(1) THE HUGO RUNOFFS. The Hugo Awards official site has the 2021 voting results online. (But you already know that, right?)
- Final ballot placements and detailed voting counts are available here (PDF).
- Nominating details are here (PDF).
(2) CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS. Nicholas Whyte’s “2021 Hugos in detail” gives his analysis of the voting statistics released after last night’s ceremony. Here’s a narrative hook for you –
Four categories saw the total number of votes for finalists other than No Award dip below 30% of the total poll – Best Fan Writer (28.8%), Best Professional Editor (Long Form) (28.2%), Best Fanzine (27.2%), and Best Fancast (26.8%). Best Fancast was within 43 votes of not being awarded at all, due to dropping below the 25% threshold….
His comments on the Best Related Work category include:
Unusually, DisCon 3 published No Award runoff figures for every place in every category (the constitution only specifies that this should be done in determining the winner). The numbers for No Award here were particularly high in the last four places, with 358 preferring No Award to 753 who preferred George R. R. Martin Can Fuck Off Into the Sun….
Pat Cadigan shared her opinion of the result in that category with her Facebook readers.
Also relieved that the tirade against George RR Martin did not win the Hugo. I am still baffled as to how a screed like that could have been nominated in a category that has included complex, book-length works of biography, scholarship, art, and other far more worthy examples of associated work.
I don’t care what you think of George RR Martin. I don’t care if you think the author was right. That’s not my point. A blog entry or single article is not in any way equivalent to the winner, which is a translation of Beowulf by Maria Dhavana Headley. Translating requires a lot more care, actual knowledge, and hard work than merely venting your spleen.
That would-be polemic was the Donald Trump of Hugo nominations: unworthy.
(3) MASQUERADE PHOTOS. Kevin Roche responded to a request in comments for links to DisCon III Masquerade photos.
- The first link is to the album of official photos by Olav Rokne and Amanda Wakaruk.
- The second is to a spreadsheet of all the entries, noting which won awards, and with an index to which of Olav’s photos are for that entry.
(4) CAVALCADE OF FORMER CHAIRS. The 2021 Worldcon Chairs Photo Session is online at YouTube. Nearly all of those present at DisCon III made it to the session. Also includes current chair Mary Robinette Kowal, and a Chengdu representative.
The traditional gathering of chairs of the World Science Fiction Convention, held at DisCon III, the 79th World Science Fiction Convention, in Washington DC. Videography by Lisa Hayes.
(5) CORRECTION TO DISCON III ART SHOW SALES. “DisCon III regrets that there was an error in how sales tax was calculated for sales in the Art Show,” says today’s news release:
Instead of the correct 6% rate, it was being calculated as 10%. If you were mischarged, we are providing you two options.
(1) You can consider the additional 4% as a bonus to the artist. We will pay the correct sales tax amount to the District of Columbia, with all of the remaining amount going to the artist.
(2) You can request a refund of the 4% overcharge by sending an email to [email protected]. Please submit your request by Wednesday, December 29 as we cannot pay the artists for their sales until we know the amount due them. If you have any questions or concerns about this issue, also address them to the Finance team.
(6) THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN. Kevin Standlee reports in “Worldcon 2021 Day 4: Final Business Meeting Results” what the meeting decided about seven new amendments to the WSFS Constitution that were taken up after the Site Selection report was made at Saturday’s business meeting. You can read the text of items F.1 to F.7 in the business meeting Agenda on pages 36-41. See Kevin’s post for his commentary about the proceedings.
- F.1 One Episode per Series –– failed on a show of hands
- F.2 30 Days Hath New Business — passed 34-15.
- F.3 The Statue of Liberty Play — passed on a show of hands.
- F.4 Shut Up and Take My Money — referred to a special committee
- F.5 A Matter of Days — adopted by unanimous consent
- F.6 Non-transferrability of Voting Rights — adopted on a 35-22 vote
- F.7 Best Audiobook — referred the proposal to the Hugo Awards Study Committee on a vote by show of hands.
(7) WHICH ONE IS THE FILER? Andrew (not Werdna) assures us, “I’m the non-Narn in this picture.” But he also knew that merely saying we could tell who he was by his distinctive headgear wasn’t going to be enough: “I was right — I ran into another guy with a button covered bucket hat.”
