The Wind’s Hind Quarters 6/30

aka Quit Zoomin’ Those Paws Through The Air

Starring in today’s roundup: Charlie Jane Anders, Jon F. Zeigler, Arianne, Melina D, Paul Kincaid, Martin Wisse, Justin Howe, Lou Antonelli, Doctor Strangelove, Terry Weyna, Spacefaring Kitten, Laura “Tegan” Gjovaag, Grac and embrodski. (Title credit belongs to File 770 contributing editors of the day Richard Brandt and Daniel Dern.)

Charlie Jane Anders on io9

“Eight Books You Need To Know About To Understand The Hugo Awards Snafu” – June 30

about books

But all the discussions about the Puppies, pro and con, tend to bog down in generalizations. So let’s get specific. Here are eight books that can help illuminate this mess. Because this is about books, or it’s about nothing at all.

[Anders takes a highly interesting approach, contrasting what reviewers and Sad/Rabid Puppies advocates have to say about these eight sf works:]

  • The Forever War by Joe Haldeman
  • Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton
  • Monster Hunter Legion by Larry Correia
  • Blackout by Mira Grant
  • Redshirts by John Scalzi
  • Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie
  • The Book of Feasts and Seasons by John C. Wright
  • Seveneves by Neil Stephenson

 

 

Jon F. Zeigler on Sharrukin’s Palace

“The Hugo Dispute: An Assessment” – June 30

[Thorough article. This is just an excerpt of two of the topics:]

Over at Amazing Stories, Steve Davidson recently blogged about possible fan responses to this mess. Some of his suggestions strike me as either impractical or actively harmful, but I think he’s on the right track with at least one item:

“First, the crafting of a formal statement that articulates the position that Fandom and Fans (which includes authors, artists, editors, podcasters, bloggers, fan writers, fan artists and everyone) do not game awards (or other fannish institutions) for personal, political or financial gain. Further, that individuals who may be eligible for awards state formally that they do not grant permission for third parties to include them or their works in voting campaigns or slates or organized voting blocs and that if their names or works are found on such, it is without their express permission.”

As a purely voluntary principle for creators in this space, I think that’s well worth considering. So here’s my line in the sand, to be repeated if and when it becomes fully relevant.

I won’t participate in organizing a slate for any industry award. If and when I publish something that’s eligible, I will not give my permission for that work to be included on any slate. If someone includes my work on a slate without my permission, and that work reaches the ballot, I will withdraw it from consideration. If that means the award becomes irrelevant to my success as an author, so be it.

I can succeed without having to chase fan politics. I can do that by pursuing the work I love: writing and selling stories. If that isn’t enough, I don’t intend to waste my time stewing over might-have-beens.

Now, as it happens, the argument above assumes that the rules of the awards process aren’t going to change. If they do change to make slate voting more costly or difficult, that mitigates the problem. There are multiple ways to get that result, some of which admittedly constitute a cure worse than the disease.

Fortunately, there’s a proposed rule change that will be considered at the WSFS business meeting this year, and that seems very promising. That’s the so-called E Pluribus Hugo proposal, a modification of the procedure for counting nomination votes.

I’ve spent some time looking at the EPH proposal. In fact, while I don’t claim to be an expert, the comparative study of election systems is familiar to me (my professional background is in mathematics and computer science). Thus far I’m quite impressed.

 

Melina D on Subversive Reader

“Hugos 2015 – Where to now?” – July 1

So what do I do next?

I was talking to my sister about the Hugos the other night. My sister is not in the community (though she does read and watch speculative media), but she’s worked in politics, so she understands a lot about the political process and it was relatively easy to explain how the slate dominated the awards this year. She helped me clarify some of my thoughts and then asked the question:

“So what are you going to do about it?”

Funnily enough, I’d been turning this question over in my head for a few days. What was I going to do to make my voice heard? How was I going to stand up and say ‘I want the best writing – the absolute best – to be nominated for and win Hugos Awards.’ I want writing which makes me feel something, writing which makes me stay up late reading, writing which makes me want to tell everyone about what I just read.

