(1) SO THIS HEINLEIN, IS HE ANY GOOD? View Sharon Lee’s acceptance speech for the 2025 Robert A. Heinlein Award in this YouTube video.
(2) FAIR PAY. Steve Davidson urges sff readers to commit to pay a fair price for short fiction in a post on Facebook. Davidson begins by telling what the market rates of the Thirties would translate to after factoring in 90 years’ worth of inflation. Then he makes this appeal —
…Authors need to LIVE in order to be able to write and, I’d venture to guess, authors who are not stressing over whether or not they’ll be living in their cars next month will write more and better than those who have no such concerns.
To put a finer point on it: magazines would have to pay a word rate of 67 cents per word if the sale of that one short story is to have the same economic power today as $150 bucks did back in 1930.
On the other hand….
I’m betting that readers actually DO value authors and their works (well, at least those readers who read anyways). And I’m betting that they are willing to step up IF they’re given the opportunity. Oh, maybe not quite yet to covering sixty-seven cents per word, but certainly more than 8 cents per word.
I think the evidence is all around us that they are. I mean – go look at what a paperback costs these days! Me, I choke whenever I see the cover price because my baseline is what it cost me to buy those first Heinlein novels from the Bookmobile back in 1968 – 45 cents to 60 cents. Those same books now go for $13 – or more!
Anyway, the point is this:
We KNOW you all are willing to pay something close to what modern science fiction is actually worth, because you’re already doing it everyday when you plunk down ten bucks for an ebook or fifteen bucks for a paperback (or forty+ bucks for a hardback).
Now all you have to do is extend that same calculus, that same perceptual handwavium when it comes to magazine issues and their close cousin companions, theme anthologies….
(3) LOCUS FUNDRAISER LOOKS TO FINISH STRONG. The “Locus Mag: Science Fiction, Fantasy, Horror 2025” appeal at Indiegogo has four days to go. It had raised $44,671 when I checked this afternoon. Among reasons for you to click over, the Indiegogo paid includes links to videos of Connie Willis, Daniel Abraham, and Tobi Ogundrian reading from their work.

We are incredibly grateful for every penny donated and we’ll put it all to good use, but this is a moment to be honest about the urgency of our fundraiser. We’re just 4 days from the close of this fundraiser and we haven’t raised even half of the money we need to keep Locus running.
Being an indie non-profit press, we’ve been running on a skeleton crew for years. A larger budget means paying writers and artists a better rate, adding more short fiction and long form reviewers to cover all the amazing stories that are being written, and enough budget to cover all the amazing events out there and to stay connected with the community. Please help keep Locus alive, as the independent voice of the field and the guide to the world’s imagination!
If we don’t reach our funding goals, we will have to contract even further – you’ve seen your favorite magazines and newspapers shrink or disappear… There’s no part of what Locus does that we can imagine giving it up, reviews, interviews, cons, obits, the Locus Awards, the recommended lists – remembering people, pushing the news out, evening out the playing field. We don’t want to give any of it up. And we want to get back to a full schedule of writing workshops, reach more people on different platforms about our amazing genre, host readings… so much more.
We’re particularly concerned about the loss of short fiction reviews. Locus is one of the only venues that reviews short stories and makes a concerted effort to cover the small and independent press. Locus wants to help level the playing field for emerging writers and everyone in general. Without those efforts it feels like the only SFF writers getting attention out there are NYT bestsellers…
(4) APPEALS COURT SAYS LIBRARY COLLECTION DECISIONS ARE GOVERNMENT SPEECH. “Full Court of Appeals Reverses Previous Rulings, Supports Texas Library’s Book Removals” at Publishers Lunch (behind a paywall).
A full en banc ruling from the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned both a lower-court decision and a Court of Appeals ruling that had found a Texas library’s removal of books was a violation of the First Amendment, in a 10-7 decision.
Last year, a regular three-person Court of Appeals panel ruled that the Llano County Library could not remove books based on their content, writing that, “Government actors may not remove books from a public library with the intent to deprive patrons of access to ideas with which they disagree.” The titles at issue included books about sexuality and racism, and “butt and fart books.” Eight of the original 17 removed titles were returned to the library.