(8) RAYTHEON PRESENCE AT HUGOS. Gizmodo’s Justin Carter used his platform to presume that his opinion represents all fans’ opinions: “The Hugo Awards Face Backlash for Raytheon Sponsorship”. But it’s true that some are protesting the decision.
…At time of writing, DisCon has yet to speak on the partnership with Raytheon for the event. For now, fans are left feeling soured that a night that should’ve been about a genre they loved had to brush up against a reality they hate.
(9) YOUR TURN IN THE BARREL. Amber Benson advises SFWA Blog readers about “Managing A Creator’s Public Profile and Navigating Audience Entitlement”.
….What happens when you step out of fandom into the pole position? A.k.a., ‘I’ve written a thing and it’s been published and now people are talking about it and me on the internet’?
Well, I’m not going to lie. You may be in for a very overwhelming and unsettling experience. Because all those feelings of ownership you had as a fan, well, they are now going to be applied to you and your work. By people you have never met before who have no compunction about @replying to you on social media in order to say mean things about you.
To a lot of these people, you have ceased to be a real live human being with feelings. You are now a “public figure” and that comes with many caveats, including being physically and emotionally vulnerable in a way that fans, with their ability to remain anonymous, are not. It also means you will be open to ridicule, judgement, and disdain online (and sometimes to your face). In balance, you will also be loved, put on a pedestal, and maybe even called a “genius.”
You and your work now belong to the world at large. And that world contains three kinds of people: fans who love what you create, critics who hate your output—and everyone else in the world who could give a crap that you make art. And between you and me, I’m not sure what’s more painful: the armchair critics who think you stink (at least they’re thinking about you) or the fact that 90 percent of the world, upon hearing your name, will only mutter: Who . . . ?
So how do you handle all of the attention—both positive, negative, and ambivalent—when you finally put your work out into this very complicated world? I have my thoughts on the subject and I will share them with you below….
(10) MEDIA BIRTHDAY.
1938 — [Item by Cat Eldridge.] Eighty-three years ago, Hercule Poirot’s Christmas was first published by the Collins Crime Club. In the States, it bore first the title of Murder for Christmas and later A Holiday fur Murder when published in paperback.
Critics generally thought it was one of her best mysteries. The New York Times Book Review critic Issac Anderson said of it that “Poirot has solved some puzzling mysteries in his time, but never has his mighty brain functioned more brilliantly than in Murder for Christmas.”
The story was adapted for television in an episode of Agatha Christie’s Poirot starring David Suchet as Hercule Poirot, first aired in the UK on Christmas 1994. The BBC has produced it twice for radio with it first being broadcast on Christmas Eve 1975 with John Moffatt as Hercule Poirot. A second production was broadcast on Christmas Eve 1986 featuring Peter Sallis as Poirot.
(11) TODAY’S BIRTHDAYS.
[Compiled by Cat Eldridge.]
- Born December 19, 1902 — Sir Ralph Richardson. God in Time Bandits but also Earl of Greystoke in Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord of the Apes (which gets a remarkably great rating at Rotten Tomatoes in my opinion) and Chief Rabbit in Watership Down. Also the Head Librarian in Rollerball which I’ll admit I’ve never seen and have no desire to do so. And a caterpillar in Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland. And Satan in the Tales from the Crypt film. Oh, my he has had an interesting genre film career! (Died 1983.)
- Born December 19, 1952 — Linda Woolverton, 69. She’s the first woman to have written a Disney animated feature, Beauty and the Beast, which was the first animated film ever to be nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards. She also co-wrote The Lion King screenplay (along with Irene Mecchi and Jonathan Roberts).
- Born December 19, 1960 — Dave Hutchinson, 61. Best known for his Fractured Europe series which won a BSFA Award for the third novel, Europe in Winter. Europe at Midnight was nominated for a John W. Campbell Memorial Award and the Clarke as well. I’ve listened to the entire series and it’s quite fascinating. He’s got some other genre fiction as well but I’ve not delved into any of those yet.
- Born December 19, 1961 — Matthew Waterhouse, 60. He’s best known as Adric, companion to the Fourth and Fifth Doctors. He was the youngest actor in that role at the time. And yes, he too shows up in The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot. Theatre wise, he’s appeared in productions of Peter Pan, A Midsummer Night’s Dream (as Puck), The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and Hamlet. Oddly enough, he’s not, to my knowledge, done any Who work at Big Finish.