I have two main powers as a supporting member – I can nominate and I can vote. There is a third power though – I can write about it. I can write about the stories and books I read and why I love them or why they don’t quite work for me and why other people should go to read them. I can write about the nominees and why I would vote for one or the other. The power of the internet means that I can put my voice out there.

I can also read more. This Hugo ‘season’ has allowed me to find a lot of new places to find short fiction and I’ve already started reading some from the first half of the year. I’m reading more blogs and online magazines and looking at their book reviews and announcements. I’ve made sure that I’m putting more time into reading – even if it’s just a short story before bed.

There’s a few places I can go to find 2015 stories and media, but I’d also like to open it here. What new fiction or nonfiction are you consuming? What have you really enjoyed? What would you like to share with others? Leave a comment, tell me about it. I might go on to read and review it, I might not, but it gives me new places to explore and new things to try. I might find a new author I absolutely love, or find myself reading a new type of story I’d never even thought about before.

With more reading, I’m going to feel more confident nominating. And by sharing my reading, I hope I can encourage others to read and nominate their favourite stories of the year. Maybe it won’t be enough to negate the slate, but at least I’m doing something positive.

 

Paul Kincaid on BestScienceFictionBooks.com

“A Reply to Kevin Standlee on the Hugos”  – June 30

[Excerpt is first of four points.]

1: No, I do not want a “Strong Leader”, and that is not what I said. What I want is a more responsive organisation. Every award that I know of has a mechanism in place that would allow for a change in the rules between one award presentation and the next. Some of these amount to a strong leader, most do not. None of them takes at least two years to put in place any rule change.

Situations change, and in our modern digital age they change very rapidly indeed. It surely makes sense that awards should be able to respond just as rapidly. As it is, whatever might be proposed at the next WSFS meeting cannot take effect until after it is ratified at the following WSFS meeting in 2016, which means it will be the 2017 awards before there is any actual change. If the Sad and Rabid Puppies behaved within the rules this year, as indeed they did, then they have free rein to do exactly the same next year. That does not strike me as an award process that is fit for purpose.

Here’s is a proposal to make the award more responsive without a “Strong Leader”, (it may not be the only possibility or the best, but it is at least a notion that could be considered): I have seen a number of proposals online for possible changes to the Hugo rules. Why not provide a venue online where these proposals can be thoroughly debated by all interested parties, so that when the next WSFS meeting comes along all that is needed is for the proposal to be ratified or not by the meeting, and lo, the rule change is made, there and then, within the year? As it is, whatever debate has gone on previously, the proposal can only formally be made at the next WSFS meeting, by those who can attend the Worldcon (an expensive commitment, especially if it is on a different continent), and will then only be ratified by those attending the next WSFS meeting at the next Worldcon (yet another expense). By moving the debate online and making the WSFS meeting a ratification body, I think you would actually make the Hugos more democratic, not less.

So no, Kevin, I do not want a strong leader.

 

Martin Wisse on Wis[s]e Words

“If you want to change the Hugos, understand their history” – June 30

Okay, I don’t want to begrudge anybody their Hugo rant — ghu knows I’ve written enough and in fact I’d agree with quite a bit of this criticism:…

The Hugos are the way they are, with all their strengths and weaknesses because they’re the result of a decades long specific democratic process and the 2015 categories and rules are the fossilised remains of this process. You cannot understand the Hugos properly unless you not only know that the Best Semi-prozine category was created to shield all other fanzines from the Locus juggernaut, but also that the same sort of thing happened with the Best podcast category, the long struggle to get comics recognised properly and why there are two editorial categories and what went before that.