Now, the court reversed that preliminary injunction and dismissed the free speech claims of the plaintiffs—seven library patrons.
In the decision, Judge Stuart Kyle Duncan writes that the right to receive information from “tax-payer funded library books” is not protected by the First Amendment.
“That is a relief, because trying to apply it would be a nightmare,” the decision continues. “How would judges decide when removing a book is forbidden? No one in this case—not plaintiffs, nor the district court, nor the panel—can agree on a standard. May a library remove a book because it dislikes its ideas? Because it finds the book vulgar? Sexist? Inaccurate? Outdated? Poorly written? Heaven knows.”
The decision also states that “a library’s collection decisions are government speech and therefore not subject to Free Speech challenge.” Judge Duncan asserts that libraries have always made decisions about what books to shelve, just as government-funded museums decide on which paintings to include.
“That is what it means to be a library—to make judgments about which books are worth reading and which are not, which ideas belong on the shelves and which do not.
“If you doubt that, next time you visit the library ask the librarian to direct you to the Holocaust Denial Section.”…
(5) LETTING THE DOGS IN. [Item by Daniel Dern.] In chatting with one of the (local) librarians about some catalog quirks (mentioning my not-yet-replicated search within WorldCat/OCLC showing a library/book location of “outer space”), they noted that the CountWay library in the (Harvard) medical center area had a dog in their catalog — a “library” dog, e.g., for “Read with a Dog,” “schedule cuddle time”…
I haven’t (yet) found actual catalog entries, but (as I already knew), “library dogs” are indeed a Real Thing, e.g., Therapy Pets | Countway Library (harvard.edu)
For many Filers, this, of course, immediately brings to mind the classic Eric Frank Russell story, “Allamagoosa” (here’s a Baen link to the story.)

(6) ORSON WELLES HELPS SELL A BOOK. A Deep Look by Dave Hook looks at another 1949 sf collection: “’Invasion from Mars: Interplanetary Stories’, Orson Welles ‘editor’, 1949 Dell (SFE says ghost editor was Don Ward)”
The Short: I read Invasion from Mars: Interplanetary Stories, Orson Welles “editor”, 1949 Dell (there is controversy about the actual editor). Including the 1938 “Invasion from Mars: A Radio Adaption” radio play adaptation, it includes ten stories and an Introduction. My favorite story is the well reprinted and superlative Ray Bradbury story “The Million Year Picnic“, a Martian Chronicles short story, Planet Stories Summer 1946. My overall average rating of the stories was 3.76/5, or “Very good”. I have mixed feelings about recommending it, see below. You can find links to the stories here.
(7) TODAY’S BIRTHDAY.
[Written by Paul Weimer.]
May 27, 1911 — Vincent Price. (Died 1993.)
By Paul Weimer: Vincent Price. My first voice and face of horror. But especially, his voice.
I’ve mentioned WPIX many times in these birthday reminiscences and in comments at File 770. And so it was on NY’s movie station that I first encountered the work of Vincent Price. It was one of the Dr. Phibes movies, gory, weird and a lot of fun. That voice was unmistakable. Imagine my surprise when the very different looking Dr. Egghead (played by Price) showed up in an episode of the 60’s Batman cartoon. Although Egghead and Phibes couldn’t be more different, the voice was what keyed me, even with my amusia, that the same actor was at work here. That oily, horror fueled voice. He was the voice of terror, of nightmares, of the dark descent.
And that’s kind of how I kept running into him, by accident, again and again. For a while it seemed I could not escape the Master of Horror. Oh, here he is in a movie based on the “Pit and the Pendulum”. How very droll. Oh, and here he has shown up randomly on an episode of Columbo. Oops, here he is again in a Roger Corman horror film. All with That Voice. Although I still think the Jeff Goldblum version is better, the haunting image of his version of The Fly, where a part of him is trapped in a fly’s body, caught in a web, with a spider coming to eat him, is enough to give me the chills.
Even with all of his other work, again and again, what Price comes down to is the voice of horror. And so I ask you, who else could have been the narrator voice for the music video Thriller?

