(1) LOST BONESTELL LITHOGRAPHS COMING ONLINE FREE. You’ll soon be able to view thirty-two recently discovered industrial illustrations from Chesley Bonestell’s early career. Starting this Thursday, April 3, Michael Swanwick and Marianne Porter will be posting one new illustration every workday on Swanwick’s blog at Flogging Babel.

Most of these images have not been seen for over a century.
Chesley Bonestell was the most significant and influential astronomical illustrator of the 20th century. But before his rise to fame he worked as an architectural illustrator. In 1918, he was commissioned by the Army Corps of Engineers to document the construction of a wartime munitions plant and hydroelectric dam in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Bonestell created 32 large-scale lithographs, showing the construction of the plant, including meticulous records of both industrial interiors, the dam and railroad being built, and the surrounding countryside. They were all signed in the stone.
The munitions factory was never a particularly successful enterprise; it came on line only a few weeks before World War One ended. But the hydroelectric dam was the first in the Tennessee Valley Authority, the massive project that made possible the economic and industrial development of the American South.
The thirty-two lithographs were stored in the Packwood House Museum in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, where only two were actually on display to the public. This set of prints are not numbered, and it is not clear if any other prints were made. The Museum was owned and operated by John Featherstone, and his wife, Edith Featherstone, an artist in her own right, and was intended to showcase her work, as well as central Pennsylvania arts and crafts. Eventually the museum was closed and its contents liquidated. The Bonestell lithographs seem to have been included in the collection because John Featherstone was the engineer in charge of the Muscle Shoals construction project.
The lithographs were purchased by Swanwick and Porter in an auction. When all of them have been posted online, a torrent will be created, making the complete collection available at full resolution.
Michael Swanwick is an award-winning science fiction and fantasy writer. His wife, Marianne Porter, is the editor and publisher of Dragonstairs Press. The first image to be posted is attached.
Swanwick explained on his blog today how the lithographs came into the couple’s possession: “Chesley Bonestell’s Lost Lithographs”.
“I don’t know what they are, but I hope you get them.”
That’s what the lady at the auction house said when Marianne Porter told her that all Marianne wanted were the Chesley Bonestell lithographs. There were 32 of them in the lot, and it was clear nobody at Pook & Pook knew what they were….
(2) KENNY GRAVILLIS Q&A. “Movie Poster Designer Kenny Gravillis Aims to Leave You Asking Questions” at PRINT Magazine.
…Is it common within the movie poster design industry to bid against other studios for projects?
Especially on really big films, there will be three to four different agencies. Just to give you an example, on Game of Thrones season two, there were like 11 agencies that worked on that. It’s super competitive. For independent films that don’t have that much money, they might only be able to hire one agency to work on it. But when you start getting into the Dunes of the world, then there are multiple agencies working on it. And they’re working on it until the end, by the way. You don’t even know if you’re gonna get the final post; it’s pretty wild….
…I also think successful movie posters can exist as standalone pieces in their own right, outside of their attachment to a movie. A graphic image or design that you might want on your wall or you find compelling simply because it looks good.
100%. The thing is, every filmmaker cares about their poster. There’s not one filmmaker that’s like, “Whatever…” Because it’s the face of the film. As great as trailers are, they’ll probably be forgotten. Nobody says, “I remember the trailer for Rosemary’s Baby or the trailer for Alien.” They’re like, “Oh, my God, the Alien poster!” …
…The other thing I’d like to say is that it never gets old. The other day, I went to see Captain America, and our poster was in the lobby. Seeing the stuff that I’ve worked on out in the world just never gets old. If it ever does, I think I’ll call it a day.

(3) CAN IT BE? “Trump Tariffs Hit Vox Day” says crusading journalist Camestros Felapton, who has found a way to leverage today’s headlines into a sff blog post. (By which I mean, dang, I wish I’d thought of it!)
…A country that surprised some in getting high tariffs was Switzerland at 31%. That’s higher than the UK (10%), EU (10%) and South Korea (25%). Sure would be a shame if some obnoxious hyper-nationalistic Trump support had invested a lot of money in printing and binding hardback books for Trump supporting fanboys in the US wouldn’t it?…
(4) A FIRST IN THE FIELD. A Deep Look by Dave Hook chronicles “’The Other Worlds’, Phil Stong editor, 1941 Wilfred Funk: The First Speculative Fiction Anthology”.
