A.V. Club writer Phil Dyess-Nugent discussed it in a 2013 retrospective:

The acknowledged sketch-comedy masterpiece in these episodes is “The Last Voyage Of The Starship Enterprise,” a marvelously detailed Star Trek parody with a very fan-geek sensibility—which is a surprise coming from the writer, O’Donoghue, who you might not think of as the kind of person who would declare fealty to a cult sci-fi TV show. Maybe that, too, is in indication of how much the world has changed. Here’s another: The network suit played by Gould who appears on the deck of the Enterprise to explain the show’s cancellation has nothing to say about demographics or desirable marketing niches, but simply “low Nielsen ratings.” Chevy Chase’s Mr. Spock explains to his captain that Nielsen ratings “were a primitive system of estimating television viewers, once used in the mid-twentieth century.”

Watch it free on Hulu.

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(3) Another Lovecraft-inspired brew from Naragansett Beer will be released at a party October 10 in Providence, RI.

Back from the dead just in time for the spookiest month of the year, our beloved Bock has morphed into the Reanimator Helles Lager. At 6.5% ABV and 35 IBUs, we’ve reanimated our classic Bock by dry-hopping it with Czech Saaz to boost its hop presence with a sophisticated and spicy twist. You won’t want to miss this Lovecraft inspired brew and you can be one of the first try it on Saturday, October 10th at the Columbus Theatre! The party starts at 8PM and a special screening of Re-animator starts at 9PM to celebrate the film’s 30th Anniversary and the release of our latest beer!

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(4) Charles Stross is worried that low Earth orbit will eventually become as trash-strewn as an LA freeway onramp, which will make it nearly impossible to use it for satellites and navigation.

Here’s a technological question with philosophical side-effects that’s been bugging me for the past few days …

Today, the commercial exploitation of outer space appears to be a growth area. Barely a week goes by without a satellite launch somewhere on the planet. SpaceX has a gigantic order book and a contract to ferry astronauts to the ISS, probably starting in 2018; United Launch Alliance have a similar manned space taxi under development, and there are multiple competing projects under way to fill low earth orbit with constellations of hundreds of small data relay satellites to bring internet connectivity to the entire planet. For the first time since the 1960s it’s beginning to look as if human activity beyond low earth orbit is a distinct possibility within the next decade.

But there’s a fly in the ointment.

Kessler Syndrome, or collisional cascading, is a nightmare scenario for space activity. Proposed by NASA scientist Donald Kessler in 1978, it proposes that at a certain critical density, orbiting debris shed by satellites and launch vehicles will begin to impact on and shatter other satellites, producing a cascade of more debris, so that the probability of any given satellite being hit rises, leading to a chain reaction that effectively renders access to low earth orbit unacceptably hazardous…..

(5) In the meantime, space exploration continues unimpeded by junk in the sky, as they will be happy to explain tomorrow at JPL’s annual Open House.

Saturday, October 10 and Sunday, October 11, 2015

9:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m.

No tickets or reservations required

NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, invites the public to its annual Open House on October 10-11,2015. The event is free of charge and takes visitors on a “ride” through the wonders of space. Highlights include a life-size model of Mars Science Laboratory, demonstrations from numerous space missions, JPL’s machine shop, where robotic spacecraft parts are built, and the Microdevices Lab, where engineers and scientists use tiny technology to revolutionize space exploration.

 

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(6) The work of composer John Williams is synonymous with science fiction media. He will be honored with the AFI Life Achievement Award on June 9, 2016. Williams is the 44th winner, but the first composer to receive the award.

John Williams’ storied career as the composer behind many of the greatest American films and television series of all time boasts over 150 credits across seven decades. Perhaps best known for his enduring collaboration with director Steven Spielberg, his scores are among the most iconic and recognizable in film history, from the edge-of-your-seat Jaws (1975) motif to the emotional swell of E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982) and the haunting elegies of Schindler’s List (1993). Always epic in scale, his music has helped define over half a century of the motion picture medium. Three of Williams’ scores landed on AFI’s 100 Years of Film Scores — a list of the 25 greatest American film scores of all time — including the unforgettable Star Wars (1977) soundtrack, at number one. With five Academy Award wins and 49 nominations in total, Williams holds the record for the most Oscar nominations of any living person.