(8) TODAY’S BIRTHDAY, TOO.
[Written by Paul Weimer.]
May 27, 1934 — Harlan Ellison. (Died 2018.)
By Paul Weimer: Harlan Ellison. No trademark symbols, if he wants to come back from the dead and harangue me, he’s welcome to do so.
To talk about him as a broken step will be taken as read, it turns out he did behave very badly indeed, and that mars his reputation. Not being ever to finish the Last Dangerous Visions is another stain on his record, too. He seems to have forgotten his own maxims and advice on that one. He was a writer’s writer and an editor’s editor, and while he had the juice for the first Last Dangerous Visions, he never could see through to the last.
My older brother had plenty of collections of his stories, so his stories, both genre and only near-SF was an early part of my reading. Included in those collections were both volumes of The Glass Teat, so along with lots of Ellison stories, I also got a healthy dose of his film and television criticism, and his unyielding personality. I may have never gotten to meet him personally, but his ferocious reputation by his writing was enough. When Heinlein has him show up in the end of The Number of the Beast as simply “Harlan”, I had read enough to know what Heinlein meant with that one word.
Three stories of his always come to my mind and you can guess them. “’Repent, Harlequin!’ Said the Ticktockman” which for even though the titular Harlequin is captured and his rebellion ended, is still a story of hope, because his spirit of chaos cannot and will not be permanently stilled. “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream”, one of the most ultimate horror stories, with four people and a deranged computer at the end of the world. And, “Paladin of the Lost Hour” which is the best “Rage against the dying of the light” story I’ve ever read. When he wasn’t a raging a-hole, Harlan Ellison could and did write.

(9) COMICS SECTION.
- Dinosaur Comics discusses resolutions.
- Fowl Language knows facts about stars.
- Non Sequitur is surprised to meet the author.
- Pardon My Planet indulges in a false equivalence about pro wrestling.
- Strange Brew witnesses a timely departure.
- The Argyle Sweater points out the disadvantage of cowl hair.
- Wumo tries a line that fails.
(10) DEADPOOL/BATMAN CROSSOVER. Wade Wilson has been hired for a job in Gotham City, but will the World’s Greatest Detective help him or destroy him? Entertainment Weekly today revealed Marvel’s Merc with a Mouth will meet DC’s Dark Knight this September in Marvel/DC: Deadpool/Batman #1, the first of two crossovers between Marvel and DC more than twenty years in the making. It will be followed by DC’s Batman/Deadpool #1 in November.
Deadpool/Batman #1 will be written by prolific Spider-Man comics writer and co-writer for Marvel Studios’ Deadpool & Wolverine Zeb Wells and drawn by industry superstar Greg Capullo, an artist with an incredible legacy at both legendary comic book companies, with influential work on Batman and X-Men titles.
“After writing Amazing Spider-Man for 60 issues, I told Marvel I needed a break. Marvel told me I could do that or I could write a comic starring Deadpool and Batman with the best Batman artist of our generation. I no longer needed a break,” Wells shared with EW. “In Batman we’ve found someone who has even less time for Deadpool’s antics than Wolverine, but a city-wide threat from the Joker makes strange bedfellows (literally, if Deadpool had his way). It’s been a blast letting Deadpool loose in Gotham City and watching what happens.”
“Am I dreaming? This crossover is likely to be the high point of my career…and, I’ve had a great career,” Capullo added. “Some of my earliest work (many years ago) was on X-Force, so Deadpool and I go way back. More recently, I spent 10-plus years drawing Batman at DC. The idea that I get to do a crossover event with Deadpool and Batman…If I am dreaming, please don’t wake me!”
Check out Capullo’s main cover and stay tuned for more news about Deadpool/Batman #1 in the weeks ahead.

(11) WB WHACKS SCREENING OF SCHUMACHER CUT. “Studio Blocks Screening of Controversial Batman Forever Director’s Cut” reports CBR.com.
The fabled Schumacher cut of Batman Forever has hit a major snag as Warner Bros. has decided to scrap a planned screening of the hotly anticipated film.