The Short: As discussed below, I believe The Other Worlds (aka The Other Worlds: 25 Modern Stories of Mystery and Imagination, 1942 editions), Phil Stong editor, 1941 Wilfred Funk, is the first speculative fiction anthology. I am glad I read it, but it’s a mixed bag and I would only recommend it to a big fan of horror, science fiction and fantasy from 1925 to 1940. It includes three essays by Stong in addition to 25 stories. My favorite story was the great “Alas, All Thinking!“, a novelette by Harry Bates (known best for “Farewell to the Master“, a novelette adapted for the movie “The Day The Earth Stood Still“), Astounding Stories, June 1935. I am not really a fan of horror, which influenced how I felt about The Other Worlds. My overall average rating is 3.45/5, or a rather anemic “Good”. It is in print, and available online…
(5) FUTURE TENSE. March 2025’s Future Tense Fiction story is “Coda,” by Arula Ratnakar—a story about computation, genetics, and cryptography.
The response essay, “Computing Consciousness”, is by computer scientist Christopher Moore, whose research actually inspired the story!
(6) TIME TO NOMINATE FOR THE CÓYOTL AWARDS. Members of the Furry Writers’ Guild are eligible to submit 2024 Cóyotl Awards nominations through April 5.
Nominations are open to all members of the Furry Writers’ Guild, though awards may be given to any work of anthropomorphic writing demonstrating excellence regardless of membership. Please see the award rules for what makes an eligible work. For a non-exhaustive list of what’s eligible, see the recommended reading list.
(7) DOUBLE-HEADER. In the first video below Erin Underwood interviews Martha Wells about her Murderbot series, with a couple of questions about the adaptation that is coming to Apple TV in May. The second video is a review of In The Lost Lands, which is an adaptation of GRRM’s short story.
Exclusive Interview with Martha Wells: Inside The Murderbot Diaries
Join me for this exclusive interview with Martha Wells, author of The Murderbot Diaries, as we explore one of science fiction’s most popular series — now being adapted into a new Apple TV series. What makes Murderbot so compelling, and how did Wells create such a nuanced, unforgettable character? Come watch on YouTube to find out!
In the Lost Lands, Movie Review – Worth the Watch?
Paul W.S. Anderson’s In the Lost Lands brings George R.R. Martin’s dark fantasy to life, but does its reliance on digital sets and AI-driven cinematography elevate or undermine the experience? With Milla Jovovich and Dave Bautista leading the charge, this film raises big questions about the future of sci-fi and fantasy filmmaking. Join me on YouTube where I break it down.
(8) ON TARGET. “’Woke’ criticism of Doctor Who proves show on right track, says its newest star” in the Guardian.
Criticisms that Doctor Who has become too “woke” prove the series is doing the right thing by being inclusive, its new star Varada Sethu has said.
Sethu plays the Doctor’s latest travelling companion, Belinda Chandra, in new episodes airing next month. With Ncuti Gatwa returning as the Doctor, the pairing marks the first time a Tardis team will comprise solely people of colour.
Speaking about the milestone, Sethu told the Radio Times: “Ncuti was like, ‘Look at us. We get to be in the Tardis. We’re going to piss off so many people.’…
And the BBC has a long profile with the actor: “Doctor Who: Varada Sethu wants to inspire young South Asian women”
When new Doctor Who companion Varada Sethu first told her family she wanted to be an actress, there wasn’t immediate support.
“They had difficulty coming to terms with it initially,” she tells BBC Asian Network News.
Varada, who will be playing Ncuti Gatwa’s sidekick, Belinda Chandra in the upcoming series, feels going into acting is “sadly still not encouraged in the South Asian community”.
“There’s an element of resistance we face,” the 32-year-old says.
But Varada wants to change all of that, and says inspiring young girls to follow their dreams is one of her big goals.
“I want to be the person that these girls can point out to and say: ‘She made it and she came from a community that looks like mine’.
“So I think I’ve gone about this with the energy of, I can’t fall flat on my face,” she says.
But the actress, who has had roles in Disney+ Star Wars series Andor, 2018 crime drama Hard Sun and Jurassic World Dominion, says change comes with challenges.
A report by the Creative Diversity Network found in 2022/23 the percentage of on-screen contributions by those who identify as South Asian or South Asian British was 4.9%.
