Pixel Scroll 1/23/17 Scroll ‘Em Danno

(1) SOMETHING IN THE AIR. Ellen Cheeseman-Meyer interviews Lois McMaster Bujold at Tor.com: “Fanzines, Cover Art, and the Best Vorkosigan Planet: An Interview with Lois McMaster Bujold”. Everyone will have a favorite section – here’s mine.

ECM: You published a Star Trek fanzine in the 1960s, while the series was still on the air. It’s the fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek, so I can’t resist asking you about it. What was it like to be a fan writer in the 1960s?

LMB: It was a lonelier enterprise back then than it is now. I go into it a little in this recent interview.

Other than that, I expect it was like being a newbie writer at any time, all those pictures and feelings churning around in one’s head and latching on to whatever models one could find to try to figure out how to get them down on a page. Besides the professional fiction I was reading, my models included Devra Langsam’s very early ST fanzine Spockanalia, and Columbus, Ohio fan John Ayotte’s general zine Kallikanzaros. It was John who guided Lillian and me through the mechanics of producing a zine, everything from how to type stencils (ah, the smell of Corflu in the morning! and afternoon, and late into the night), where to go to get electrostencils produced, how to run off and collate the pages—John lent us the use of his mimeograph machine in his parents’ basement. (And I just now had to look up the name of that technology on the internet—I had forgotten and all I could think of was “ditto”, a predecessor which had a different smell entirely.)

Fan writing, at the time, was assumed to be writing more about SF and fandom, what people would use blogs to do today, than writing fanfiction. So an all-fiction zine seemed a novelty to some of our fellow fans in Columbus.

John Ayotte! There’s someone I haven’t heard of since I was a young fan.

(2) A GR8 NAME. It’s only fitting that the official Star Wars site be the ones who tell us: “The Official Title for Star Wars: Episode VIII Revealed”.

THE LAST JEDI is written and directed by Rian Johnson and produced by Kathleen Kennedy and Ram Bergman and executive produced by J.J. Abrams, Jason McGatlin, and Tom Karnowski.

STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI is scheduled for release December 15, 2017.

Last Jedi poster

(3) BUMPER CROP. The Razzie czars, explaining the extra nominees this year, said, “The crop of cinematic crap in 2016 was so extensive that this year’s 37th Annual Razzie Awards is expanding from 5 nominees to an unprecedented 6 contenders in each of its 9 Worst Achievement in Film categories.” Genre films stank up the shortlist, for example —


  • Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
  • Dirty Grandpa
  • Gods of Egypt
  • Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
  • Independence Day: Resurgence
  • Zoolander No. 2


  • Ben Affleck / Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
  • Gerard Butler / Gods of Egypt & London Has Fallen
  • Henry Cavill / Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
  • Robert  de Niro / Dirty Grandpa
  • Dinesh D’Souza [as Himself] Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
  • Ben Stiller / Zoolander No. 2


  • Megan Fox / Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows
  • Tyler Perry / BOO! A Medea Halloween
  • Julia Roberts / Mother’s Day
  • Becky Turner [as Hillary Clinton]  Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
  • Naomi Watts / Divergent Series: Allegiant & Shut-In
  • Shailene Woodley / Divergent Series: Allegiant

The “winners” will be announced February 25, the day before the Academy Awards.

(4) CLARKE ESTATE SUES. 2001: A Space Odyssey is one of the works recast as a “study guide” for elementary school readers. Publishers Weekly has the story: “PRH, S&S Sue Moppet Books’ KinderGuides for Infringement”.

Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster have joined with the estates of Ernest Hemingway, Truman Capote, Jack Kerouac and Arthur C. Clarke to file a lawsuit against Frederik Colting, Melissa Medina, and their publishing firm, Moppet Books, charging copyright infringement.

Filed January 19 in the Southern District of New York, the suit alleges that Moppet Books’ KinderGuides, a line of illustrated children’s adaptations that feature versions of The Old Man and the Sea, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, On the Road, and 2001: A Space Odyssey, with “willful copyright infringement of four acclaimed copyrighted classic novels.” The suit notes that PW wrote about the launch of the KinderGuides in August 2016.