A screening of the Schumacher cut was supposed to take place at Cinefile Video in Santa Monica, California. But according to The AV Club, the event was canceled following a legal request from Warner Bros. “Our planned screening of Batman Forever has been canceled,” the store said in an email to its members. “This follows a legal request from Warner Bros. regarding the rights to the version of the film we intended to show. While this was a free, members-only event meant to celebrate a unique piece of film history, we respect the rights of studios and creators, and have chosen to withdraw the event accordingly.”
The news came as a major blow for Batman fans as the Schumacher cut has long been considered a Holy Grail of sorts….

(12) FIRST OF THE LAST OF US. [Item by Steven French.] “The Last of Us science adviser: COVID changed our appetite for zombies” learned Nature.
The year was 2013, and the release of a hotly anticipated zombie-apocalypse video game was on the horizon.
The game, called The Last of Us, invited players to explore what then seemed a fanciful scenario: a world devastated by a pandemic in which a pathogen kills millions of people.
Unlike in many apocalypse fictions, the pathogen responsible wasn’t a bacterium or a virus, but a fungus called Cordyceps that infects humans and takes over their brains.
The writers at game studio Naughty Dog, based in Santa Monica, California, were inspired by real fungi — particularly Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, known as the zombie-ant fungus. The fungus infects insects and releases chemicals into the animals’ brains to change their behaviour. Ahead of the game’s release, Naughty Dog turned to scientists, including behavioural ecologist David Hughes, a specialist in zombie-ant fungi (he named one after his wife), to field questions from the media about the fungal and pandemic science that inspired the story. Hughes, who is at the Pennsylvania State University in University Park, has since moved to studying climate change and food security….
(13) BALTICON SUNDAY SHORT SCIENCE FICTION FILM FESTIVAL 2025 WINNERS. [Report by lance oszko.] Audience scores were from 0 to 5, with sum of values divided by number of votes.
Best Live Action
- Stephen King’s The Reach (2024) Italy Luca Caserta 167 points in 41 votes cast = 4.0731 *
Best Animation
- Dad in the Echo (2023) China Jacky Heng SUN 315 points in 82 votes cast = 3.8414 *
Scores of all entries:
- An Old Friend 2024 USA Nuk Suwanchote 198 Points in 57 Votes cast = 3.4736.
- Akashic Spheres 2021 USA James Scott 150 points in 69 votes cast =2.1739
- Invasion ’53 2024 Maryland Danielle Weinberg 304 points in 77 votes cast = 3.9480
- Zerk 2024 Maryland Theo Jack-Monroe 193 points in 69 votes cast = 2.7971
- Dad in the Echo 2023 China Jacky Heng SUN 315 points in 82 votes cast = 3.8414 * Best Animation
- Eunice 2018 UK Eric Garro 240 points in 74 votes cast = 3.2432 * Science History Discovery of Greenhouse Gasses.
- M.T. Nestor 2023 USA John Schlag 250 points in 70 votes cast = 3.5714
- The Hairdo 2024 UK Catherine Ruby Yeats 205 points in 73 votes cast = 2.8082
- Fire of God 2024 Belgium Yannick Mourcia 106 points in 40 votes cast = 2.6500
- Frederic Brown’s The Hobbyist 2016 USA George Vatistas 161 points in 46 votes cast = 3.5000
- Battle of LA 2024 USA Patrick Pizzolorusso 137 points in 46 votes cast = 2.9782
- Forever 2018 France Donia Summer 115 points in 47 votes cast = 2.4468
- Under Siege 2025 Greece Nikos Nikitoglou 107 points in 47 votes cast = 2.2765
- Stephen King’s The Reach 2024 Italy Luca Caserta 167 points in 41 votes cast = 4.0731 * Best Live Action
- The Faun of Healwood The Edge 2023 France Stephane Artus 116 points in 39 votes cast = 2.9743
- In The Walls 2023 Argentina Ramsés Tuzzio 63 points in 32 votes cast = 1.9687 (continuing trend of low scoring Horror)
*** last 3 had technical error in missing subtitle/captioning.
- Leïla et Les Fantômes 2023 France Chiraz Chouchane 41 points in 19 votes cast = 2.1578
- Alcalyne 2022 France MICHAËL PROENÇA 41 points in 24 votes cast = 1.7083 * Lowest Score.