And not only that, you need to know the process and rules under which these changes are made, like the proposers of E Pluribus Hugo frex do seem to. You need to understand how the business meetings work as well as why and how it was established, even without Kevin Standlee to prompt you. You need to be a bit of a process nerd to be honest. (You also need to realise that much of this was designed by Americans, who seem to have a national weakness for over complicated voting systems with huge barriers to entry…)

This bone deep understanding and awareness of what is and isn’t possible given the history and current structure of WSFS and the Hugos is likely why people like Kevin Standlee might be a bit dismissive of such criticsm as well as looking overly lawyerly. That’s the risk of being an insider, you have a much better grasp on the mechanism of the system and less of an idea of what it looks like from the outside

But what you should also realise is that knowning this history and being familiar with the whole process more than likely also gives you an overwhelming sense of how fragile the whole structure is, how easy it is for a well intended proposal or rules change to damage or destroy WSFS. I see a deep fear and wariness behind that “slow and prone to complexify process, a desire to err on the side of caution, knowning how close it has come to all going kablooey.

 

Justin Howe on 10 Bad Habits

“Caring is Meaningless” – June 30

This is a thing I wrote in response to some SFF fandom bullshit going on. If you’re reading this and don’t know what the Sad/Rabid Puppies are, well, I envy you. Stay unaware. Don’t google it. Google prehistoric squirrels or Steven Universe conspiracy theories instead. It’ll be time better spent. For the rest of us poor bastards who have eaten of the Fruit of Bullshit from the Tree of Train Wreck, this post is for us.

When someone says, “Well, at least I care!” all they’re saying is, “Well, at least I have an opinion!” I’ve read this from one of the Sad Pup ringleaders, and couldn’t help but read the bit about “caring” as the foot-stomp of the petulant, self-righteous child. Caring is meaningless. Caring can be split so many ways and made to mean anything. You can carry it down into all kinds of Godwin Law absurdity. Mussolini cared about train schedules. Custer cared about the Sioux. You can’t say they didn’t. They certainly cared enough to have opinions about them. To state so sternly that you’re justified in your actions, because “you cared” is simply a sleight of hand attempt to raise feelings up to the level of values, because you’re not wise or self-aware enough to process your feelings without making noises.

 

Lou Antonelli on This Way To Texas

“Puppies in the heartland” – June 30

The Puppy Kickers cite well-known authors who are known conservatives – Mike Resnick and Larry Niven are two – but they came up through the ranks years ago. People like Larry Corriea and Brad Torgersen have entered the field in the past ten years, and have seen and felt first-hand the snubs and insults of the snobs. Both were nominated for the Campbell Award for Best new writer in their first year of eligibility. They didn’t win. Now, that award allows you two years of eligibility, and over the years many writers have has two shots at winning – but neither Larry nor Brad were even nominated in their second years of eligibility.

The Puppy Kickers would assert it’s because as people got to know them better, they realized they sucked as authors. I suspect it’s more likely they were shunted aside because they do not conceal their Mormon faith.

In 2012, when Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee for president, most of the leading lights in the s-f  literary world combined their hatred for people of faith with their hatred for Republicans by attacking Romney in the most vile language. Quite frankly, I personally believe there are some things you should never say to or about people, regardless of the subject. In light of the attacks on Romney, is it any wonder all the Mormon s-f writers went off the reservation? It’s almost a human rights issue – “you can’t say that about one of my coreligionists.

I doubt most of the Puppy Kickers have any Christian friends, and certainly no Mormons. But here in Middle America there are plenty of Christians, Mormons, and even – as Jay Lake used to say – “low church atheists” – people who don’t believe in the supernatural, but, like Jay, didn’t mind if you needed a faith.

I remember when Jay said the source of so much ill feeling were the “high church atheists” – people who didn’t believe in God, and wanted to stamp out your religion, too. Jay was a smart man and a nice guy.

As I have made the convention circuit, I have been heartened by the many people who have been kind and supportive of my work, and either supportive or tolerant of the Sad Puppies effort. It reminds me that most people are thoughtful and considerate human beings, and the internet is a tool that is – like the machinery left behind by the Krel as depicted in the s-f classic movie “Forbidden Planet” – letting the darkest and worst innermost aspects of human nature loose upon the land.