The suit charges that the KinderGuides seek “to capitalize on the [classic] Novels’ enduring fame and popularity,” describing the titles as “a transparent attempt to recast their unauthorized derivatives as ‘study guides’ intended for the elementary school set.”

(5) ’69 IS DEVINE. Martin Morse Wooster uncovered a hidden gem. “That Nature profile of Sir Arthur C. Clarke linked to a 1969 New Yorker profile of Clarke by Jeremy Bernstein that  I haven’t seen before. (The New Yorker has been putting some of its older pieces online.) It’s called ‘Out of the Ego Chamber’ and is well worth breaking the paywall for. You learn how Clarke’s experiences in fandom in the 1930s and 1940s informed his fiction, how he wrote many books about the sea even though he never really learned to swim, and how a 16-year old doofus asked Clarke in 1968 to write a scenario for a short film for free in the hopes he would be paid back when the doofus ‘became famous.’”

However, it is only in the last few years—especially since he and Stanley Kubrick wrote “2001: A Space Odyssey”—that he has become widely known to the general public. He became even more widely known, of course, during the recent flight to the moon, when he served as one of the commentators assisting Walter Cronkite in his coverage of the event for the Columbia Broadcasting System. Cronkite has been a Clarke fan for many years, and Clarke has done a number of television broadcasts with him, beginning as far back as 1953. In following the Apollo 11 flight, Clarke made some dozen appearances. During an early one, Cronkite asked him if he would mind explaining the ending of “2001,” and Clarke answered that he didn’t think there was enough time—then or later. He went to Cape Kennedy with the C.B.S. team, and at the moment of the launch, as he told a friend on his return, he, like everyone around him, burst into tears. “I hadn’t cried for twenty years,” he said. “Right afterward, I happened to run into Eric Sevareid, and he was crying, too.” After the launch, Clarke returned with the rest of the C.B.S. crew to New York and spent most of the next several days in and out of the C.B.S. studios, watching the flight and, from time to time, going on camera. The actual landing on the moon was, in many ways, the fulfillment of a life’s dreaming and prophesying. “For me, it was as if time had stopped,” he said later.

(6) 2001 ON THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR. Sci-Fi writer-director-producer Marc Zicree went to Stan Lee’s Comikaze Convention for his Space Command panel and ran into 2001: A Space Odyssey star Keir Dullea, who shared a scene cut from the film — and re-enacted it!


  • January 23, 1957 — Machines at the Wham-O toy company roll out the first batch of their aerodynamic plastic discs–now known to millions of fans all over the world as Frisbees.


  • January 23, 1923 – Walter Miller, Jr., author of A Canticle for Leibowitz.
  • Born January 23, 1954 – Craig Miller, animation writer, and early leader of the Official Star Wars Fan Club.


  • Born January 22, 1906 – Robert E. Howard

(10) THEATER OF THE IMAGINATION. Turner Classic Radio hosts vast quantities of Golden Age shows, which evidently are free to listen to. Includes lots of superheroes (Superman, The Green Hornet) and suspense (Suspense, what else?).

(11) SEVENEVES? Mental Floss compiled a list of “86 Books Barack Obama has recommended during his presidency”, including the Harry Potter series, Seveneves, and The Three-Body Problem.

(12) SIGNERS OF THE TIMES. The Change.org petition to “Repeal California Assembly Bill 1570” (the new law about sale of autographed items) now has 1,612 signatures.

Nearly everyone in California is impacted by AB 1570, California’s new autograph bill, because it affects everyone with a signed item in their possession, whether it’s a painting passed down through generations, an autographed baseball, or a treasured book obtained at an author’s book signing. Under the new law, when a California consumer sells an autographed item worth $5 or more, the consumer’s name and address must be included on a Certificate of Authenticity. This requirement applies to anyone reselling the item as authentic, be it a bookseller, auction house, comic book dealer, antiques dealer, autograph dealer, art dealer, an estate sales company, or even a charity.

AB 1570 is fatally flawed and must be repealed with immediate effect. It is rife with unintended consequences that harm both consumers and small businesses. It has been condemned by newspaper editorial boards and the American Civil Liberties Union.

(13) EXPLORE SPACE IN THE DISCOMFORT OF YOUR OWN HOME. A BBC reporter speaks of the “lucky” people who have been to ISS, but discovers in just 48 hours that it’s not the least like fun and games: “My unhappy 48 hours as an astronaut”.