That’s compared with the latest census data, analysed by the UK Government, that found around 8% of people from those backgrounds are in the working-age population.
“It’s a constant battle of failure isn’t an option,” says Varada.
“Because, you know, your uncle’s daughter who’s six, who might wanna go into acting when she’s a bit older, won’t be allowed to, if I become the cautionary tale.”…
(9) STRANGE NEW TREK. Gizmodo says “The First Trailer for Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Season 3 Is a Wild Trip”.
The new trailer immediately goes meta, detailing at least more than a few adventures where Strange New Worlds will take the crew of the Enterprise beyond the typical spacebound adventures and into some very meta territory–from murder mystery holoprograms, to a kitschy spin on the original Trek‘s ’60s production aesthetics. And that’s even before you get to Carol Kane’s Commander Pelia hooking up the whole ship to old-timey analogue phones!…
(10) VAL KILMER (1959-2025). Actor Val Kilmer, whose iconic genre roles included Batman Forever and Real Genius, died April 1 at the age of 65. The Hollywood Reporter tribute notes he was most famous for playing Iceman in Top Gun and Doc Holliday in Tombstone. And it also recalled some of his other sff work —
…Marlon Brando’s insane assistant in John Frankenheimer’s The Island of Dr. Moreau (1996);
…He was married to British actress Joanne Whalley from 1988 until their divorce in 1996. They met while working together on Willow and wed months later.
…Kilmer starred as rockabilly teen idol Nick Rivers in the daffy spy spoof Top Secret! (1984) from Jim Abrahams and the Zucker brothers.
…Kilmer also provided the voice of K.I.T.T. in a new version of TV’s Knight Rider in 2008-09
(11) MEMORY LANE(S)
[First piece written by Paul Weimer. Second piece by Cat Eldridge.]
April 2, 1968 — 2001: A Space Odyssey
By Paul Weimer: Did the “Blue Danube Waltz” play through your head just now? Or perhaps “Also Sprach Zarathrustra”? Possibly both? Even though I am not a music guy, both of those music pieces come to mind when I think of 2001. The music is the first thing I think of when I think of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
You know the story. Monolith uplifts Ape with the power of ultraviolence. Humans find the Monolith on the Moon, a ship heads to Jupiter to investigate where the signal went. Hal goes mad and kills most of his crew. David Bowman has an apotheosis.
But 2001 is far more than the music and that plot. It’s visuals, really the first time I saw it, I felt that this could be what space would be like. Slow sedate visuals but one that felt accurate. (The jokes/conspiracy theories that the real moon landing was directed by Kubrick come from the visuals of 2001). Be it the apes scene, the casualness of the lounge in the space station, the investigation of the monolith, daily life on the Discovery, or the very very weird ending. I am still not quite sure I get it. But is it absolutely unforgettable? Yes.
And that’s the fun thing about the movie. It is slow, very slow. But it doesn’t drag. It’s sedately and sedate in places, and then violently and suddenly. The movie seems to just know when to interrupt the quiet stately pace with a sudden action or point of drama. In any event, the movie holds my attention throughout. Every time I’ve started watching it, I’ve kept it on. It is THE space movie for me.
And it became clear to me that when I saw Star Trek The Motion Picture, just how much they tried to borrow from 2001. Maybe too much, for their own good. They learned the need for stately pacing…but not so much when to break it up.

By Cat Eldridge: Fifty-six years ago, 2001: A Space Odyssey had its world premiere on this date at the Uptown Theater in Washington, D.C., it would be nearly a month and three weeks, the fifteenth of May to be precise, before the United Kingdom would see this film.
It was directed as you know by Stanley Kubrick from a screenplay by him and Arthur C. Clarke who wrote the novel.
It spawned a sequel about which the less said the better. (My opinion, the critics sort of like it. Huh.)
It would win a Hugo at St. Louiscon over what I will term an extraordinarily offbeat field of nominees that year — Yellow Submarine, Charly, Rosemary’s Baby and the penultimate episode of The Prisoner, “Fallout”.
It did amazingly well box office wise, returning one hundred fifty million against just ten million in production costs.
So, what did the critics think of it then? Some liked, some threw up their guts. Some thought that audience members that liked it were smoking something to keep themselves high. (That was in several reviews.) Ebert liked it a lot and said that it “succeeds magnificently on a cosmic scale.” Others were less kind with Pauline Kael who I admit is not one of my favorite critics saying that it was “a monumentally unimaginative movie.” Humph.