 

Doctor Strangelove on Strangelove for Science Fiction

“Attention seeking troll puppies” – June 30

The various Puppy leaders, it turns out, have little to say, and their arguments implode into insignificance. They don’t think a literary award, the Hugos, should go to literary fiction. They don’t think science fiction should contain messages, or be socially progressive. Their voting slates, of course, contain attempts at literary fiction and message fiction. If we set aside their arguments, all we are left with is noise. Their attention-seeking trolling of the Hugo nomination process in essence says “look at me, look at me!” That is sad, indeed.

 

Terry Weyna on Fantasy Literature

“Magazine Monday: Hugo-Nominated Short Stories 2014”

[Reviews all five nominees.]

The short stories nominated for the Hugo Award this year are a disappointing lot. I read a great many stories in 2014 that were far better than at least four of these tales.

 

Spacefaring Kitten on Spacefaring, Extradimensional Happy Kittens

“Jeffro ‘GURPS-disadvantaged people ruin SFF’ Johnson” – June 30

Reading Jeffro Johnson was an interesting and even SFFnal experience. I mean, one of the most enjoyable aspects of science fiction and fantasy is that it has the capacity to offer alien experiences and viewpoints.

Most likely I disagree with Jeffro Johnson on a wide range of topics, but unlike the three Mad Genius Club bloggers who are competing with him for the Best Fan Writer Hugo, Johnson makes a better job at explaining his views. He is also mainly interested in science fiction and fantasy instead of waging a culture war against “social justice warriors” which is more than a welcome change after wading through the polemics of Dave Freer, Cedar Sanderson and Amanda S. Green…..

 

Laura “Tegan” Gjovaag on Bloggity-Blog-Blog-Blog

“Hugo Reading – Fan Writer” – June 30

[Reviews all five nominees.]

Johnson is the clear winner here, since he seems to be the only one that really fits what I think of as the category. I might put Mixon on the ballot as well, but that is a difficult choice. Both of them are going below “No Award” I think. The other three do not deserve awards for the writing in their packets. In fact, they really shouldn’t have been nominated at all. My guess is that all three must have been on the slates, since I do not believe they could have been nominated by the merits of the writings they provided.

If I sound a little bitter, it’s because I’m feeling bitter… How can people who clearly hate fandoms not their own be nominated for a Hugo Award? My concept of fandom is a big umbrella under which all of us can hang out and do our own thing in a non-judgmental setting. To read screeds against other fans is depressing. To see those screeds nominated for awards? Gah. Seriously, did any of the people voting on the slates actually read these works and say, “Yes, this is the best writing about fandom I saw in 2014.” and, if so, why? How? How can writing that rips someone apart be the best? Why all the hate?

 

Grac on Grac’s Never-Ending TBR Pile of Doom

“The Three-Body Problem – Liu Cixin” – June 30

… I gave this book 3 because of the clunky/heavy part midway through, which almost made me give up. I can see why some people loved it, but I wasn’t one of them – it may well still end up winning this year’s Hugo but I don’t think it’s better than my vote (The Goblin Emperor, in case anyone is interested!). I prefer my science fiction a bit more people-oriented, to be perfectly honest, and the characterisation of many folks in this novel left something to be desired, even as the background of the Cultural Revolution and modern-day China added to its interest.

 

embrodski on Death Is Bad

“Amazing Man” – June 22

I dashed off a little short story, inspired by the Sad Puppies Hugo Fiasco. I had fun writing it, I hope someone finds it enjoyable to read. :)…

….“So all of this…” Paula gestured around herself to indicate the Presidential Palace, the Liberty Legions, and presumably the entire Liberated States of America. “All of this was because you felt snubbed by a group of people you don’t even like?”

Amazing ripped the glasses from his face and crushed them in his fist. His responding roar was super-human, shattering all the glass in the Palace and leaving Paula with mild, but permanent, hearing loss.

“It’s about ethics in journalism!”