Yet, it is not always necessary to travel into space to experience what it is like living as astronauts do. It may come as a surprise to discover on Earth, dozens of people all over the world have spent months, and even over a year, living in specially built confined spaces that mimic life in space. These simulation pods are found in places like China, Hawaii and Russia,  giving researchers the ability to study the effects of long-term isolation and confinement on people in preparation for long-haul space travel.

While we can glean plenty of information from astronauts’ experiences in the ISS and its predecessors, the challenges faced by astronauts will change as space agencies set their sights on the Red Planet. A mission to Mars will mean spending approximately three years in space – six-to-eight months to travel there, several months on the surface, and six-to-eight months to return. The long-term nature of the trip is expected to pose several psychological challenges for those picked to make it

To find out what it might be like, for 48 hours, I tried to live just as astronauts do  – attempting to keep up with the schedule of crewmembers on the ISS. As it turns out, they have a very tightly packed workday. I woke up, drank coffee, ate not-so-great food directly from the bag, worked out, worked and repeated the pattern until the day was done. Oh, and I had to spit into a towel twice a day after brushing my teeth.

(14) NO. 1 SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE. Blastr lists “The top 11 composers who have created musical masterpieces for geeky properties”.

  1. Murray Gold

If you’re a Doctor Who fan, you know the music of Murray Gold. Gold has been the composer for the popular series ever since it returned to television in 2005. Composing for such distinguished Doctors as Christopher Eccleston to Peter Capaldi, he’s created some of the best themes and music in the series’ more than 50-year history. His unforgettable work includes “The Doctor’s Theme,” “Doomsday,” “This is Gallifrey: Our Childhood, Our Home,” and “I Am the Doctor.” His music has made us feel like we’re on other planets, in a different time period, and traveling through time and space in the TARDIS. Gold also created the themes for the spin-offs Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures.

Notable piece: “A Good Man? (Twelve’s Theme)” from Doctor Who

Out of all of Gold’s work, his theme for the current Doctor stands out from the rest. It’s like nothing we’ve heard before in the series and captures Capaldi’s Doctor perfectly, more so I think than a theme has fit any of the previous Doctors. Listening to it, you get a sense of mystery, danger, wonder, adventure and determination. There’s gravity to it as well as playfulness. Gold laces it all together into a complex, catchy piece that makes it hard not to picture everything the Doctor has been through, all he has done and all he will continue to do.

(15) FICKLE FINGERS. Atlas Obscura claims: “One Danger of Flashing the Peace Sign Could Be Stolen Fingerprints”. Cat Eldridge sent the link with a comment, “Brunner was right: the future indeed does arrive too soon and in the wrong order.”

Have you ever posed for a photo with your index and middle fingers raised, indicating your desire for world peace? Probably, since the sign has become shorthand for the sentiment after Vietnam War activists popularized it in the 1960s.

But researchers in Japan warned this week that those flashing their exposed fingertips were at risk of fingerprint theft, which in turn could be used for any number of things, like unlocking your iPhone.

Isao Echizen, a researcher at the National Institute of Informatics, said that he and his team were able to lift the fingerprints from someone’s fingers from a photo taken about nine feet away, according to Phys.org.

(16) MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN. Owning this shirt will give you an IQ bonus.


[Thanks to Andrew Porter, Martin Morse Wooster, Stephen Burridge, Steven H Silver, Arnie Fenner, JJ, Cat Eldridge, Chip Hitchcock, and John King Tarpinian for some of these stories. Title credit goes to File 770 contributing editor of the day Mark-kitteh.]

81 thoughts on “Pixel Scroll 1/23/17 Scroll ‘Em Danno

  1. I Thought Dept 1: I thought I’d written the scroll title, but I was a word off (“Tick ’em, Dan-o!”) and a space farthing short. I wish myself better luck next time.

    I Thought Dept 2: I thought the scene cut from 2001 that Dullea was going to recreate would turn out to be the long segment of them jogging in the centrifuge. Just jogging, and jogging, and jogging. And jogging.

    Also, I wrote another new Toon River epitaph over at New Pals, for those poetry lovers out there. Not a day without an achievement to crown it.