I was too young to see when I came out, but an arts cinema showed a few decades later which I saw it there, so I did see it on a reasonably large screen. It is extraordinarily amazing film. I don’t think the Suck Fairy would any problems with it even today
Audience reviewers at Rotten Tomatoes currently give it a most not unsurprising rating of ninety two percent.
(12) TODAY’S BIRTHDAY.
[Written by Paul Weimer.]
April 2, 1948 — Joan D. Vinge, 77.
By Paul Weimer: It is fitting that The Snow Queen has her birthday just as we are getting out of winter and into Spring, and the treacherous Winters of the planet Tiamat are reluctantly getting ready to hand over the control of the planet to the Summers for a time. The original Snow Queen novel and its sequels is where I began reading Vinge’s work. I picked it up for the same reason I picked up many books in the mid to late 90’s–it had been on an award ballot and I was filling in the gaps of my reading. (It won for Best Novel at the Hugos in 1981, and was a finalist for the Nebula the same year). I found the worldbuilding of the novel most satisfying, and the titular Snow Queen and her grand plot to try and control the planet for its entire cycle by means of her clone I found to be a crackerjack story.
Only after reading the story did I realize how much the story was influenced by both the Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale, and by Robert Graves (The White Goddess). A re-read when I decided to read the entire series showed me that as much as I thought it has been rich and interesting, on a re-read the book was *even better*. The Snow Queen is one of those novels that the more you know, the even cleverer and more intricately woven it appears to be.
My favorite of that entire series is the standalone Tangled Up in Blue, which is really a noir mystery novel that just so happens to take place on the mean streets of Carbuncle. It’s a genre mashup that works even better than I hoped, and it works really standalone, too. You don’t need to read The Snow Queen to dive into Tangled Up in Blue.
Besides the stories set on Tiamat, Vinge has written plenty of other stuff as well. Catspaw is a favorite of mine, although it is a case where I accidentally started with the second book in the series not even knowing there was a first book (Psion). Vinge feels, like Julian May, like one of the last SF authors to really use and deploy telepathy in a major mainstream SF novel straight up.
Finally, Vinge has also written a number of movie tie-in novelizations, including one (Cowboys and Aliens) that actually redeems that (IMO) very flawed movie.

(13) COMICS SECTION.
- Cul de Sac is going to camp.
- Dinosaur Comics discusses cryonics.
- Loose Parts needs a lighter touch.
- Myth Tickle flips a classic Peanuts strip.
- Nancy hides a problem.
(14) DC COMICS HISTORY. BBC’s Witness History remembers “The wonder woman of DC Comics”.
In 1976, Jenette Kahn began one of the biggest roles in comic books – publisher of DC Comics, home to Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. She was only 28 and the first female boss.

(15) WRITING WHILE DISABLED. In the second audio episode of Writing While Disabled at Strange Horizons, hosts Kristy Anne Cox and Kate Johnston “welcome Farah Mendlesohn, acclaimed SFF scholar and conrunner, to talk all things hearing, dyslexia, and more ADHD adjustments, as well as what fandom could and should be doing better for accessibility at conventions, for both volunteers and attendees.”
There’s a transcript at the link, where you can also watch the full interview on video with close-caption subtitles.

(16) VIDEOS OF THE DAY. “Oh Jeez, Rick and Morty Will Return in May” reports Gizmodo.
April Fools’ Day is upon us, but this is no joke: Rick and Morty season eight hits Adult Swim May 25, with a first look to prove it. The news came as part of Adult Swim’s annual April 1 celebration, and also included a 22-minute special of favorite Rick and Morty moments re-interpreted in appropriately and unexpectedly freaky ways. Adult Swim described it as pulling from “absurd, live-action, theater-based genres,” and frankly you just need to watch it to believe it.
[Thanks to John King Tarpinian, Chris Barkley, Cat Eldridge, Paul Weimer, Erin Underwood, Michael Swanwick, SF Concatenation’s Jonathan Cowie, Mark Roth-Whitworth, Steven French, Kathy Sullivan, Teddy Harvia, Mike Kennedy, and Andrew Porter for some of these stories. Title credit belongs to File 770 contributing editor of the day Mark Roth-Whitworth.]
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(1) It’s wonderful to see history recovered like this.