Besides Star Wars, he’s written themes for TV’s The Time Tunnel, Lost In Space, Land of the Giants, and movies like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Superman.

(7) Lela E. Buis tries to fathom what kept Michael A. Burstein from winning any of the Hugos he’s been nominated for

More today on Michael A. Burstein, who’s been nominated 10 times for a Hugo but never won. Just achieving the nomination shows he was a very popular author during these years. His nominations include the short story category, which requires at least 5% of the cast nominations in order to appear on the ballot. So what’s the problem? What was he missing that would have put him over the top?

(8) The third installment of Superversive Blog’s interview with Ruth Johnston, author of Re-modeling the Mind: Personality in Balance, is titled “If You Had Introverted Intuition, My Dinosaur”.

L. Jagi Lamplighter poses the questions in this series described as “Speculative Fiction meets Jung.” Rachel Swirsky’s now-famous story is the subject of analysis this time.

[Ruth Johnson] A: I think this story is a wonderful example of the hardest to explain, most mysterious mental function we can observe in personality: Introverted Intuition. Both kinds of Intuition are involved in a search for meaning, but Introverted Intuition is particularly intent on finding cloaked, disguised, suppressed truth.

I think that’s what this story is about. Of course, it isn’t really a story; it’s a scene that poses questions about meaning. There isn’t any movement in plot, rather the motion consists of a gradual revealing of the speaker’s state of mind. The scene: A woman sits by a hospital bed, where her fiancé, an archeologist, is in a coma. He was beaten by five drunken men for unknown reasons. The only dinosaur in the story is in her imagination, of course, as she envisions what would have been different if he had been even a small carnivore. The title poses the question: what if, instead of being who you are, you had been something else?

I think the key to the story is that she feels a small Tyrannosaurus Rex would have been a truer form for the soul of the man she loves. It would reveal his true nature, whereas his powerless natural appearance forms a kind of mask that makes him look like he ought to be a victim. The exercise in imagining is pointless if being a dinosaur wasn’t somehow a truer truth than the natural one; otherwise we could ask what if he were a Mack truck or an onion. By emphasizing that the dinosaur would be the same size as the human, she is making it clear that she sees the transformation as revelation, not random change. “If you actually looked like your true inner nature, my love, then people would see that you are strong and this would be a deterrent to getting hurt.”

When you posit that the appearance of a human being might be a disguise, a false archetype that covers truth, you are deep into Introverted Intuition’s territory.

(8) Disney and Lucasfilm will hold a massive world premiere for Star Wars: The Force Awakens in Los Angeles on Dec. 14, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. A premiere in London immediately follows.

(9) See the trading card with the most explicit Star Wars photo of all time.

The final chapter in the story of the biggest boner in Topps’ history.

The year was 1977 and the U.S. was caught in the throes of a pop culture phenomenon unlike anything it had seen before, all because of a little movie called Star Wars. The Topps Company, known for making pocket-sized stacks of popular baseball players since the 1930s, lucked out when Kenner’s subsidiary Donruss passed on the Star Wars license. What followed was one of the most successful series of trading cards ever created.

Five sets of cards and stickers were produced over the course of two years. In a time before the Wookiepedia, these were one of the few ways to get in-depth information about the beloved soon-to-be franchise. But the original editor of those cards, Gary Gerani, and his team made one small mistake that will go down in history.

(10) Today in History

Is the anniversary literally today? I don’t know, but Prague’s astronomical clock is 605 years old, and Google has marked the occasion today, October 9, with a Google Doodle.

The ornate clock, known as the Orloj, is one of Prague’s most recognised touristic spectacles, and is located in the Old Town Square in the centre of the city. Its hourly shows draw curious visitors from all over the world, where 12 apostles emerge from two windows to nod at the crowds below.