Emilio won a Pulitzer that year, as well as a Peabody, an Oscar, a Grammy, a Dobby, and a Tony Award; all purely on merit and not for any other reason at all. Amazing Man won the Nobel Peace Prize. That last one raised a few eyebrows, but it was pointed out that the Peace Prize had previously been awarded to people with a much higher body count than Amazing Man had managed, and wouldn’t it be better to keep it that way? It was hard to argue with that logic.

Miss Perry was released, because Amazing Man was above petty things like personal revenge. She is now happily employed as a Field Hand in the Angola Liberty Farm.


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591 thoughts on “The Wind’s Hind Quarters 6/30

  1. @Meredith – Don’t forget the mildly racist Welsh Rarebit.

    Crap. Excuse me while I go make toast covered in a toasted, gooey cheese sauce.

  2. GSLamb: Who’s a vegetarian? I’m certainly not. Like steak or chicken, tofu has its own merits and is good in its own way. My favorite tofu dish (ma po dofu or tofu) traditionally has meat.

  3. @Ginger

    I just had dinner so I don’t have any excuse to get bread and make toast. 🙁

    @GSLamb

    Oh, Welsh Rarebit is one of the best kinds of toast. Also, way easier to evenly distribute your flavourings than with ordinary cheese on toast. I usually skip the beer (for practical reasons – you don’t need much and my alcohol tolerance is terrible so finishing off a bottle of ale is an occasional treat) but use plenty of mustard, salt, pepper and just the right amount of worcester sauce. Cooked until still just gooey in the middle, argh I am really regretting already having dinner.

    (The cheese-themed Goblin Emperor sequel should definitely have posh banquet Welsh Rarebit.)

  4. Michael Eochaidh on July 1, 2015 at 12:28 pm said:
    My favorite tofu dish (ma po dofu or tofu) traditionally has meat.

    Oh yes, a good introduction for meatatarians to tofu.

  5. Michael Eochaidh on July 1, 2015 at 12:28 pm said:

    GSLamb: Who’s a vegetarian? I’m certainly not. Like steak or chicken, tofu has its own merits and is good in its own way. My favorite tofu dish (ma po dofu or tofu) traditionally has meat.

    OK, you win! I’ll concede the toast but I stand firm on coffee and BBQ and to heck with what the combined might of America and the Australia might say.

  6. I haven’t liked tofu any time I’ve tried it, but maybe I haven’t tried it the right way. Any recommendations for awesome tofu dishes? I don’t care if there’s meat or not.

  7. Bruce Baugh:

    this is one reason why I have suggested that individual creators make a public statement that they do not want to be included on slates and have not authorized such.

    If they do it now – or at least prior to nominations for next year – they’ll be on record; folks who see it and see that an individual HAS been placed on a slate will contact them. They’ll know about it. They’ll ask to be removed and (most) will make their wishes known publicly.

    It isn’t perfect, but it will go a long way towards pulling the rug out from under the tactic you mention.

  8. Meredith on July 1, 2015 at 12:52 pm said:

    I haven’t liked tofu any time I’ve tried it, but maybe I haven’t tried it the right way. Any recommendations for awesome tofu dishes? I don’t care if there’s meat or not.

    You can’t go wrong with Michael Eochaidh’s recommendation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapo_doufu ) or similar hotpot style dishes. They key with tofu is that it gives texture rather than taste and is very adaptable depending on the type and how it is cooked. I don’t know what the authentic version has but the mapo dofu I’ve tried has very soft tofu that just sort of melts as you eat. A good (IMHO) Pad Thai on the other hand will have firmer tofu that has been seared by the stir frying – but that dish has so many things in it that the tofu doesn’t get much attention.

  9. Stevie on July 1, 2015 at 12:04 pm said:

    Once or twice a week he hosts ‘The Big Idea’ where an author can let people know about the thinking which led to the book which is being published; those writers include Theodore Beale.

    And Sarah Hoyt and John C Wright. I thought SJWs were supposed to silence their critics, not give them a platform. I’m so confused.