    Oh, yeah, and ticky. Thought you’d tricked me, eh? Tick that!

  2. Finally got to see “Hidden Figures”. Just as great as everyone said! I may buy the book instead of waiting the many months until my turn comes up at the library — though hopefully they’re buying a bunch more copies, now that the book is on the bestseller lists.

    I find it *hilarious* and appropriate that the WSFS basically decided: “if it has spaceships, it’s SF, even if it’s non-fiction. All your spaceships R belong to us, now and forever.” So “Hidden Figures” counts as an SF movie (probably for 2017), because SPACE SHIPS.

    But also: it’s a completely SFnal story, about the over-looked geniuses who help save the day with their brains. Mr Dr Science couldn’t come with us this time, but I may drag him out again, because: heroic FORTRAN programmer. How often does *that* happen?!

  3. I must admit that I rather enjoyed Zoolander 2, still get a chuckle out of “farm to table WiFi”.

  4. Doctor Science: I find it *hilarious* and appropriate that the WSFS basically decided: “if it has spaceships, it’s SF, even if it’s non-fiction.

    Has WSFS issued an opinion on this? Isn’t that something that the Hugo Admins do only when something has enough nominations to make the Final Ballot?

    According to the World Science Fiction Society Constitution:

    “3.3.7: Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form. Any theatrical feature or other production, with a complete running time of more than 90 minutes, in any medium of dramatized science fiction, fantasy or related subjects that has been publicly presented for the first time in its present dramatic form during the previous calendar year.”

    The Hugos have a decades-long history of considering non-fiction works to be a “related work” for the Best Dramatic Presentation category:
    1996 Finalist: Apollo 13
    1984 Finalist: The Right Stuff
    1981 Finalist: Cosmos: A Personal Voyage
    1970 Winner: News coverage of Apollo 11

  5. JJ:

    What I was referring to was the “related subjects” clause, and the decision of the membership — going back decades — that real spaceships are science fictional. The Stars Are Ours.

  6. “You learn how Clarke’s experiences in fandom in the 1930s and 1940s informed his fiction, how he wrote many books about the sea even though he never really learned to swim…”

    When I was taking my rescue diver certificate, I asked the dive master about his strangest experiences. He told me about the two japanese girls who went to a dive trip and, after having put on their SCUBA equipment, told thim that they didn’t know how to swim. They had managed to get their diving certificates in Japan without knowing how to swim!

    So he they threw down a line from the boat, carefully went down five meters, stayed there for 20 minutes and then went up along the rope again. The girls were happy, but he was a bit more skeptic towards the japanese training.

  7. @Hampus:

    Funny, I’d think swimming would be a basic, universally-taught skill on an island nation! I mean, earthquakes and hurricanes happen…

  8. Iphinome: And everyone quiets down and waits for the chance to get 200,005’th.

    Never mind that. I’m plotting for the 555,555th comment.

    At the rate we Filers have been going, I figure it will be sometime next month. 😉

  9. (15) well, one could flash the V sign with the fingers turned the other way round, but that has an unfortunate connotation, dating back to Agincourt.

  10. @Hampus

    I once met a couple who had come on a trip to Egypt to celebrate qualifying as Dive Masters. It was to be their first trip to the tropics. Actually it turned out, it was to be their first boat dives. Actually it turned out it was to be their first sea dives. Actually it turned out to be their first dives done anywhere other than the reservoir one can sometimes see near Heathrow airport, because every qualification they’d done to that point had been in exactly the same place.

    As far as I could tell they could swim.

  11. 14) – doesn’t mention Barry Gray. Enough said, I think.

    (For the uninitiated: composer for most of Gerry Anderson’s series, probably best known for the theme tune to Thunderbirds… but working with Anderson meant he had to compose a lot of stuff in a very wide range of styles; Gray rose to this challenge admirably. In my opinion, he’s a fine composer in the English light music tradition, maybe not up there with Edward Elgar or Benjamin Britten, but certainly a match for people like Eric “Dambusters March” Coates. I feel inclined, even, to toss out a link to Gray’s official site, here.)