 

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(11) Creature Features presents The Monster Squad on October 11:

1PM – Sun Oct 11, 2015

$15 – $65 – The Theatre at Ace Hotel, Los Angeles

Tickets on sale now

Creature Features haunts The Theatre at Ace Hotel with this special cast & crew reunion screening of THE MONSTER SQUAD, the epic 1987 smackdown between an intrepid band of middle schoolers and five of horrordom’s most fearsome beasties, led by Count Dracula himself!

This spook-tacular matinee showing will include two panel discussions before and after the film, hosted by Eric “Quint” Vespe of Aint It Cool News. Guests include: actors Andre Gower, Ryan Lambert, Ashley Bank and Stephen Macht, make-up FX artists Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff, and composer Bruce Broughton, who will be on hand to premiere the brand new deluxe CD release of his score to the film, courtesy of La-La Land Records.

 

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(12) This brings back memories. The cartoon commercial for Bonomo Turkish Taffy

(13) A Gamera remake is on the way. There was a trailer shown at this weekend’s New York Comic Con.

(14) I know that people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, so I will remain silent about “The Competitive World of AOL Disc Collecting”.

The discs came like a swarm of locusts, burrowing into post boxes and sliding through mail slots. They popped out of cereal boxes and appeared on meal trays during airline flights. They fell out of magazines and Happy Meals. They were stocked at the checkout counters of Best Buy, near the popcorn at Blockbuster, on bookshelves at Barnes & Noble. The ubiquity of AOL discs—those free marketing materials sent by American Online in the 90s to entice people to sign up for internet service—could be likened to world domination….

Of the bunch, Sloan Cline is arguably the most prolific collector. By her estimates, she has over 4,000 unique AOL discs stored in the basement of her home in Kansas. Every CD in her collection is different: There are discs in every color, ones in plastic cases or shrink-wrap packaging, ones promising various hours on the free trial. Versions one through three came on floppy disk, and some of the early ones came in metal tins—Sloan Cline has those kinds, too. There were also branded AOL discs, like her prized Marvel Spider-Man disc, and foreign AOL discs, which she got from her friends in Canada and Argentina.

(15) The National Toy Hall of Fame in Rochester, NY has announced the shortlist for 2015 induction. The selection will be revealed November 5. The Hall of Fame typically inducts three toys each year, with last year’s honors going to miniature green army men, the Rubik’s Cube and bubbles.

The 2015 finalists are: American Girl dolls, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, spinning tops, Twister, Wiffle Ball, Battleship, puppets, Jenga, coloring books, Playmobil, Super Soaker and scooters.

The National Hall of Fame said the toys are judged based on icon status, longevity, discovery and innovation.

 

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(16) Today’s Birthday Boys

Born 1950 – David Brin

Born 1954 — Scott Bakula, famed for Quantum Leap and as Captain Jonathan Archer on Enterprise.

Born 1964 – Guillermo del Toro, acclaimed movie director.

(17) Guillermo del Toro talked about his second house/man cave which is filled with all sorts of horror movie memorabilia on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

And he graciously worked the crowd outside.

[Thanks to Iphinome, Will R., Andrew Porter, Martin Morse Wooster, and John King Tarpinian for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day Sylvia Sotomayor.]


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240 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 10/9 Pixellary Mercy

  1. @Xtifr: Goodreads is very good for that. Although I could still probably tell you the order of books in most series I read before I was twenty or so, it’s been a long time since I was twenty. So believe me, I have the same problem.

    For instance, search for PC Hodgell and you can find the books by series (“Kencyrath, #1”). They won’t be listed in order (although someone may have made a list somewhere).

    I noticed PC Hodgell name checks File 770 on her livejournal (which I’m sure our gracious host or somebody else has mentioned already and I missed or have forgotten). Haven’t read it yet, but she’s got a sale out of me.

    Edit: Congratulations Ursula! I can’t imagine a more deserving wombat.

  2. From Capclave, the news is that the Small Press Award for short fiction has been won by an unknown little story called “Jackalope Wives.” Congratulations!