- Born December 19, 1969 — Kristy Swanson, 53. Her first starring genre film role was in Wes Craven’s Deadly Friend, but no doubt her best known genre role was as the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She also shows up in Alfred Hitchcock Presents, The Phantom, Not Quite Human and The Black Hole. For the record, I like her version of Buffy the Vampire Slayer!
- Born December 19, 1972 — Alyssa Milano, 49. Phoebe Halliwell in the long running original Charmed series. Other genre appearances include on Outer Limits, the second Fantasy Island series, Embrace of the Vampire, Double Dragon, the Young Justice animated series as the voice of Poison Ivy and more voice work in DC’s The Spectre excellent animated short as a spoiled rich young thing with a murderous vent who comes to a most fitting and quite bloody end.
- Born December 19, 1975 — Brandon Sanderson, 46. He is best known for the Cosmere universe, in which most of his fantasy novels, the Mistborn series and The Stormlight Archive, which was nominatedfor a Best Series Hugo at Worldcon 76, are set. He finished Jordan’s Wheel of Time series. He’s got several Hugos, both at LoneStarCon 3 for his “The Emperor’s Soul” novella and also for a Best Related Work Hugo for Writing Excuses, Season Seven.
- Born December 19, 1979 — Robin Sloan, 42. Author of Mr. Penumbra’s 24-Hour Bookstore which definitely has fantasy elements in it and is a damn fine read. His second novel which he sent me to consider reviewing, Sourdough or, Lois and Her Adventures in the Underground Market, is also probably genre adjacent but is also weirdly about food as well. And he’s a really nice person.
(12) COMICS SECTION.
- Bizarro has a new variety of humor.
- Frank and Ernest takes a rare astronomical turn.
- Pearls Before Swine explains how to write great literature. Hint: Rat thinks genre fiction is more literary.
(13) YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Edd Lai is the guy – “Guy Creates Terrifying Comics That Don’t End as You’d Expect” at Pupperish.
Over the last decade or so there has been a good selection of web comics that tell some brilliant stories in a variety of different art styles. From Shen to Yehuda Devir, these brilliant comics have gained a bunch of recognition. One artist named Edd Lai has made some uplifting comics that set themselves up as horror comics and surprise you with their endings. Here are a selection of these brilliant comics. Let’s give them the recognition they deserve.
(14) WHERE IS IT? We’ve heard of unwritten codes – now Marvel gives us non-written codes. So to speak: “Marvel Comics Overhauls Digital Copy Redemption Program” at CBR.com.
Readers were taken aback this week when Marvel’s new releases did not include the traditional stickers in them that can be removed to reveal a special code that can be used to redeem a digital copy of the issue online using the Marvel Comics app. When someone inquired with Marvel as to whether it was simply a printing error, a Marvel representative revealed that it was not.
The representative explained, “Hi, Chris. It’s not a misprint, but a process update. Please follow the instructions on that code page, they will tell you step-by-step how to get codes for your comics, and any other details you need to know. Thanks!”
…If customers just have to go through a different system to get the same digital copies, this is not that significant, but fans are naturally wondering whether this is the first step towards once again stopping the digital redemption program.
(15) WITHOUT LIMITS. James Davis Nicoll tells Tor.com readers about “5 Stories in Which Great Power Is Not Always Used Responsibly”.
Imagine, if you will, that fate has imbued you with extraordinary power. Would you use that power responsibly? Would you even know what “responsibly” means? It’s easy to set out with the best of intentions, only to discover too late one has fallen into profound error. Consider these five novels.
(16) TIMELESS. [Item by Hampus Eckerman.] Not sure why this movie about a man travelling in time to celebrate Christmas in the year 2020 is listed as a Comedy. A tragedy seems more fitting. IMDb listing for the Hallmark Channel’s A Timeless Christmas.
Charles Whitley travels from 1903 to 2020 where he meets Megan Turner and experiences a 21st Century Christmas.
(17) TOP DOLLAR. An Edward Gorey illustration for a Frank Belknap Long sff collection set an auction record. Goreyana has the story: “A New Record for Gorey Art at Auction”.
…This was followed shortly thereafter by a new record auction price for original artwork by Edward Gorey – $27,500.00 (hammer price plus buyer’s premium) for a 1964 pen & ink book cover design for The Dark Beasts, a paperback collection of stories by Frank Belknap Long (this piece has not been added to my collection)….