- Howard Waldrop’s Mary Margaret Road Grader 2024 USA Steven Paul Judd 110 points in 30 votes cast = 3.6666.
(14) THEY KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES. “New evidence suggests our solar system has nine planets again” – Earth.com discusses a new candidate for number nine.
…Searching the far reaches
Researchers at a university in Taiwan believe a Neptune-sized object could be wandering roughly 46.5 to 65.1 billion miles from the sun.
Their fresh findings are based on two deep infrared surveys taken more than two decades apart, with equipment sensitive enough to detect a faint planetary glow.
Infrared data from 1983 and 2006 offered a rare chance to see if something moved slightly between observations.
A possible candidate popped up, and the group thinks it might take 10,000 to 20,000 years to orbit the sun….
…Researchers estimate that if this object exists, it could weigh between seven and seventeen times as much as Earth. That puts it in the ice giant category, similar to Uranus or Neptune, rather than a rocky planet like Earth or Mars….
(15) 48 CHALLENGE 2025. [Item by SF Concatenation’s Jonathan Cowie.] Sci-Fi London Film Fest has just posted its latest 48-hour film challenge’s 10 finalists for 2025.
This challenge is where amateur film makers are given a line of script and told to include a particular prop (it could be anything from a top hat to a candle stick) and then they are given two days to complete a short SF film.
You can view the finalist shorts at the link.
Meanwhile, this year’s Fest runs June 19– 22, 2025 at the Picture House in Finsbury Park (just north of central London).
(16) ESA BLUE DANUBE BROADCAST TO SPACE, [Item by SF Concatenation’s Jonathan Cowie.] To mark ESA’s 50th anniversary, ESA’s Cebreros station will broadcast “The Blue Danube” to space on Saturday, May 31, 2025.
The Cebreros station has been used to communicate with deep space missions including: BepiColombo, Euclid, Juice, Hera, Rosetta, Mars Express and NASA’s Perseverance rover.
The Blue Danube was famously (for us SF buffs) in 2001: A Space Odyssey.
The Cebreros station can, in theory, communicate with current-technology deep-space probes up to 1/3 light years away. However, it could communicate further with bigger dishes than those aboard current deep space probes and so in theory anyone listening around nearby stars should pick the microwave (S-band) broadcast up.
Details here: “European Space Agency will beam the famous ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ waltz out into the cosmos” in BBC Sky at Night Magazine.
The European Space Agency is planning to beam Johann Strauss’s ‘Blue Danube’ waltz out into the cosmos to celebrate a series of key anniversaries in the history of spaceflight.
2025 marks the 50th anniversary of the European Space Agency and its ‘Estrack’ satellite tracking network.
It also marks the 20th anniversary of its ‘Cebreros’ space antenna and, coincidentally, the 200th birthday of Johann Strauss II himself, composer of the Blue Danube.
And a reminder of the 2001: A Space Odyssey clip:
[Thanks to Steven French, Kathy Sullivan, Teddy Harvia, Daniel Dern, lance oszko, Paul Weimer, Mike Kennedy, Andrew Porter, John King Tarpinian, Chris Barkley, Cat Eldridge, SF Concatenation’s Jonathan Cowie, and Mark Roth-Whitworth for some of these stories. Title credit belongs to File 770 contributing editor of the day Daniel Dern.]
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(7) – aaaah, yes; my first Vincent Price film was The Abominable Dr Phibes, around 1971, at a drive-in with my best friend and his family: a double feature with Yog Monster from Space (which was, to be honest, really bad). To me, though, the iconic Price voice moment is on Alice Cooper’s Welcome to My Nightmare album, where he provides the spoken-word introduction to the song “The Black Widow.”
(8) “I am a great soft jelly thing,
I cannot talk or shout or sing,
I can’t eat candy or ice cream;
I have no mouth and I must scream.”
Oh, and…does anyone want to try The Cat in the Hat as by Harlan?