(5) Thank you for letting us know about these.
(0) Thanks, Mike.
(1) Oh.My. MY!!! Need to talk to Michael…
(3) Oh, that would be just terrrrible. (#insert picture of the world’s smallest violin, being played by a tardigrave)
(8) It starts to be mind-boggling how shows that have been this way all along, and suddenly MAGAts are shocked, shocked I tell you, to find them “suddenly” woke.
(9) Oh, dear. I just told Ellen we really need to finish watching season 2.
Memory Lanes: I am regularly annoyed that sf, in video/film, is expected that it MUST be all action, all the time. 2001 goes at the pace the story needs to be told. And my first wife and I saw it when it came out in Philly. sigh Walking out, and hearing people going “huh”, and we look at each other, saying “wasn’t it obvious?” WE DEMAND THAT FUTURE BACK, RIGHT NOW.
Birthday: a lovely lady, and a pleasure to talk to (though it’s been a long tiime). And let’s not forget she did the novel of Ladyhawk.
(15) Balitcon has had accessability as a division for a lot of years, and my wife was running it for many of them. (Speaking of disability, the third major PoV character in my Becoming Terran, no, Rosalyn isn’t based on her, no, no (and she vetted every line)).
The Bonestell lithographs are an incredible find. Bravo Michael and Marianne!
As for 2001 …. I saw it a few weeks later at the Uptown. Oh. My. The first thing that struck about the film was the sound. The Uptown had a sound system that was incredible. One could feel the opening notes.
“2001” – I had the novelization, with the b/w photos from the film. And I remember sitting in the lecture hall at UCSB, while someone in the row in front of me was reading the Mad Magazine version, “201 Minutes of a Space Idiocy”. I don’t actually feel any need to see the film. (Clarke is not one of my favorite authors.)
(12), Joan D. Vinge. Paul, thanks for the writeup. I love her novels, which you discussed nicely.
She also has written great short fiction. My personal favorites from work read in the last few years include:
1. “View from a Height”, a short story, Analog June 1978, rated 3.9/5, or “Great”. Locus Award runner-up, Hugo Award finalist.
2. “The Peddler’s Apprentice”, a novelette by Joan D. Vinge and Vernor Vinge, Analog August 1975, rated 3.8/5, or “Great”.
3. “Eyes of Amber”, a novelette, Analog, Analog June 1977, rated 4/5, or “Great”. In the “Special Women’s Issue” with “The Screwfly Solution” by James Tiptree, Jr.
4. Although not read lately, “Fireship”, a novella, Analog December 1978, was a Hugo Award runner-up, and Nebula and Locus Award nomination.
I need to reread her collection “Eyes of Amber and Other Stories”, 1979 Signet/NAL, as I have not read it for a while.
2001 — I still have Dad’s copy of the novel (with the tipped-in photo section), which I read long before ever seeing the movie, as well as his copy of Lost Worlds of 2001.
As for the sequel, I think it’s fine. Much more … mainstream than the original, but by the same token, more accessible if I just want to settle in with a couple hours of SF.
(1) Lost Bonestell Lithographs. What a great story of the rediscovery of these lithographs. Thanks.
(4) The Other Worlds. My thanks to Steve Wright for his information on Phil Stong, who was a truly interesting choice to edit The Other Worlds.
(1) History rescued. Excellent!
(3) Switzerland’s a piker. Reunion can glory in a 37% tariff. So, though he’ll howl, that guy and his unsold hardbound books are getting off light.
Remind me what we import from Reunion, anyone?
P J Evan’s wrote:
““2001” – I had the novelization … I don’t actually feel any need to see the film. (Clarke is not one of my favorite authors.)”
I don’t disagree much with your attitude toward Clarke, but I do think that “2001” deserves more. While someone can correct my no doubt faulty memory, but I’ve read much over the years to understand that the original source for the movie was a Clarke short story (read after I read the novelization) that lent nothing but the very concept of “ancient aliens”. The movie, however, was mainly Kubrick and Clarke himself was puzzled with it – which explains the sequels I think with Clarke attempting to wrest some control over a project he couldn’t fathom. Finally, Mad magazine parodying a movie is often more a stamp of approval (of its popularity at least) than of approbation.
(11) Happy birthday, birthday movie! So many birthdays in that movie. Almost as though it were some sort of hint.