  12. NickPheas: I once met a couple who had come on a trip to Egypt to celebrate qualifying as Dive Masters… it turned out to be their first dives done anywhere other than the reservoir

    Holy shit, I’d have been finding out their dive certification company and reporting them to BSAC and PADI. Those sorts of Dive Masters will be getting people killed. 😯

  13. 15) Yikes, it makes sense ,though. High resolution photos are eminently possible these days.

    Didn’t take look to conceptually come up with a way to fool biometric locking methods, eh? (although I am reminded of the eyes, and Minority Report)

  14. @JJ
    I assume that the (PADI) place that trained them was grooming them to lead dives in the same place they’d done all their training, and presumably did know like the backs of their hands. It would not have been possible to reach an equivalent BSAC grade without a lot more experience.

  15. NickPheas: It would not have been possible to reach an equivalent BSAC grade without a lot more experience.

    It’s not (at least officially) possible to become a PADI divemaster without a lot more experience, either. (No boat dives? No ocean dives? No way.) Which is why I say that the certification company needed to be reported, because no matter which institutes’s programme they were on, the company was seriously side-stepping the certification requirements, and was very likely going to get some students killed by these inexperienced “dive masters”.

  16. Re #1, the school I taught at in the aughts still had a working mimeo machine. We were encouraged to use it when possible because it was cheaper than the photocopier, per-page.

  17. @JJ fair enough. A way back though. I would have reported it had it been BSAC, since that’s the system I know.

  18. PADI needs 60 dives for dive master certification, including mapping up an open water site and organizing a search and recovery project and a deep dive. Yep, not much at all, but still shouldn’t be possible to do in a reservoir.

  19. Hello my baby,
    Hello my pixel,
    Hello my scrolltime file.

    Send me a tick by wire,
    Baby the blog’s on fire…

    *notices audience*


  20. It seems very appropriate to me that a Hugo might be awarded to something about a rocket. I mean, just look at the thing.

  21. Rev. Bob: Funny, I’d think swimming would be a basic, universally-taught skill on an island nation!

    That’s kind of like the tourist who was annoyed that their room at Disney world didn’t have an ocean view. There’s a lot of areas in Japan well out of sight of the sea, and swimming is the last thing you want to do in an earthquake or hurricane.

  22. If anyone has a library with back issues of the New Yorker, or if they’ve got other access to its archives via online or CDRom, then listed below are few more of the pieces the magazines has run on sf in its first 50 years:

    Buck Rogers success 22 Dec 1934
    an overview of sf mags – 13 feb 1943
    Interview w/John W Campbell – 25 aug 1945
    Report on a meeting of the Hydra club – 21 jan 1950
    An exhibition of sf 7 june 1958
    the Tolkien Society – 15 jan 1966
    on New Wave and Harlan Ellison – 16 sep 1967
    Gerald Jonas – major article on contemporary sf as literary genre – 29 july 1972
    the Sf bookshop in NYC- 31 dec 73
    a Heinlein interview – 1 july 74

  23. JohnFromGR on January 24, 2017 at 4:52 am said:
    (3) I hope this leads to all of D’Souza’s books being reclassified as fiction.

    I was rewatching old Louis Theroux documentaries over Christmas and spotted him reading a Dinesh D’Souza book in one of them. I may have boggled slightly.

  24. Didn’t those judges see “Suicide Squad?” Much worse than “Dawn of Justice.”

  25. still shouldn’t be possible to do in a reservoir.

    There are some reservoirs that are large enough to do those. Especially some of the ones in the U.S. (California has several that would be more than large enough for both deep diving and open-water work.)

  26. Didn’t those judges see “Suicide Squad?” Much worse than “Dawn of Justice.”

    I haven’t seen Suicide Squad yet (I’m currently hold #82 on our library’s 50 copies), but it’ll be hard to convince me that it’s worse than Dawn of Justice, which is the single worst film that I’ve ever paid money to see.

    Yes, I actually paid money to see it in a theater, even though I knew it was going to be bad. (I blame George Reeves. Ever since I watched him in The Adventures of Superman on TV in the 50’s, I’ve felt compelled to watch every Superman film in the theater when it comes out.) But I really didn’t this it was possible for it to be that bad!

  27. Im not a fan of Razzies – they tend to “honour” actors because they played in a bad movie, not necessary because they were bad themselves.