  10. Various:
    The idea of a Welsh Rarebit that is also mildly racist is now stuck in my head forever. Tasty but tends to say inappropriate things about immigration policy.

  11. People it’s 34°C here, and I just cycled home through what felt like soup, and not good soup either. Stop talking about hot food.
    Let’s discuss cocktails instead. With lots of ice.

  12. @ Shambles

    If no one else has brought it up yet, the author of _Nine Goblins_ just released _Bryony and Roses_, which I enjoyed very much and which might be right up your alley.

    @ the various vegetarians / vegans in the group–you have all my sympathy. Some people make the biggest hairy deal about things that are really no skin off their noses.

  13. Meredith: Any recommendations for awesome tofu dishes?

    I’ve always enjoyed the eggplant-and-tofu that Panda Express (a restaurant chain in the US) does. There are recipes for versions of it here and here. The version I’ve had used unpeeled small eggplants, and the tofu is browned.

  14. Reposting because I accidentally posted this in yesterday’s thread:

    Re: barbecue: Anyone up for a File770 expedition to Arthur Bryant’s next year?
    (A few years ago when Worldcon was in San Antonio, Moshe Feder and I rented a car and spent most of a day on a road trip to Lockhart, TX for bbq meals at Smitty’s and Kreuz Market. Around the same time, Scott Edelman was making a pilgrimage to Franklin Barbecue, in Austin)

  15. anna feruglio dal dan wrote

    Let’s discuss cocktails instead. With lots of ice.

    While I’ve heard good things about mint juleps (mint, alcohol, and ice), I personally prefer Shandy, which is not very familiar to Americans, being an Irish drink (and keep in mind that traditionally, Irish folks told each other to drink hot tea on hot days, which I did until one day in the Caribbean I realized that to the average Irish person of that time, 76 degrees F/24 degrees C was a “hot day”, and anything higher than that required ice). Shandy is originally a combination of lemonade and beer, although in the US we have a preponderance of lemon-lime sodas that will suffice. The choice of ice is left to the consumer of the beverage.

  16. Anna

    My sympathies; I’m completely wiped out by the humidity. Cycling through it justifies a large cocktail…

  17. I disagree that tofu gives texture and not taste. The flavor of tofu is fairly mild compared to many other foods, but that doesn’t mean that it’s non-existent. One of my favorite hot-weather meals (to pacify Anna Feruglio Dal Dan) is hiyayakko, which is a Japanese dish which is basically cubes of cold firm tofu, with some cut-up chives and a little bit of soy sauce.

  18. Shandy is originally a combination of lemonade and beer, although in the US we have a preponderance of lemon-lime sodas that will suffice.

    There are also commercial brewers who produce Shandy’s if that’s your bag.

  19. 16°C here in freakin’ midsummer, I’ve been drinking hot tea. At least it’s warmer than it was last week.

  20. Morris Keesan: I remember my visit to Arthur Bryant’s in 1976. Another LA fan, Allan Rothstein, told me to call ahead and see if there was a dress code. I did. The woman on the other end of the line said: “Just wear clothes, honey!”

  21. And I finally get to the end of the comments at the end of the day. I suppose this means I can post heretical bbq views freely and avoid ostracism. Anyway, the best barbecue is Brazilian, as the last churrascaria I was at served chicken hearts on a skewer. Once anywhere in the Carolinas or elsewhere starts to do that, they will win my allegiance. Looking north, the best meat to ever come out of a barbecue pit in the US is brisket. If anyone is still reading this and is from a region where barbeque is not simply a sauce you buy in the supermarket, do you have a recommendation for finding it in NYC?

    Also, the best tofu I have ever had was made in the restaurant I was in. If you ever find a Japanese place that makes its own tofu on premises, get it. It is nothing like what you can buy in a supermarket.

    Edit:

    This blog is on West Coast time. That means it hasn’t been more than 3 hours since the last post. Oops.