“I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t file that”
@Liz Carey – Heard Island got off lightly with only 10% but apparently the penguins are absolutely furious! (No human has set foot there for ten years …)
(8) Presumably, the collapsing UK ratings are also a cause for celebration?
(11) 2010 stands up well enough on its own as a thriller about the stupidity of injecting global politics into extraterrestrial exploration. Best to treat the two films as entirely separate entities.
Tariffs: Don’t overlook the inclusion of the British Indian Ocean Territory. Uninhabited except by a nominal RAF base, actually USAF, on Diego Garcia.
11) Saw it when it first came out. Have the “novelization” (the copy I bought when first released), also have Lost Worlds of 2001.
Was marginally involved in the making of a “student” film parody (“2001: A Movie”. EVERYTHING was labeled.) Wanted to but never did obtain and build the plastic model kit.
I can watch that film multiple times in a row. Its pacing is perfect, the camera work legendary.
And the one thing that remains most prominent about it so far as I am concerned is that fifty freakin’ seven years after it was released, it is STILL the gold standard for Science Fiction in film. I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy was a bit funnier, and Silent Running’s AIs were cuter, but those films still rank below 2001 on the “Best, Most Science Fictiony Science Fiction Films Of All Time”.
The highest grossing films of 1968 included 2001 (and Planet of the Apes, which was good but despite stinking paws can’t hold a candle) Rosemary’s Baby, Funny Girl, Bullitt, The Lion In Winter, The Green Berets and The Odd Couple.
Has a better occult/horror film been made since Rosemary’s? Yes.
Has a better detective flick been made since Bullitt? Yes.
Has a better historical drama been made since Lion? Yes.
A better war film than Green Berets? Yes.
A better musical than Funny Girl? Yes.
A better comedy than Odd Couple? Yes.
A better SF Film than 2001: A Space Odyssey? Emphatically – NO!.
I would LOVE to be able to watch a science fiction film that is “better” than 2001. I’m beginning to think it will never happen during my lifetime.
Steve Davidson on April 3, 2025 at 4:38 am said:
“A better SF Film than 2001: A Space Odyssey? Emphatically – NO!.”
Those are probably fighting words, but I won’t fight and will grant that you are probably 90%+ correct.
I think that the first thing I ever wrote for a fanzine was a 2001 parody that appeared in the first fanzine I ever saw. (As earlier discussed here, edited by Jerry Lapidus.)
In those days they did not clear the theater between showings, and one Saturday I saw 2001 several times in a row. (I started to say 7, but I couldn’t have fit that many run times in. That must have been my total 2001 theater viewings at one early point.)
The world portrayed in the movie is no utopia. The Cold War is still on, and as is clearer from the book, many of those satellites toward the opening are weapons, like the bone but worse. (And, contrary to many false descriptions, the bone shot dissolves into a shot of one of them, not into the shuttle.)
I saw a midnight showing of 2001 at college in the 80s (long after I had read the novel/novelization hybrid). I nearly missed it because the posters the group putting on the showing had a very stylized font, making me initially think they were showing something called “ZOO!”
11). I’ve always despised 2001. Fortunately I read the novelization before seeing the film, so I at least had an idea what the ending was about. I think it’s mainly remembered for its groundbreaking special effects, that still hold up all these years later. But otherwise is a long, dragging, boring film with one of the stupidest Sf endings until Interstellar. I thought 2010 was a much better story and much better movie (I suppose I should come clean that I hate Kubrick as a director. Except for Spartacus and Strangelove, I’ve hated everything he did. Only Barry Lyndon dragged worse than 2001).
8) I’m the exact demographic people expect to be mad at Dr. Who, but I ain’t. I like the new guy (not as much as I liked Capaldi, but you could say that for Smith or Davidson as well). Plus, you gotta let each Doctor’s story play out and then judge en toto.
10) Loved him in Tombstone. And in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which if you’ve not seen you should.
11/12) I’m one of those ‘y’all must have been high’ people because I have always found 2001 to be mind bogglingly overrated, both book and movie. Turgid, ponderous, glacial, and entirely too in love with itself, it is the Kubrick-est Kubrick film imaginable. (Although to be fair, like Troyce I should disclose that I am decidedly not a Kubrick guy, with Spartacus and Full Metal Jacket being the exception.)