(18) LOAD THE CANON. StarWars.com tells comics fans to mark the date: “Marvel’s Han Solo & Chewbacca Series Coming March 2022”.
The galaxy’s greatest smuggler and his Wookiee co-pilot are taking on a new job: starring in their own comic.
Han Solo & Chewbacca, a new series from Marvel, will launch in March 2022, StarWars.com can exclusively reveal. Written by Marc Guggenheim and pencilled by David Messina, the monthly comic follows Han and Chewie a few years before the events of Star Wars: A New Hope, as the duo teams up with Greedo — in better times, apparently — on a heist for Jabba the Hutt….
The comic’s writer does a Q&A in the post:
…StarWars.com: And Chewie?
Marc Guggenheim: Chewbacca’s been alive hundreds of years longer than Han. He tries to offer Han the benefit of his experience, to offer a more evolved perspective on things, but Han usually goes his own way. And the thing is, Chewie is just fine with that. He’s good to go with the flow and let Han call the shots because he knows that, no matter what, Han’s got his back. Chewie’s an interesting character to write, obviously, because he only speaks Shyriiwook, so a lot of this I have to get out by dint of the circumstances Han and Chewie find themselves in, as well as Han’s reactions to what Chewie is saying.
I’m gonna be doing a future issue exclusively from Chewbacca’s point of view, so that should be a lot of fun. Hopefully, we can get into Chewie’s head in a way we never have seen before….
(19) STARSHIP TITANIC. Michael Palin’s Starship Titanic is available to listen to at BBC Radio 4 beginning today. It will be online for another 29 days.
Michael Palin stars in an exclusive adaptation of Terry Jones’s comic novel. A tale of interstellar skulduggery, romance and unhinged robots based in Douglas Adams’s universe.
Far off in the centre of one of the less well-chartered quadrants of the universe, a vast civilisation is preparing to launch the most technologically advanced starship ever – Starship Titanic While the galaxy’s media looks on, it unfortunately undergoes SMEF (Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure) and disappears. Leovinus, the designer of the ship, uncovers shoddy workmanship, poor cybernetics and a series of increasingly eccentric robots. The owners, Scraliontis and Brobostigan, were intent on destroying the ship and claiming the insurance.
Meanwhile in Oxfordshire, four humans are inspecting a property they intend buying, only to see it crushed under the re-materialising Starship. This disaster is swiftly followed by an invitation from an over-attentive robot to come aboard, and Lucy, Dan and Nettie are catapulted into a series of increasingly bizarre encounters.
Stylistically emulating the work of the great Douglas Adams in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the late Terry Jones weaves a fabulously mad and comic tale, adapted by Ian Billings and directed by Dirk Maggs, who also directed the last four editions of the Hitchhiker’s sagas.
VIDEO OF THE DAY. [Item by Martin Morse Wooster.] Last night’s Saturday Night Live was mostly repeats because of Covid. They rebroadcast a 1991 holiday special on global warming featuring Tom Hanks as Dean Martin and Mike Myers as Carl Sagan. The news is that Isaac Asimov was a character, played by Phil Hartman (who arrives at the 5:00-minute mark). I thought George RR Martin was the only sf writer parodied on SNL, but Asimov was caricatured at least once.
[Thanks to JJ, John King Tarpinian, Andrew Porter, Sheila Addison, Dann, Nicholas Whyte, Andrew (not Werdna), Kevin Roche, SF Concatenation’s Jonathan Cowie, Michael Toman, Cat Eldridge, Mike Kennedy, and Martin Morse Wooster for some of these stories. Title credit belongs to File 770 contributing editor of the day Jim Janney.]
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If you’ve not seen Murder for Christmas with David Suchet as Hercule Poirot, do so when you can as it’s quite magnificent.
(7) Several people stopped me in the halls to read my buttons- I pointed them to Nancy Leibowitz’s website for their own button needs and desires.
I am no fan of Raytheon, but I also genuinely didn’t notice it at the time. I was a free drink to the wind, full of Hugo nerves, someone said “stand here, face here,” and took a photo, and then I went away again. They could have been sponsored by Torquemada and I likely wouldn’t have noticed.
Well, you’d probably have suspected that that wasn’t Torquemada, but a fan in costume. And who notice the carpet they’re walking on, beyond noticing that it’s red, right?