  22. Commercial shandy is available, but oddly enough, I find it doesn’t really taste good at all. I mean, I’m not a beer drinker, but mixing beer with lemonade or with soda makes a very palatable-to-me drink. I also don’t like commercially available “iced tea*”, so maybe there’s something in the processing of the beverage that makes it unpalatable to me.

    *Tea, in order of preference: Loose-leaf, properly brewed** > tea bags > No, thank you > Herbal tisanes

    ** Need I mention black tea > white tea > green tea? I didn’t think so.

    ETA: We used to have a lovely churrascaria, which also had a lovely selection of salads. Alas, it is gone, and all that we have to chose from is Urban BBQ and various pollerias.

  23. Tuna salad on toast.
    Peanut butter on toast.
    Welsh Rarebit.
    Eggs n spinach n cheese on toast.
    French toast.
    Bread pudding (which is just French toast done up in the oven).

    This has been brought to you by the Toast Marketing Board.*

    No BBQ. I am also a BBQ agnostic. I’ll eat it if there’s nothing else available but won’t seek it out. Thankfully my wife’s favorite BBQ place does really good mac and cheese.

    *ObSF

  24. @Ginger

    I’m not sure shandy is a particularly Irish drink. It is pretty common in the UK too. The Germans also have the same drink which they call radler.

    It is very good on extremely hot days like today, better than just a pint of beer for the first pint.

    Also the drink tea on a hot day is a fairly common saying in the UK too. My mum always said it, and we are from East Anglia and we have no Irish in the family.

  25. An alternate version of shandy uses ginger beer instead of the lemonade.
    Mostly for hot-weather drinking I just go for a good beer. Pale ale, Belgian-style witbier (we now have Celis again, being brewed just one state over from me; originated by Belgian master brewer Piere Celis, after he left Hoegaarden, brewed for a while in Austin, Texas, it went through a small series of larger conglomerates before being revived recently by Celis’s daughter), pilsener, lambic, etc. But not mass-market American lagers.
    For cold cocktail drinking, I tend towards gin- or rum-based drinks: the classic G&T, Tom Collins, Cuba Libre, and in the past couple of years I’ve gotten into making mojitos. In a couple of hours, I intend to be drinking a large (non-alcoholic) lime rickey at Bartley’s Burger Cottage in Harvard Square, along with a “Gay Marriage” burger to celebrate the Supreme Court (Bartley’s has an ever-changing selection of burgers named after celebrities and news events. I bet they’re selling a lot of this one this week).

  26. Speaking of hot weather, has anyone been following the temps in Spokane?

  27. Cocktails!

    I’m fond of the Negroni, or its tasty variant the Boulevardier.

    Might not be the best choice for a first cooling drink though. This is Pims weather, especially as Wimbledon is on. The blackberry and elderflower variant is rather tasty.

  28. @Camestros Felapton: If your food is making bigoted statements, you probably have bigger problems than the racism…

  29. Jason:

    do you have a recommendation for finding [bbq] in NYC?

    Brisket Town and Hometown. I can’t vouch for these personally, but they come highly recommended by people whose taste in bbq I respect.

  30. Re: Goblin Emperor Welsh Rarebit banquet…

    Poor Maia has enough trouble keeping his lace out of the food. Will you *really* make him eat melted drippy cheese….?

    (delicious, delicious gooey cheese….)

  31. Cool, geek editor wars and BBQ wars are more fun.

    IMHO Emacs is still an improvement over its successors. But vi (including vim) still has a place. My fingers know vi commands without having to think about them, and certain things (notably g/pattern1/s/pattern2/pattern3) are easier. I know ed from way back, but still use it from time to time in constrained environments or when tty settings were hosed. I suspect that ed users are a dying breed (literally).

    A friend recently made brisket. He smoked it with oak at low heat for a long time. He used no sauce. He used a rub before cooking, and used a mop with apple vinegar and brown sugar while cooking. The result was moist and flavorful in a subtle yet intense way, with wonderful bark.