(2) The real question is what’s the actual pay rate/hour. I suspect well under minimum wage.
(4) Fraud. No, it’s not “government speech”.
(5) Oh, come on, they’re supposed to have a cat there.
Birthday: I did meet, and talk privately, once with Harlan. The best line I had for him was “World’s Oldest Angry Young Man”. And good… that time I met him was at a con that turned out to be a one-shot, in NYC in ’76. He had come back in the evening, at fan’s request, to finish what he’d been talking about that afternoon. What he partly gave us was the intro to the collection of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. The room, packed, was dead silent, except for several of us, crying.
(14) You mean ten. I have been told by Real Astronomers they ignore that vote (taken after 90% of the attendees had left), and Pluto is a planet.
(16) Speaking of crying… Damn it, I want that future back, not 1934.
(4) The 5th Circuit is about as conservative as courts in the US can get. It’s the home of every right-wing judge that SCOTUS loves: Kaczmaryk,.Ho, those guys. If it’s after 1965, they’re against it. (They’re not happy with anything in the century before that, except Plessy.)
Vincent Price: a nice set of photos here: https://www.tumblr.com/j0them0971/784748018077433856/happy-birthday-vincent
I’m afraid that, while I acknowledge his skill and importance, Harlan was one of those writers that I have never enjoyed, or even liked. Ray Bradbury is another. I know, I’m a heretic. I would never downplay their abilities. Bradbury has some beautiful language. I’ve just never been able to finish an Ellison or Bradbury story.
(1) Congratulations and well done, Sharon! Yes, that Heinlein guy did have something going for him.
(11) Anyone know why they don’t want anyone seeing it?
(4) It’s the Fifth Circuit, no surprises there.
(7) Price went from serious dramatic roles to horror, then to horror parodies, then to parodies of the parodies, and seemed to be having more fun every step of the way. Although I seem to recall that in the Dr Phibes movies, neither Phibes or his beautiful assistant ever speak. Roger Corman’s The Raven is possibly my favorite Price movie, if I had to pick a favorite.
(4) more harmful nonsense from the 5th.
Hilde and I got to see Vincent Price live in a stage performance of DELIGHTS AND DIVERSIONS, where he portrayed Oscar Wilde’s last days, to great effect, when the play’s touring company brought it to Grady Gammage auditorium at Arizona State University. Enjoyed his films, and his various appearance on talk shows and other programs, but seeing him live was a special treat.
I also saw Harlan in person a few times, at conventions and once at a talk he gave at ASU West, the branch campus about a mile from where we live. No major interactions with him. (He did call me an asshole once, though that’s hardly an uncommon mark of recognition from him.)
(7) My favorite Vincent Price cameo is in a movie where he doesn’t “appear” at all. The last spoken lines of “Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein” are a disembodied voice saying “Allow me to introduce myself. I’m the Invisible Man.” That’s Price.
8) -reads wikipedia entry- Holy cow! So how many times did Harlan get punched in the face?
@Gary McGrath: Just saw that film last year!
Number 5, “Letting the Dogs In” references Eric Frank Russell’s “Allamagoosa,” with a link. But might “Into Your Tent I’ll Creep” be more apt? Alas, it doesn’t seem to be online.
@mark
“(4) No, it’s not “government speech”.”
If not government speech, whose speech is it?
@ bill: Short answer: It’s not speech in the usual sense. It belongs to the categories of organizational regulation and protocols. The decision is engaged in a semantic shell game.
It’s not “government speech” in the sense of conveying a message that reflects the government’s position, but selecting books is obviously related to speech in the legal sense. It’s a messy area. It would be wrong for libraries to categorically exclude all books expressing a certain point of view; even Mein Kampf is appropriate for inclusion in a library. But libraries do have to select and curate their materials, and some works will and should get higher priority than others. At what point, though, does it turn into promoting certain ideas and excluding others? Is there a point where it should?
4
This decision is not even wrong.
8
Well Harlan was important to me in my youth. My favorite of his many stories is “Catman.” His passion was infectious. I probably wrote overheated essays under his influence but I was never a fan of his techniques. They seemed to be special pleading for his own brilliance. I never felt that brilliant. A pity about the man, but the stories remain readable. Not everyone can live up to their ideals.