The Raytheon sponsorship was a middle finger to all the people terrorized by the weapons they make. I hope Discon donates an equivalent amount to a reputable fund for the refugees their sponsor helps create. And I hope everyone responsible for the decision goes through a process to understand how taking blood money like that is an embarrassiment to the whole FSF community.
(7) I had an orange tabby cat named G’Kar
Having Raytheon as a sponsor is bad ethically but also bad in it impacting the story of the awards.
This was an extremely challenging Worldcon to put on this year – the new hotel, new date, GoH being disinvited, the many changes in the committee, running both a live and virtual track, whatever happened with the Hugo room. I’m in awe that it all came together and happened fairly smoothly. Much praise to everyone involved.
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Edmund Schluessel: You feel that way. Your feeling does not dictate my response. I’m part of the sff community. I thought it was well-done to find a way to tap into corporate sponsorship money. As long as it’s not from Authors Services. But see, like you I have feelings about what sponsors should not be attached to the Worldcon.
I actually thought the protests would arise on the first day of DisCon III due to the presence of a ceremonial flag guard in military-style uniforms at Opening Ceremonies. But it didn’t. And come to think of it, fans didn’t criticize the presence of an actual Canadian military band unit on the stage at Winnipeg in 1994. There is a lot of science fiction about military situations, combat, war technology. There are any number of fans who have served in the military. Part of the sff community is going to think technology that helps their armed forces survive is a valuable thing.
Now if we shifted the discussion to the gun culture of the U.S. — I wouldn’t want to see the Worldcon bannering the National Rifle Association. I’d be pissed. And yet I know my opinion about that would also be rejected by some people in the sff community.
There is just something in your rhetoric that compels me to establish that there is room in discussion here for other views.
(2) CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS.
It’s literally democracy in action. Enough WSFS members felt strongly enough to nominate it that it got into the final ballot. But not enough members felt strongly enough to vote it to a win, so it didn’t.
We can have a separate discussion about what that category should be for, or how people felt to see it in the final ballot, or whether they thought it was worthy or not. Ultimately, enough WSFS members thought it sufficiently worthy that they nominated it.
Thank you, Mike.
(2) CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS. I agree with Pat Cadigan and I’m sorry it didn’t go under No Award. On the other paw, I don’t like the BRW category anyway, and IMHO it’s only getting worse.
(4) CAVALCADE OF FORMER CHAIRS. Nice video, but whoops, Dashoff’s mask was coming off his nose. Roche’s suit & tie combo were stunning!
(12) COMICS SECTION. Hahaha, all good ones!
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@Mike Glyer: Well said! I wasn’t familiar with Raytheon beyond “government contractor that does a lot of different things.” So I know a bit more now, but . . . still thinking. (Wasn’t Raytheon mentioned during Opening Ceremonies or even before?)
11) Sir Ralph Richardson also played the Boss in H.G. Wells’s Things to Come (1936; directed by William Cameron Menzies). His performance was based, despite Wells’s strictures against doing so, on Mussolini (which Richardson apparently pronounced Mew-so-lini). It’s a lively and enjoyable portrayal of a petty brigand elevated to undeserved power.
This is true but the US drone program is something more than that but something that exists in a more dubious zone between what defenders of the program might characterise as a preemptive action against terrorists but which is arguably more like an assassination program with very high civilian casualties and only tangentially related to the actual defence of the USA.
Raytheon Intelligence & Space (the unit specifically sponsoring the ceremony) is actively involved in the US military drone program https://www.raytheonintelligenceandspace.com/capabilities/products/mts and until recently in weapons sold to Saudi Arabia.
Raytheon drone surveillance technology is also being used by ICE and in surveillance of protests in the US.
Camestros, back a few years ago, I wrote a story around the idea of “one-shot, one-kill” mini-drones that could target individuals rather than entire buildings or weddings. A swarm of the little bastards could target single combatants, and save a lot of the embarrassing collateral damage.
But I was only able to submit the story to a few markets for a few months. I retired the story from submission when I read the DoD was working to develop something very similar (but with added facial recognition, so specific individuals could be targeted rather than anyone unlucky or careless enough to let a mini-drone get close).
(That “hunter-seeker” in DUNE may be closer than it’s comfortable to think.)
I only heard of the Raytheon sponsorship when they were mentioned at the beginning of the ceremony along with Google. I wasn’t familiar with the company either, though my Dad knew them mainly as a manufacturers of radar systems.