    Congrats Ursula. Well deserved.

  3. Michael Eochaidh: I noticed PC Hodgell name checks File 770 on her livejournal

    She was apparently given the tall tale that the File770ers robbed Toni Weisskopf of “her” Hugo. Why am I not surprised?

    At any rate, now that I’ve read the first 2 books in her Kencyrath series, I’m delighted that it’s gotten so much promotion and so many new readers here. I’m looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

    It’s a pity that they apparently weren’t publishing the Hugo nominations longlists back in 1983; looking at the other books published in 1982, I strongly suspect God Stalk would have been on the longlist, and it would have given Hodgell some encouragement back then that she probably could have used (God Stalk actually received a vote in the 1984 nominations too, though the novel was no longer eligible that year).

  4. Read part two of God Stalk and liked it better than the first part. Will order rest of series now.

  5. Hooray for Jackalope Wives (and its author)!

    Boo for not being at CapClave myself – I had planned to be there, but Stuff Happened at work and I have to stay in Europe.

  6. Besides “If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love”, there’s no other story I haven’t read but have learned so much about, simply by osmosis.

    Another point: there seem to be two number 8s in the scroll.

  7. Teemu Leisti: there seem to be two number 8s in the scroll.

    VD was the Guest Editor for today’s Scroll.

  8. @JJ

    She was apparently given the tall tale that the File770ers robbed Toni Weisskopf of “her” Hugo. Why am I not surprised?

    Interesting. She says “My editor looked dubious when I mentioned File770. In some way I don’t entirely understand, it seems to have cost her a well-deserved Hugo.” Isn’t her editor Toni Weisskopf herself?

  9. lurkertype on October 10, 2015 at 11:31 pm said:

    Congrats to our favorite crimson marsupial!

    The Crimson Marsupial sounds like a variation on the Scarlet Pimpernel – presumably she rescues SF/F aristocracy from revolutionary Paris.

  10. I’m gonna third/fourth the recommendation of PlanetES. The manga is one of my all-time favourite comics, and while the anime diverges substantially, it maintains the spirit of the manga very well and explores the characters very interstingly

  11. Mark on: Interesting. She says “My editor looked dubious when I mentioned File770. In some way I don’t entirely understand, it seems to have cost her a well-deserved Hugo.” Isn’t her editor Toni Weisskopf herself?

    Exactly.

    Clearly Weisskopf blames the Hugo voters who chose not to reward her for being a part of the Puppy slate for depriving her of “her” Hugo. The fact that she would say that to one of her authors, though, sort of beggars belief. I suspect that she thinks Hodgell is too out of the loop to find out what actually went on.

  12. @JJ

    It does come over as if that was Weisskopf directly sounding off to Hodgell, doesn’t it?

    “Well-deserved” could be Hodgell’s own opinion though; as one of Weisskopf’s authors she’s in a good position to judge how Weisskopf contributes to her books.

  13. If File770 deprived someone of a Hugo by quoting verbatim things that that person’s allies/misguided supporters said, perhaps the problem is not with File770 but with the choice of allies.

    @Camestros

    The Crimson Marsupial sounds like a variation on the Scarlet Pimpernel – presumably she rescues SF/F aristocracy from revolutionary Paris.

    I’d read it.

  14. JJ:

    Clearly Weisskopf blames the Hugo voters who chose not to reward her for being a part of the Puppy slate for depriving her of “her” Hugo.

    Part of the “depriving” and “well-deserved” might be Hodgell’s phrasing, but clearly Weisskopf blames File770 for the Hugo result. Admittedly I’m writing this in 5706 and my memory of the 2015 Hugo controversy is less than perfect, but my impression is that commenters here generally leaned toward nominating on merit, and weren’t hardcore “no award everything on slates” or particularly against Weisskopf. I don’t doubt that many commenters here voted no award over Weisskopf, but blaming File770 for the 3000+ no award votes seems a little, ehm, paranoid.

  15. @Johan P

    I think you’re spot on. While the “no award all slate nominees” approach had its supporters on here, “read and judge on merit” seemed to be the most discussed approach.