@mark You wrote a novel? Hopefully it’s getting publicized elsewhere because you never mention it here…
@Steve Davidson I could name five better SF movies off the top of my head.
(8) Yeah, people trying to insist that ‘diversity’ doesn’t sell are going to have a heck of a time accounting for much of the history of the genre. Original Star Trek would be long-forgotten, X-Men would have fizzled out soon after its creation, and no one would have gone to see Black Panther or the Barbie movie or any of the Spider-Verse films. Like, even if the representation of people from minority/marginalized categories were somehow disproportionately higher in fiction than what you get in the nonfictional human population (…it isn’t, but for the sake of the argument), I’d take it over a forced lack of diversity.
@Michael Burianyk
Mad’s parodies were sometime more understandable that whatever the subject was. I think “201 Minutes” was one of those.
Interesting range of takes on 2001, SF films, and Kubrick. I’m old enough to have seen nearly every movie mentioned in this thread in original theatrical release (notable exceptions: Funny Girl and Green Berets), and while I don’t think much of rankings and comparisons, 2001 has held up really well over the decades, no matter what one thinks of Kubrick’s enigmatic ending. (Clarke’s novel kind of untangles it, but even retrofitting it on the film experience takes some dodging and weaving in the viewpoint department.)
2001 was the first movie where I thought the visuals–the special effects–matched the “SF” content–where I could not identify the techniques that were behind what I was seeing on screen. (King Kong was terrific for its day, but a 1960s-trained eye could call out the techniques, just as it could spot traveling mattes and glass shots in later movies.) And to this day, the traveling shot in the rotating section of the Discovery mystifies me, despite having seen multiple explanations of how it was done. (Chunks of the Stargate sequence I could see were processed aerial footage–outtakes from Dr. Strangelove, if I recall correctly.) The next SF movie that I recall having the same degree of visual convincingness was Star Wars, though the SF content operated in a completely different register (pulp adventure rather than hard SF). And of course CGI, motion capture, and related technologies now make it possible for the utterly impossible to be put on film. (The Andy Serkis/CGI Gollum is another landmark.)
Regarding 2001, I think the short story gave the movie more than just the concept of “ancient aliens.” It also implied that the discovery of the monolith would lead to some sort of interaction with the aliens. IIRC, the monolith sent a signal upon being discovered by us humans.
The film reflects Clarke’s theme of transcendence, which crops up in such books as Childhood’s End.
And despite the film’s ambiguity (and trust in the audience’s ability to understand it), I like it quite a lot and should watch it again. (Note: I’ve never read the book.)
I suspect that if I’d been older than college age when I first saw 2001, I would have been put off rather than intrigued by the “transcendant” ending. But profound-looking ambiguity was big in those days: consider the lyrics for Simon and Garfunkel songs and a lot of the other popular culture of the period. But what really grabbed me were the segments leading up to the trippy ending, not the ending itself.
These days, when I watch 2001, one of the things that transfixes me is the utterly CASUAL way that Kubrick uses fixed-mounted cameras and rotating sets to portray a zero-g environment (or an environment with centrifugal spinning to simulate gravity).
The one place where it falls down just a little is in the early scenes up on the space station, where the set is large enough to show the curving floor, but when people appear at the far end of the set, they’re walking upright instead of perpendicular to the floor. But that would’ve been very challenging to pull off.
3) VD (heh) is claiming it’s no big deal.
11) If you can lay your hands on a copy of “The Lost Worlds of 2001,” it’s definitely worth a read; has the original short story, as well as a lot about how the movie/book were made (simultaneously) as well as various different working versions of the ending.
“Feed patient blue food. Feed pa…” Sorry, wrong book.
Quatermain: should I assume you’re joking? I’ve been trying not to mention both of them all the time… (11,000 Years and Becoming Terran).
Mm.. re Kubrick/Clarke’s “2001” -the motion picture, the publishing co (Taschen) issued some little time ago, a coffee table style format large book on the making etc of the movie. With co-operation from the Kubrick Estate and the film owners etc. In fact the book is in a suitable cover, shaped like the obelisk!! Oh and, BTW, I think it is splendid and I have no connection with them in any way. Best wishes
Mark says Quatermain: should I assume you’re joking? I’ve been trying not to mention both of them all the time… (11,000 Years and Becoming Terran).
Oh I think he’s serious. Quite serious. You want me to count up the number of times that you have mentioned them? Really want me to?