Quite a few Hugo finalists are angry, because we weren’t informed beforehand. One finalist is a Quaker and feels that any association with a weapons manufacturer violates his religious beliefs. Another works for a human rights organisation and doesn’t want her name linked with Raytheon.
Sponsorship is always a dicey issue. On the one hand, it brings in much needed money, on the other hand, the wrong sponsor can infuriate fans and participants and even lead to boycots. I’ve seen massive controversies erupt over sponsorships by far more innocuous companies (Kelloggs offering to sponsor a small literary magazine, a dodgy meat processer sponsoring a football club) than Raytheon, so it’s an issue where an organisation shoudl tread carefully.
I have to admit that I found the military honour guard at the opening ceremony a little strange, but chalked it up to “It’s Washington DC and the military is big there.” Also, those cadets looked snazzy in their uniforms and were clearly thrilled to be there, so why not?
Also, fictional militaries like Stormtroopers and the Royal Manticorean Navy are a common sight at cons.
8) Justin Carter is of course totally right. I second the motion from Edmund Schluessel. That a lot of SF is about abuses doesn’t mean that it is a good idea to let abusers sponsor the Hugo Awards.
Camestros Felapton: Would you say that the procedures airline passengers go through before being allowed on planes are meaningful, or “security theater” as some have accused. Because the threat from organizations that caused those screening procedures to be put in place ultimately relates to the government’s decision to attack the threat where the operations are mounted. But your opinion is such action is “only tangentially related to the actual defense of the USA.”
Hampus Eckerman: If you think every sff story that involves the military is about abuses, you have a much different impression of the genre than mine.
But wait! Jon Del Arroz condemns this “literal blood stain on the #hugoawards which is getting swept under the rug by big publishing” and calls out File 770 for an opinion. Because, you know, here’s another golden opportunity for him to get attention!
What makes the Raytheon thing even more infuriating is that a lot of Hugo finalists are now being harrassed on Twitter by the helicopter fan club, because we’re apparently all war criminals or something, because we did not stage an immediate boycot about something none of us knew about before the ceremony started.
Mike Glyer:
I think that every SF story that is about companies like human rights abuser Raytheon is about abusers.
I do not agree with Camestros. I don’t think the use of drones in warfare is even tangential about US security. It is about US supremacy. US doesn’t become more secure by randomly bombing civilians and weddings.
Y’know what, RSB has been awful almost every time I’ve noticed they exist, which the first few times also involved JJ reminding me who they are because they’re not very memorable or distinctive in their awful.
Meh to them. Meh thrice and thrice again.
Yemen Crisis Linked to Weapons Maker Raytheon’s Influence on US Foreign Policy.
(item number missing?) VIDEO OF THE DAY.
Other people who have written genre works who have been parodied on SNL include Newt Gingrich, Richard Dreyfuss, Woody Allen, William Shatner, Stephen King, George Lucas, Rod Serling, Edgar Allen Poe, and (depending on your feelings about Sidd Finch) George Plimpton.
Re: Sponsorship from someone you don’t like.
I’ve never understood the desire not to take money from someone you don’t like. If you take it, you can do something better with it than they would have.
@Meredith
They are awful and also clearly sour grapes for not being noticed/their favourite story not winning/whatever else is going on with that bunch.
Worldcon, new whitewasher of the murder of civilians:
“Raytheon’s profits boom alongside civilian deaths in Yemen
Company’s stock soars as bystanders are killed by Raytheon rockets”
https://www.salon.com/2018/06/27/raytheons-profits-boom-alongside-civilian-deaths-in-yemen_partner/
Hampus Eckerman: I think I must still be recovering from the trauma of Will Shetterly’s appearance in comments here a couple years ago, firing links right and left. Just dropping a link by itself isn’t a discussion. But do as you must.
Yes, that is exactly what I do.
He’s actually done quite a bit with them, though more Dark Shadows then Doctor Who. Some 5th Doctor stories since 2014 though.
The big problem is that he was very young when he was filming the TV show and his mature voice really doesn’t fit the character.
@Cora Buhlert
I was about to say “at least this time she isn’t using it as an opportunity to complain about that time she had an extremely silly take on fanfic and got criticised for it” but NO she IS. Wow.