    Weisskopf’s position of studied neutrality has slipped a few times now.

  16. “The Crimson Marsupial sounds like a variation on the Scarlet Pimpernel – presumably she rescues SF/F aristocracy from revolutionary Paris.”

    If it was a crimson Marsupilami, I’d really go for it.

  17. I suspect that the Editor categories got No Awarded because for Average Joe Fan judging whether an editor is or isn’t good is very challenging; reasonable doubt over whether some or all of those editors may or may not have been able to get a nomination legitimately; and a lot of those Average Joe Fans feeling the need to vote No Award above Vox Day. I think a lot of those voters might have abstained in a normal year.

    Weisskopf and Minz didn’t help themselves by providing a useless packet submission, either, but Gilbert’s (for example) was perfectly decent and she’s had legitimate nominations in the past and she still ended up under No Award so I don’t think the packet was the main reason. It was the main reason I irritably put the Baen editors under No Award, but that’s just me. 🙂 I don’t know how widespread that was.

    Next year I plan on supporting Kevin Standlee’s proposals for changing the Editor and Magazine categories. I’m not convinced they’re fit for purpose as-is.

  18. Johan P: I don’t doubt that many commenters here voted no award over Weisskopf, but blaming File770 for the 3000+ no award votes seems a little, ehm, paranoid.

    In the Editor Long Form category there were 2,496 votes for No Award, and 1,216 for Weisskopf. Blaming File770 for that number of No Awards is pretty ludicrous. She needs to recognize that that number is indicative of a large number of Hugo voters, many of whom have nothing to do with File770, and ask herself why it actually happened.

    Her company is well-known for badly-edited books with shitty covers, a lot of fans remember and did not appreciate her nasty little “Us vs. Them” editorial a year ago, she couldn’t be bothered to provide a list of her editorial work for the Hugo packet, and she was happy to ride the coattails of a bunch of Puppies who refused to participate in the Hugos honestly to a nomination — all of which contributed mightily to that “No Award” result.

    The fact that she ignores all of that, and instead chooses to blame Filers, speaks volumes about the sort of Editor she is.

  19. Speaking of shitty covers, my iBooks shelves are looking steadily more attractive as Bujold gets covers commissioned herself.

  20. Thanks, everybody!

    It’s a little surreal to have a story that just keeps on giving like this. I wrote it over two years ago now, and I’ve been doing so much other stuff in the interim that it feels like a long time ago. I’m grateful to the story for its hard work–ok, I know that sounds weird, but I feel like once I write a thing, it’s its own thing and has a sort of life outside me–but it’s like “Whoa, Jackalope is still going?”

    Whenever I sell foreign rights or audio rights or options or whatever on a book, I get the same feeling–that the story is still alive, working hard, and just sent money back home to support its old author–but Jackalope has definitely been a bit of an overachiever this year! I keep expecting people to go “We’re sick of this, you got anything new?”

    Writing is a weird gig.

  21. I didn’t vote in the Hugos this year. But I suspect Weisskopf was not just a passive beneficiary of the Puppy slates, but was in it up to her ears, one of the famous secret supporters that Correia and Torgersen bragged about. I base this on the Engagement essay and the Baen’s Bar connection. None of this is probative. All of it is suggestive.

    Leaving that aside, if, per the packet, “all of our books are team-edited,” there was simply no reason to give her an individual award for editing. So she can lump it.

    I’m still a member of the God Stalk! brigade though, even here in the year 4448..

  22. I do use the DeDRM tool on Calibre, because sometimes I buy books from the Great South American River, and I want to read them on my Kobo.

    Stupid proprietory software. I don’t want a Kindle. I like my Kobo.

    Cassy

  23. JJ: And since I, the person who writes File 770, put Weisskopf first on my ballot this year and for the previous couple of years, and have repeatedly said so, that makes it one strange conspiracy, I’ll tell you.

  24. Hampus Eckeman said:

    If it was a crimson Marsupilami, I’d really go for it.