  32. Thanks for the tofu recommendations!

    Totally ridiculous cocktail:
    (Affectionately known as the Island Hopper)
    One shot each of Baileys Irish Cream and Malibu Coconut Rum plus one and a half (or two) shots of Creme de Menthe in a large glass, fill with milk and however much double cream you feel you can get away with, stir, enjoy, try not to fall over. 🙂

    Re: shandy

    The best commercially available shandy used to be Fentiman’s, in a can – now that that’s been discontinued its Fentiman’s in a bottle, but its not quite as good. No other commercially available shandy can compare.

    @Cassy B

    The delicious gooey cheese is worth it.

  33. Cubist on July 1, 2015 at 1:28 pm said:
    @Camestros Felapton: If your food is making bigoted statements, you probably have bigger problems than the racism…

    My food says that it objects to being called a bigot and that it is all political correctness gone mad. Next time I will add more paprika and less talkback radio.

  34. Morris Keesan on July 1, 2015 at 1:12 pm said:
    I disagree that tofu gives texture and not taste.

    I stand corrected. I tend to eat and cook very spicy foods – so any flavor the tofu may have is beaten into submission. I will look out for those Japanese suggestions .

  35. Late to the game, I see. So those of us who are anti-slate aren’t Christians? First time I’ve heard being Roman Catholic isn’t Christian, but whatever…

    How many days until Sasquan?
    Two score days and ten,
    Can we get there by candlelight?
    Yes and back again…

  36. Tofu exists in so many dishes in so many forms that it’s difficult for me to recommend one. It’s sort of like asking, what’s the best dish that has pasta of some form in it?

    That being said, the suggestions that have been made for Ma-po Tofu and Tofu Pad Thai are probably good since they are both popular and very common. But to get more specific it’d help to know a bit about what you like. Tofu is used in a lot of Asian cuisines, but there are big differences among Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Tibetan, Mongolian, Malay, etc., etc. styles. It’s also been more recently adapted into a lot of other cooking styles as well.

    Do you particularly like any of those cuisines? None of them? Do you like spicy food? Gooey desserts? Rich sauces? Bite-sized snacks?

  37. This is definitely the time for one of the following;

    Gin and Tonic
    Vodka Tonic
    Pimms Cup
    Dark and Stormy
    Sangria
    Frozen Margarita

    I think I am going home, ordering BBQ and having myself a cocktail.

    Thank you File 770 for the dinner plans!

  38. The best Texas barbecue that I’ve ever had was a beef rib from Louis Mueller in Taylor. Man, that was scrumptious.

  39. Hot day beverage:
    I was also brought up on the hot tea on a warm day idea. Having since experienced genuine hot weather, I am no longer convinced.

    Shandy – yes! A good use for cheap beer.

    Actual beer: some great Australian and US IPAs around that are still tasty when chilled.

    Proper British cider – fantastically refreshing but dangerously easy to drink to excess.

    Gin and tonic. Can’t be beat.

  40. Re:tofu

    My advice is to go for cultures that have a tradition of using tofu: Chinese, Japanese and other Asian cuisines that have had enough history to come up with tofu dishes that taste good. (I wouldn’t introduce someone to tofu by giving them a tofu burger.)

  41. Since we are veering towards food rather than books these days, may I suggest for tomorrow’s round up the discussion be about peas in guacamole.

  42. @soon lee

    “Here, have this bean curd burger. You will love it.

    I promise.”

  43. @ Gabriel F – Book of Life was AMAZING. I saw it, came out of the theater, went to the bookstore next door and bought the art book. It was just beautiful.

  44. @Meredith

    The best tofu dish I’ve had is a tofu and pork belly hotpot.

    But I’ve also had a wonderful Japanese salad which I’ve replicated at home – it’s basically avocado, tofu and seaweed with a rice vinegar dressing. Really good!

  45. Spokane in August is usually HOT and not that humid.

    Yep. Spokane itself is in the desert, similar in climate to Reno (though not as hot). The area around the convention center is nice, but it is directly on a river fed by glacial melt.

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