It was sort of weird, honestly, because none of them really know who any of the people they’re talking about or to are, or what the Hugos are or how they work, or… really, anything fannish. But they’re all really sure it’s all very bad, and that all the people they hate for A, B and C reasons are all exactly the same people (and also that everyone knows what Raytheon is, which considering the lack of knowledge they’re displaying at every turn about everything else is quite something).
7) Actually, a comment to Andrew (not Werdna): Let all of us who like buttons sing a canticle for Lebovitz–at least, that’s how Nancy spelt her name when I was in A Golden APA with her many years ago. When I still went in for button-wearing, I had some good ones I’d purchased from her.
8) I won’t weigh in on Raytheon in particular. My take on corporate sponsorships in general is that fandom should avoid them. Must we sell advertising to non-genre firms? Remember that he who pays the piper, calls the tune.
Matthew Waterhouse has done quite a few Big Finish Dr Who releases as well as Dark Shadows, btw.
Meredith Moment: Adrian Tchaikovsky’s new book, Shards of Earth, available for 99p on Kindle. I’ve enjoyed everything I’ve read by him, though he seems to write faster than I can read them.
@ Mike Glyer from a previous scroll…
Voting statistics and Nominations report.
@Mike Glyer I never claimed to be dictating your response in any way. This is your blog, you can say whatever you like on it.
I was quite surprised when I, coming into the ballroom,seeing that Raytheon was a sponsor. ( Google was not a surprise).
Ok so how was the Raytheon sponsorship visible? Was their a banner or poster detailing it? Was it in the program guide? (Which I have not gotten to date.) Did they have a nifty little booth there to hawk their wares? (Being facetious there.) And did anyone know ahead of time about this sponsorship?
Now understand that I am not upset about it as money is money and otherwise I suspect that Discon may not have happened.
Sponsorships are not free money. They are money you take to endorse the brand that pays.
And yes, I do have problems with companies whose business model is “we’ll help you kill people better”. “We’ll help you find out what dissidents are saying and to whom” is also not pleasant, as is “We’ll help you torture people better”. This is not the same as a country’s military doing weapons research and development. Apart from pacifists (which I am not) few have problems with defending your own country, or your allies. I do have problems with selling a smorgasbord of dictators around the world the know-how and means to oppress their own people.
And then, of course, there is the problem of the USA, which is a separate one.
Raytheon is science fiction coming to life! At high velocity.
They had their logo on the backdrop of the “red carpet” photo stage. They had banners. And yes, they had a stand.
Pat Cadigan is absolutely right. How that piece was even eligible is beyond me.
They also had recruiting flyers.
I missed all that, to my shame…but when it came on screen, I saw..
(3) Just want to clarify. The photos are by Olav Rokne and Amanda Wakaruk. Her contribution to the photography is just as important as mine.
Hi, I don’t regularly post here, but I’m at least a tangential part of the Worldcon/SF community. I’ve been to a couple and have been a supporting member at least once. I also attended Clarion West.
I learned about the Raytheon thing through a popular Twitter acct that as far as I know has never posted or retweeted anything else even vaguely SF related. I can only speak for myself, but to me this cheapens the con. Perhaps even makes it a laughingstock. And judging by the Twitter reaction from folks that can’t tell a Hugo from a Nebula, maybe I’m not alone in that feeling.
I understand the need for funding, but the fact that I’m bothered enough to post here, when I hate wading into this sort of online mess, is perhaps an indication of what some other typically silent folks are feeling at the moment. Or maybe not, and it’s just the old hippie in me that was shaking in my chair with fury on Saturday night.
Anyway, just felt the need to vent a bit. Much love for this site and those who post here. Carry on.
@Jeanne (Sourdough) Jackson: Thanks for the correction on Nancy’s surname. Here’s the link to Nancy’s site, for those who are interested https://nancybuttons.com/
Bob Roehm says Pat Cadigan is absolutely right. How that piece was even eligible is beyond me.
Let me second that. I couldn’t figure out how it was eligible either. It really does not meet the criteria for a Best Related Work. Everything else here would’ve deserved to have won the Hugo but this pile of merde most decidedly did not. (Before getting offended, remember that my opinion is just that.)
Now listening to another Midnight Louie mystery, Cat in a Zebra Zoot Suit.
Ok, so will a detailed Worldcon financial report be forthcoming? It’d be interesting to know how much both Google and Raytheon actually paid in sponsorship. I’m assuming one is, because it is fandom and we don’t blackbox such things, do we?