    Been a long time since I was reminded of those comics. I loved them when I was a kid. (Maybe I should look them up again.)

  25. @Mike Glyer

    I thought you had, but I didn’t want to say so in case I was misremembering.

    Re: Who said it, the quote isn’t entirely clear:

    My editor looked dubious when I mentioned File770. In some way I don’t entirely understand, it seems to have cost her a well-deserved Hugo.

    Her editor is presumably Weisskopf, since no other female Baen editors were involved, but it isn’t totally clear that Weisskopf is the one who explained the Puppy stuff or if someone else did at some point after Hodgell enquired further.

  26. Weisskopf and Minz didn’t help themselves by providing a useless packet submission, either, but Gilbert’s (for example) was perfectly decent and she’s had legitimate nominations in the past and she still ended up under No Award so I don’t think the packet was the main reason. It was the main reason I irritably put the Baen editors under No Award, but that’s just me. 🙂 I don’t know how widespread that was.

    and she’s had legitimate nominations in the past”

    That’s rich.

  27. @CrimsonMarsupial —

    More congratulations. Jackalope Wives was a wonderful vignette. It captured and distilled a time, a place, and a people in a way that reached out and grabbed me and said — well, I’m not sure what it said. But stories that grab me have a way of bubbling up to the top of my mental stew at odd moments, so I’m sure it will tell me eventually.

    In the year 5325, the successors to humanity have perfected the idea of living slow and small. Life is uneventful but deep. The Jackalope Wives still dance somewhere.

  28. Stevie, if I could go back in time, and had a crew of willing helpers, I’d go back and steal St. Thomas a Becket and his shrine…

    The only good thing Henry VIII did was sire Elizabeth…

  29. @Brian Z

    Well, if you don’t want to say what you mean I’m not going to keep guessing at what it might be.

  30. and a lot of those Average Joe Fans feeling the need to vote No Award above Vox Day.

    Yeah, I couldn’t figure out a way to say “absolutely not him, but I don’t care about anyone else” other than to put him below NA and leave off the rest; I figured if enough people did care, their votes would suffice. Also, from the outside, the only way to tell if an editor is good is to read books by their authors after they’ve gotten to the point where they stop listening to them – McCaffrey’s post-Campbell career makes it obvious that Campbell deserved his reputation. Going the other direction isn’t much of an indication – the authors could just be getting better with practice.

  31. Well, Weisskopf was a finalist in 2014 and 13 as well, so clearly she *might* have been legitimately nominated for 2015 if the puppies hadn’t tainted the ballot, same as Gilbert.

  32. But she was supported by Puppies in 2013 and 2014 as well. The 2013 Puppy campaign largely flew under the radar, and did not succeed it its main aim of getting Larry Correia nominated; nevertheless it may have helped to get its other nominees over the edge.

  33. @Lenora Rose

    Weisskopf was a Puppy Person Of Interest for those years, too, so there’s a mild question mark. She might have got nominated without them – I think that she’s probably as reasonable a nominee as any, even if she doesn’t want to prove it – but until they stop doing their thing it will be hard to tell, and even after that… The association might hurt her chances, so if she didn’t ever get nominated again would that be because of her work or because she’d made herself unpopular with a certain amount of nominators for the perception that she supports the Puppy slates?

    That’s all assuming that the category changes fail, of course.

    ETA: In 2012 she got slightly under 5% of the vote, and it went up to 12%ish once the Puppies started doing their thing. Not by itself damning – Gilbert also went from nowhere close to nominee in the same years without any campaign – but it does make it difficult to say with any certainty that Weisskopf would be on any Hugo ballots without the Puppies, however deserving she might be.

  34. Leaving that aside, if, per the packet, “all of our books are team-edited,” there was simply no reason to give her an individual award for editing. So she can lump it.

    I do think the editor categories are impossible to judge, but it looked like she wasn’t even trying. Maybe she expected a Hugo just because Baen is so great? But it’s not a Best Publisher Hugo, it’s a Best Editor Hugo.