    “The Box is tickin´”

  28. I waited for Dawn of Justice on disc, so I saw a version allegedly better than the theater release, but I didn’t think it was that bad.

    Lex Luthor and Wonder Woman were both quite good, Superman was OK (when he wasn’t a dream) and Psychobat was an interesting addition to the DC canon.

  29. (14) No. 1 is no surprise. 2-11, however, are; In that not one of them is Basil freakin Poledouris. From blockbusters like Starship Troopers to b-films like Cherry 2000, quality TV (The Twilight Zone) and not so great TV (Misfits of Science) as well as the hardly classifiable (Flesh+Blood) he did plenty of genre work.

    But his epic and highly influential score to Conan The Barbarian alone should have propelled him high on this list.

  30. I saw DAWN OF JUSTICE on disc and thought it was a mess, being that it felt like it bits and pieces of several films jammed into one long narrative Sometimes my son stopped the film and pointed out bits that didn’t make sense (like Lois throwing the kryptonite spear into s small body of water). And it wasn’t without its moments, but it could have been far better if they weren’t trying to do too much.

  31. @5: fascinating (and not paywalled when I went looking — maybe I just don’t pay enough attention to Eustace Tilley to trigger whatever limit they have). Among other interesting bits, I had no idea GB Shaw was a member of the BIS.

    @14: an interesting list; it would be fascinating to see who these composers point to as influences. (I expect most of them have at least heard of Erich Korngold, a major player in the addition of symphonic accompaniment to adventure stories, but Williams in his musical ideas is following the English line that goes at least as far back as Vaughan Williams.)

    @JJ: IIRC, “or related subjects” was added after the purists complained about Lost Moon (the head title of “Apollo XIII”). (There were also counter-purists, who noted that the movie was not 100% factual and could therefore be called science \fiction/.)

    @Matthew Johnson: I think NESFA was still using an automated Gestetner until some time this millennium; when it wore out it was replaced with laser printers because a member collects used ones, so I’m not sure what we’d have bought.

    @Rose Embolism: swimming is the last thing you want to do in an earthquake or hurricane. You may not \want/ to do it, but it may be the only way to cope with the resulting floods. OTOH, I have the impression that Japan is a lot steeper than the US east coast, so flat flooding (as opposed to fast rivers that you’re either out of or hosed) is probably less common.

  32. I thought the piece by Lisa Granshaw from blastr.com about composers was smarter than I expected, and it convinces me that Michael Giacchino really is the only composer of our time (except possibly for Howard Shore) comparable to Williams, Goldsmith, and Horner.

    HIDDEN FIGURES is not sf, it’s a space movie. But it’s a very good space movie, and Taraji Henson was robbed in the Oscar nominations.

  33. I live in an island nation. And I live on top of a hill, about a hundred miles from the sea… and if I woke up one morning to find the ocean’s waves lapping at my front doorstep, I suspect I’d have more problems than just not being able to swim.

    (Technically, they did teach me swimming when I was in middle school. In practice, I can only swim in one direction, downwards.)

  34. “I saw DAWN OF JUSTICE on disc”

    I misread this (an “eyepo”?) as “I saw DAWN OF JUSTICE on disco”.

    Would a disco version of DAWN OF JUSTICE have been better, or worse?

  35. The other reason the “related subjects” clause gets put in to category definitions is because almost every time Administrators have disqualified a work on subjective, non-technical grounds (i.e. is this work actually SF or fantasy), the outcry is sufficient to prompt the Business Meeting to change the rules in such a way that says, “Don’t do that again; let the members decide what’s eligible on any subjective criteria.”

    Anyone who wonders why Administrators are utterly loathe to make a non-technical subjective ruling on any subject (including such things as whether any particular member’s nominations are “legitimate” or not) has not been paying sufficiently close attention to the years of history on the subject. Hugo Administrators have been rapped on the knuckles more than once for making subjective judgements. (I know; I’m one of those who got the virtual ruler across the hand.)

  36. @ Bruce Arthurs:

    Would a disco version of DAWN OF JUSTICE have been better, or worse?

    A Bollywood edition would have been immensely superior. Especially when Doomsday dances out the death of Superman.

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