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This is an expected result, I think. There have been suggestions for decades. Neat. At that distance, once Sol gets old enough, this planet might experience a nice long Summer and be an abode for life. If you’re still kicking then, check it out! It could be marvelous.
(11) The Batman Not at the Edge Of Forever 🙂
On one hand, I acknowledge that Bat4Ever has its critics and criticisms, and problems. On another hand, it sure has bits (bats?) and pieces I like/love. And on that third, gripping hand, it nails the spirit of the pre-grim (pre-Dark?) Batman whacky, campy, bright-lit era, particularly the baddies.
I would like to see the Schumacher cut. Ah well.
7) Paul, the wording of your mention of the 1958 the Fly reads like you are saying the Price was the scientist who exchanges body parts with the titular creature. In fact, that character was played by Al Hedison; Price played his brother, who has the pleasure of being in the film’s creepiest scene, right at the end.
@Russell Letson
“@ bill: Short answer: It’s not speech in the usual sense. ”
“Speech” in the usual sense isn’t relevant here, because “government speech” is a term of legal art and has a specific meaning separate from the terms it is comprised of, “government” and speech”. “Government speech” has existed as a legal concept and a part of accepted costitutional law for over 30 years.
@Gary McGath
“It’s not “government speech” in the sense of conveying a message that reflects the government’s position”
The opinion held just the opposite (and did so based on several previous decisions that stated the same thing): “a library expresses itself by deciding how to shape its collection. As one court put it: “With respect to the public library, the
government speaks through its selection of which books to put on the shelves
and which books to exclude.””
“It would be wrong for libraries to categorically exclude all books expressing a certain point of view;”
I don’t think so; there’s nothing wrong with a library purposefully not having Holocaust denial literature, or the publications of NAMBLA.
@Gary McGath–
If you want a simplistic checklist that will prevent any “mistakes,” sorry, no, it doesn’t exist because complex questions and problems typically can’t be answered that way.
Do you think it might be a good idea to have educated, trained, professional people doing the evaluation of books and collections? People who went into a profession no one goes into for the money, but because they care about access to information, quality collections that are balanced and useful to the whole body of users, who are trained to not let their personal views have excess impact on their evaluations and decisions?
People who–wild ‘n’ crazy idea, here–who are focused on doing their jobs properly and responsibly, for the benefit of the whole community, rather than being focused on the next election, and making their decisions in part based on what the political views of the current office holders at whatever level funds the library, but on what serves the needs of the community that uses or can use the library, including making the library accessible and friendly to all?
Including, but not limited to, red cap wearing MAGAs who think our master’s degrees probably left us sadly brainwashed. But also including the people MAGAs make very clear they disapprove of.
We are educated and trained in evaluating books and other information sources for factuality, usefulness, and accessibility for the intended audience. (That means most books intended for adults will be in the adult reading room, not in the children’s room. Though if there’s room for a teen collection, some of them will be there, too. Also, public libraries don’t typically collect pron.)
Public libraries typically have children’s librarians, specialists who have included children’s literature in their studies. School libraries typically have a librarian with a specialization in school library media,and sometimes in addition a bachelor’s degree in education.
Librarians are not in the public or school libraries to groom children. Honest to God. Which is part of why public and school librarians tend not to see young children’s books that are mostly fart jokes as “pornography.” They’re just books that young children find incredibly funny, and help them learn to regard reading as fun, not an unpleasant chore forced on them in school.
And, Gary? Have you noticed that it’s not us scary lefties who are circulating long lists of books we want banned because we don’t like their content or the people who wrote them? Seriously. Not even Mein Kampf. It might be a waste of space and funds in a tiny library with limited space and limited funds, but in larger libraries able to collect more broadly and/or deeply, it often has a place.
But so does Maus often have a place. And Marx’s Capital. And not because the librarians are extremist lefties. Or necessarily leftists at all. Not even always liberals. Yeah, we’re likely to come from backgrounds that value education, but that’s the filter, not political views.