  35. Jim Henley: if, per the packet, “all of our books are team-edited,” there was simply no reason to give her an individual award for editing.

    Anna Feruglio Dal Dan: I do think the editor categories are impossible to judge, but it looked like she wasn’t even trying.

    Yeah, the grousing about how File770 robbed her of a Hugo, after she refused to provide supporting information for her nomination, really beggars belief.

  36. It seems obvious to me. By not immediately falling in line with the puppies’ demands, and accepting their logic as impeccable and inarguable, file770 cost Weisskopf her Hugo. It’s this sort of tolerance for open-mindedness that is ruining SF today! 🙂

  37. @Meredith

    I personally think that Weisskopf’s margin over other slate nominees in both nominations and final voting suggest she had a constituency beyond the slates, but there’s too many ways to judge the data to be sure.
    I suspect she’ll be back on the finalists list plenty over the coming years.

  38. By not immediately falling in line with the puppies’ demands, and accepting their logic as impeccable and inarguable, file770 cost Weisskopf her Hugo.

    If she thinks that, she’s being completely illogical, and irrational as well. How many people regularly comment here? I don’t know if Mike’s ever tried to add them all up (maybe he should; now that I’ve said that, I’m kind of curious). I know we’ve created thousand-comment threads, but that was at the height of Puppy rabidity, and also due to the Rev. Bob “Immortal Words” thing, where everybody contributed multiple times. At any rate, I would bet the usual commentariat probably numbers in the low three figures. We’re just a talky bunch. For us to come up with 2,400 “No Award” votes, we all would’ve had to vote five or ten times.

  39. For us to come up with 2,400 “No Award” votes, we all would’ve had to vote five or ten times.

    The lurkers support us in email^h voting?

  40. @Mark

    The data is clear: Weisskopf does have some support outside of the Puppies. What the data is not clear on is whether she has enough non-Puppy support to get a nomination. The three years immediately pre-Puppy (longlist shortened to end immediately after Weisskopf appears):

    2012
    88 Lou Anders (24.24%)
    67 Betsy Wollheim (18.46%)
    59 Liz Gorinsky (16.25%)
    44 Patrick Nielsen Hayden (12.12%)
    43 Anne Lesley Groell (11.85%)
    ——————————————————————————
    41 Devi Pillai (11.29%)
    40 Jeremy Lassen (11.02%)
    35 Jacob Weisman (9.64%)
    32 Ginjer Buchanan (8.81%)
    23 David Hartwell (6.34%)
    22 Julie A Crisp (6.06%)
    20 Nick Mamatas (5.51%)
    20 Beth Meacham (5.51%)
    18 Toni Weisskopf (4.95%)

    2011

    96 Lou Anders (32%)
    56 Liz Gorinsky (18.67%)
    44 David G. Hartwell (14.67%) [DECLINED]
    31 Patrick Nielsen Hayden (10.33%) [DECLINED]
    24 Ginjer Buchanan (8%)
    22 Moshe Feder (7.33%)
    21 Beth Meacham (7%)
    21 Juliet Ulman (7%)
    21 Nick Mamatas (7%)
    ——————————————————————————
    19 Toni Weisskopf (6.33%)

    2010

    99 Lou Anders (34.3%)
    61 Juliet Ulman (21.1%)
    54 Patrick Nielsen Hayden (18.7%)
    47 David G. Hartwell (16.3%) [DECLINE]
    42 Liz Gorinsky (14.5%)
    41 Ginjer Buchanan (14.2%)
    ——————————————————————————
    40 Beth Meacham (13.8%)
    31 Teresa Nielsen Hayden (10.7%)
    23 Jeremy Lassen (8%)
    19 Jennifer Brehl (6.6%)
    18 Antonia (Toni) Weisskopf (6.2%)

  41. No. of filephiles? Hmm, brackets have had 50+ votes, and nowhere near everyone will have voted (or been able to decide!), so 100 regular commenters is certainly conceivable, for vague values of regular. In terms of regular readership Mike probably has some ideas, but we’ve established that his Alexa rank is somewhere between Correia and VD 🙂

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